This is a rush transcript from "MediaBuzz," May 26, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Julie Roginsky, Eric Bolling and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City and this is "The Five."
If the GOP wants to win back the White House, does it matter whether the nation's biggest celebrities always seem to support Democrats? We know Hollywood's gonna put big money behind Hillary Clinton and this month George Clooney pledged to do whatever he can to help her win and a lot of other celebrities are joining in, like Lena Dunham posting on Instagram that she's with Hillary every step of the way. And Magic Johnson on Twitter declaring she'll be a great president. Clinton's also got the upper hand on women's magazine, she's been on the cover of Vogue many times and Marie Claire's editor in chief says her magazine thrilled the Hillary is in the race. Now Greg, let me ask you. Since we know that Hollywood will always support Democrats, do Republicans need to do they can either to neutralize some of that support or just factor it in to their thinking?
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: They have to -- they have factor in to their thinking. We know they are as lock stock as a robot centipede, which I was find --
GUTFELD: It's so contradictory that, this is an industry that pride itself of being iconic classic or rebellious or edgy. You look at the mood -- just the idea, the romantic film hero always being kind of a motorcycle, but in reality, the actor is really dull and boring and they do exactly what you think they will. This is a long game for conservatives. It's gonna take decades. The media and entertainment history are liberal because liberals tend to gravitate toward that industry the same way conservatives might get into finance or business. However, those guys are generally a political until they realize how liberal the media is. When the media starts painting them as jerks and then all of the sudden your eyes open up and everybody starts become a Republicans later in life, but when once the curtain is pulled back. If this is a game -- this is a game that we have to play. We don't 3want to play it, but we have to play it and we have to -- it's gonna take decades before we infiltrate and take over the culture, but we got to do it.
PERINO: I do think that in the end that they will -- that most of Hollywood, Eric, will support the Democrat, no matter who it is. Despite even things like just now, this just broke by the Associated Press, announcing that Bill Clinton had a company that was a private secret company within Teneo Holdings, called WJC, William J. Clinton, LLC, which basically with hiding money that he was getting -- basically, a pass through that didn't have to show up on her financial disclosure. Like there is nothing that the Clintons could do that could shake the support from Hollywood.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Yeah, Hollywood is behind them 100 percent, but then and there's no surprise. By the way, this LLC, the way it looks to me, Dana, a brief reading through the right through is that when LLC set up so that Bill Clinton could take money from whomever he wanted to for speaking engagements, so they can sign their check however they want. It would hit the LLC and then they would pay him directly. The LLC would pay him and then he could declare whatever money he got from the LLC on his taxes and it looks like the LLC was paying Bill Clinton rather than, maybe a foreign government or a company in the foreign government that we didn't necessarily want to be doing, doing business with. So that will associate the Clinton's with that country or company. So maybe there's probably a lot more there, there than we know right now. Hollywood, back to Hollywood, yeah, of course they gonna support here. These women's magazines -- by the way, 50 million readers --
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Yeah.
BOLLING: A month. That is some number, but it just proves that the Republican has to be that much better because it will always those 50 million will always go to the Democrat and when the Republican that is going to win the White House, whoever that may be, has all these hurdles -- that stuff that liberal buys, baking the cake from Hollywood, baking in the cake from the media as well.
PERINO: Women magazines supporting Hillary, this is not a new phenomenon. I get all the magazines at my apartment, I've been very much, I flip through and have to throw them in the trash halfway through because I think I cannot believe just how bias they are, but then every once in a while you get enough from one of them saying, hey, we need a conservative, would you mind going up against Eva Longoria? I mean, it's kind of bizarre, but I mean Democrats have the women's magazines locked up.
JULIE ROGINSKY, GUEST CO-HOST: Well, because the woman is running is a Democrat, right? I mean (inaudible) you know where the nominees and the Republicans at. I'm not sure whether that will be different. Look, women magazines --
ROGINSKY: I don't know.
ROGINSKY: I will say this, look and I think part of it is the same reason that I'm supporting Hillary Clinton. It's not because of the ethics and it's not because of the AP article. It's because an issues that I care about and not just women's issues, she's more (inaudible) would mean, I expect more with the leadership of this, this women's magazines. Then some like Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush or people like that. So, of course, they'll be more supportive of her or other Democrats primarily because they probably believe as I do, that she's better on issues that they care about than Republicans.
GUILFOYLE: I don't know about that. I think there's a gender bias that exist and like we want Hillary Clinton, we want a Democrat. I don't know that they won't even give, you know, fair analysis and honest analysis to say whether or not someone likes Marco Rubio, whether or not a Carly Fiorina would actually be more suitable and better for the country and women in general. I think they --
PERINO: Well, let's be honest, if Martin O'Malley --
PERINO: If Martin O'Malley, the Democrat, former governor of Maryland, were to become the nominee and Hillary Clinton was out of the picture and Carly Fiorina --
(LAUGHTER) PERINO: Was the Republican nominee, who do you think, Greg, the women's magazines would support? --
GUTFELD: I think what we're seeing here, though, we're seeing a victory of the feminist movement in making abortion the real key issue. And I think what you're saying, Julie, in code is that nobody working for a magazine or liberal woman is ever going to consider a Republican candidate if they are pro life. I think that's kind of what it is.
GUTFELD: But what other issue will there be?
ROGINSKY: Oh, my goodness. Paid family leaves, something that I think a lot of women care about, including people like - including me for that matter, health care. I mean a whole host of issue.
GUTFELD: But, but, but -- ROGINSKY: A whole host of issue that women --
GUTFELD: Republicans do actually care about health care. They just don't care about government-run health care.
ROGINSKY: Say -- well, there is no government-run health care --
GUILFOYLE: They don't like.
PERINO: It's interesting, though because I gonna -- on family leave. So if you follow Steven Hayward at Power Line, which I suggest everyone do. He had an interesting post today about a study look in all the different countries that have enforced family leave in their countries. And in places like Spain, what that has meant over the past 10, 15 years? Women have fewer full-time opportunities, there actually in (inaudible) more problems, we use with more problems and you just go through it. It's just an analytical, scientific viewpoint of the data but, I don't think Eric, that anyone is gonna actually look at the true economics of it. It's just more emotional. And I think Republicans just have to accept that.
BOLLING: So, and Julie, but that's, that's what they are doing. That's Hillary Clinton realizes she has. She has the opportunity to have all those issues, all the culture issues, the gender issues, the gay marriage, divorce, and she can put those front and center because the Republican -- a white male Republican can't compete with -- he shouldn't go there for that. So therefore, they have a 50 million potential voter audience right there and --
ROGINSKY: But, but listen --
BOLLING: They can cater directly -- it's smart, smart politics.
ROGINSKY: But listen to what I just said to you. I firmly believe that the reason I'm supporting Hillary Clinton, again, it was nothing to do with ethics, it has nothing to do with anything else. It's not that I think a woman is better than a man for the office. I don't and it's up to the individual. It's because on the issues --
BOLLING: On paid leaves.
ROGINSKY: Not paid leaves --
BOLLING: That's where you -- you gonna vote for Hillary Clinton --
ROGINSKY: It's no paid leaves. No, it's not paid leaves --
BOLLING: Wait, wait. Bill Clinton may have --
ROGINSKY: I got a hundred other issues.
BOLLING: Speaking engagements --
BOLLING: From countries that are completely --
ROGINSKY: Let me say this --
BOLLING: Completely violated human rights --
PERINO: For women in particular.
BOLLING: For women in particular.
ROGINSKY: He may have.
BOLLING: But you gonna look the other way that --
ROGINSKY: First of all --
BOLLING: For paid leave?
ROGINSKY: First of all -- wait a second, I'm really look the other way on that if it's true, which by the way, there's no evidence of that, so let's not describe --
BOLLING: But we know --
ROGINSKY: All of them.
BOLLING: No, no, no. It's not --
ROGINSKY: But, but -- all right.
BOLLING: It's not even a question --
ROGINSKY: Let me answer your question, though.
BOLLING: His taken -- they've done speeches in countries --
ROGINSKY: Let me --
BOLLING: That have violated --
ROGINSKY: Let me --
BOLLING: Human rights and women's rights.
ROGINSKY: Fine, fine, you know what?
BOLLING: Best of it (ph).
ROGINSKY: I'm voting for somebody who I think is going to my life better and the lives of my friends better, and to that extent, I think she's a better candidate versus the other people running on the Republican side. You obviously don't agree. You obviously think of Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush or whoever is gonna make your life better and Hillary Clinton.
BOLLING: I don't know about that.
ROGINSKY: That's why you are supporting him.
BOLLING: I don't know that and declare that.
(CROSSTALK) ROGINSKY: That's why you're supporting him.
BOLLING: I don't know that and declare that --
GUILFOYLE: Why not vote and support somebody that cares about men's lives, too, not just women?
PERINO: Men's lives too.
ROGINSKY: I think, I think, I think she's better -- I think she's better on issues about everybody.
BOLLING: I care about, I care about smaller government. I care about pure taxes, and I care about less regulation and a lot in the free market to be free and really prosper --
ROGINSKY: And that's why?
BOLLING: Because, because that's the only way when we grow, we prosper. That's how - that makes lives of people better at every level of the income spectrum, including the bottom.
ROGINSKY: But that's why you're supporting not Hillary Clinton, right?
BOLLING: That's right.
ROGINSKY: That's why you are supporting somebody else. You and I disagree on that and that's why I'm supporting her, not because she's a woman.
PERINO: That use -- this is a serious question, and it doesn't bother you on like on the main issues that she has already, in like a month to change her position on crime, immigration, trade, like a lot of economic --
ROGINSKY: Is she --
PERINO: Like I get supporting (inaudible) bank, which is against like was she thought about on trade, I mean, you're just comfortable with all that?
ROGINSKY: I -- listen, if she my ideal candidate? Is this the person that I would say, this is the ultimate best person. You got to look at it, not in a vacuum. You got to look at it from the perspective of who she running against. And I truly don't think that the people that she is running against are gonna be better for the country. That's my point of view on that.
GUTFELD: The one thing that GOP has to do is they, they have to define who they are not just who they're up against. And I think what we're hear is like what could unify a country rather than divide people by gender or orientation or race, and that is focusing on protecting the freedoms that allow us to live our lives safely and free and allow to whoever we want to marry and whatever we want to do by focusing on national security. The world a mess and the Republican Party will offer you a real honest to God force field against the dangers around the world. We don't care who you sleep with anymore. We don't care what you smoke in the privacy of your own home. We care that you're safe and prosperous. That raises above all the gender, and all the race and all of that by national security is the only way to go for the repubs.
ROGINSKY: But Greg, you have an interesting you say that because the Gallup Poll that just came out, 60 percent, 60 percent that crosses this party lines support same-sex marriage. As a liberal --
BOLLING: Yeah, that's true.
PERINO: It was actually just said.
GUILFOYLE: You talk about --
GUILFOYLE: With this issue.
ROGINSKY: And what I don't -- it's not.
GUILFOYLE: They seem to --
ROGINSKY: What I don't --
ROGINSKY: It's not. But if you look at to some Republican candidates out there, to them it is a big issue --
GUILFOYLE: Oh, I don't.
GUTFELD: And that's exactly -- and I agree with you.
ROGINSKY: And that's a mistake for them.
GUTFELD: Did you --
ROGINSKY: But -- yeah.
GUTFELD: You got to choose your battles. You have to understand that time has moved on and you don't go around defending the Duggar family when you got bigger issues going on.
ROGINSKY: I agree. But you do have Republican candidates who are out there, doing that.
ROGINSKY: And you actually ask me why supporting Hillary Clinton --
GUTFELD: But we also have --
ROGINSKY: I don't want those jokers in the White House.
GUTFELD: We also have the Republican candidates --
BOLLING: And you also have Republican candidates that, that are that -- as Greg points out, don't care who you sleep for, or don't care what you smell.
ROGINSKY: Who are they?
BOLLING: Rand Paul is one of them.
ROGINSKY: Rand Paul support same-sex marriage? Does he?
GUTFELD: I don't think he does, which is weird.
BOLLING: I'm not sure if he supports it or --
ROGINSKY: I don't know.
BOLLING: Doesn't, hasn't come out for against --
ROGINSKY: Well --
PERINO: Let me just tell you. There's one other thing that -- there's a celebrity piece in Hollywood, Kimberly, I'll give you the last word on this. Also, even down to music, so at big events when you have a rally and you want to get the crowd going, you actually, as a Republican, have to really think hard about who, which band you're going to play because if you play Maroon Five, they all call up and say don't ever use my songs again.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah, that's true.
PERINO: So you have to think about that too. GUILFOYLE: Yeah, they don't -- they don't want to be connected, they don't want to be associated, so you have to -- you know, get like 12 permission letters to be able to use someone's song otherwise, you gonna run a foul and you get a bad news story which you don't want. It's just ridiculous. But if people are equip with themselves with the facts, and prepared and studied --
PERINO: That's a noble theory.
GUTFELD: That's another victory, though, for the left because what they're doing is they, they have connected the Republican Party to the sins of the past. So you have musicians who do not want to be embarrassed by making that linkage. They don't want to be embarrassed at a cocktail party, so they don't want their music played because to them the Republican Party is represented -- represents things of the past that are embarrassing to them.
PERINO: And it won't hurt their brand.
GUTFELD: It won't hurt their brand.
GUILFOYLE: just to play Dana Perino music, country music.
GUILFOYLE: And to work --
GUTFELD: That's why they play country music.
ROGINSKY: Or kid rock.
PERINO: And that's more fun.
PERINO: All right, next, Iraq just launched the major offensive to take back control of the Anbar province from ISIS, but a conflicting assessment from the Pentagon. And later, Kimberly's new book, Making the Case, and it is out today in some kind of special piece to show you that features what inside. Trust me, you're gonna want to stay tune for that. But before we go, we want to get the latest on those deadly floods in Texas. At least 30 people remain accounted for. Janice Dean is live at the Fox Weather center, Janice.
JANICE DEAN, FOX NEWS SENIOR METEOROLOGIST: Hi, Dana, not only the flooding but the threat of severe weather including tornado this evening for North Central Texas. We have a tornado warning just north of Breckenridge, Texas, Doppler radar indicating some strong rotation. And on top of that, the historic floods that we've seen across Texas and Oklahoma and some cases over 18 inches of rainfall for Oklahoma City that is a record for any month, any calendar month. And then we saw over 11 inches of rainfall in and around the Houston area, the devastation is epic in this region where we have seen close to a foot of rainfall, as you can see not just Texas, but parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma and Nebraska into devastating floods. Some of the video that we saw earlier on today is incredible with roads just completely covered in water, people stranded and 30 people are still missing. We'll have more on this as The Five continues.
BOLLING: Iraqi forces (inaudible) they launched a major military operation to retake Ramadi and the Anbar province from ISIS, but the Pentagon says they've just begun shaping operations. Over the weekend, Defense Secretary Ashton Carter accused the country of giving up the fight, angering Iraq's prime minister.
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ASHTON CARTER, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: The Iraqi forces just showed no will to fight. They were not outnumbered. In fact, they vastly outnumbered the opposing force, and yet they failed to fight.
Air strikes are effective, but neither they nor really anything we do can substitute for the Iraqi forces will to fight. We can't make Iraq run as a decent place for people to live. We can't sustain the victory, only the Iraqis can do that.
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BOLLING: Well, the White house backed him up today -- sort of.
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JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: What Secretary Carter said is consistent with the analysis that he received from those who are on the ground who are looking at the situation and we are pleased to see today that the Iraqi government announced the beginning of the mission to retake Ramadi and to drive ISIL out of Anbar province. I think that is a clear indication of the will of the Iraqi security forces to fight.
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BOLLING: All right. So K.G., Ashton Carter finally saying, probably what the Pentagon is known and maybe what we've been talking about for a long time that the Iraqi forces -- they are not ready or able to fight back ISIS.
GUILFOYLE: Well, I don't know if that is an accurate assessment. I mean, that's his statement about it. But I mean I also believe people who are in theater, that have a clear understanding of what the mission goal is there to understand what we need to accomplish. Maybe perhaps, that we left them ill equipped to be able to complete a mission that they do have the heart and desire. I don't think they want their country torn apart. They've been through so much war already. I'm quite certain that the Iraqi people in their heart want to be free and want to rid their country of this plague sent by the devil. So what could we have done better to be able to make sure that they could accomplish the goal, the goal that so many Americans gave their life trying to help them win?
BOLLING: Dana, did you hear anything in Ashton Carter's comments that gave you pause? At least --
BOLLING: Made you alarmed about what the future in Iraq is?
PERINO: Several things.
BOLLING: Poor Iraq.
PERINO: One, I disagree. I don't think that the Pentagon has believed that they are unwilling to fight. At least that is not been true -- that was true in 2007 and 2008 when they joined the United States to do the surge and actually, hand over what President Obama said was a stable Iraq and which is why he said now we can leave. What happened when they left? OK. So there's a problem. We've already left them once. Now we come back and say, oh, we'll try to help you now because it's in our national interest for them to be successful, but we don't send any bullets to the Kurds or to the Sunni tribesmen, we send them with the Baghdad, so they can have the equipment. And then we say we have to insult them in front of the world and say, "They don't have the will to fight." How about we don't have the will to get them what they need --
GUILFOYLE: Or complete the job.
PERINO: And I actually think that Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, I respect him a lot and I think that he would be very well served by returning -- bringing back something like an Admiral Kirby who could remind him that you have several audiences when you're speaking. And the Prime Minister of Iraq -- (inaudible) President Obama said is someone that we can work with? And they ought to do that and not trying to undermine him, and now they're trying to back pedal. And if they do think that the Iraqis are not willing to fight and if we are not willing to help them win, then President Obama owes the American people an explanation for that and it just gonna tells us, how does he hand over a stable Middle East to the next president, whoever that might be?
GUILFOYLE: Or is he even concerned about doing that? Because actions speak louder than words and so far it gonna appear so.
BOLLING: Can I offer you get another alternative?
GUILFOYLE: Some people go fight but you won't even give them the weapons to do so --
BOLLING: And maybe --
GUILFOYLE: And they are begging like dog, is he seems to get.
BOLLING: Is it, is it possible, Greg, that Ashton Carter is maybe looking, hey, let's find -- redefine the strategy and maybe this is something like Dana points out, arm the Kurds, arm the tribes and maybe that's the way to win back Iraq.
GUTFELD: Maybe. I go back to what the cause this had problem from the beginning, why -- and we talked about this so many times. Why did we telegraph our exit? Why did we give the -- why did we give our exit date? It's like telling everybody on Facebook that you're going on vacation and telling --
GUILFOYLE: Come use my house.
GUTFELD: All these high school kids --
GUTFELD: Where the key is. It's under the mat. That's exactly what happened with ISIS. We said we were going, we've going and then they knew that they had been basically abandoned. This is actually -- when you see what's coming out of these countries, it's worth the fight. This is worth the fight. I mean, if you felt it was worth fighting the Nazis, how is this any less? You want to talk about numbers?
BOLLING: But --
GUILFOYLE: Yeah, they does, they killed --
GUILFOYLE: All right.
GUTFELD: But give them time. Give them time.
BOLLING: But how do you fight -- how do you, how do you win this fight? Now we want one more -- GUTFELD: And you, and you actually -- and you get, you get the guys in there --
GUILFOYLE: Special Forces.
GUTFELD: You know what they're doing. You know what they're doing.
ROGINSKY: All right. So --
BOLLING: So that --
GUTFELD: I know it's crazy you gonna say -- do all, this is -- we don't want to risk our troops. But you know what? We're the only...
ROGINSKY: No. GUTFELD: Who can do it.
ROGINSKY: No, no, no. I thought you know what I'm saying. I'm saying that Iraq, from the beginning, was a manufactured country that has a ton of sectarian problem that predated our entry to Iraq by decades, by centuries actually. Really, I mean. And so you're talking about a country that is completely polarized. Sunni, Shia, Kurds, nobody is getting along with anybody else. And what are we fighting for, to empower Iran? Because guess who (inaudible) --
GUTFELD: I just want to stop --
ROGINSKY: Guess who, guess who --
GUTFELD: Probably women being raped.
GUTFELD: That will be a --
ROGINSKY: But Greg, but Greg --
GUILFOYLE: And beheaded.
ROGINSKY: When those people stop being raped and beheaded, let's even say that you get rid of that, threat, that Sunni threat. Who do you replace it with? An Iranian influence, Shia government, you're empowering the Iranian and that's exactly what we did --
GUILFOYLE: Because they step -- Julie --
GUILFOYLE: That they step in because we left the big vacuum --
ROGINSKY: They stepped in the day that we --
GUILFOYLE: Hands off.
ROGINSKY: The day that we, the day that we invaded Iraq and got rid of Saddam Hussein, we empowered the Iranians. And that has nothing to do with Barack Obama.
BOLLING: Is anyone else -- we got to go. We don't have a lot of time, quick around the table. Are you not concerned about what the Iraqi prime minister of his close affinity in dealing with the Iranians? Are you not worried about that?
PERINO: I think it's something to worry about. However, I think that al- Baghdadi who President Obama said this is a person that we can work with. He would rather work with the Americans. But if the Americans aren't going to show up and show up fully, then you got to think about OK, how -- what's the future of my country?
ROGINSKY: But this is like Vietnam to me. This is the same argument we had in Vietnam that we have to be in there. We have to stay in there and the reality is -- according to that, it will be in Vietnam today. I mean, 40 years later, this continues --
GUTFELD: Well, we say this is country after we won wars.
GUILFOYLE: Right. To stabilize the region, and it all goes back to an incomplete status of forces agreement that basically this was set up to fail by this administration. They need to look at --
PERINO: Who would have thought on South Korea to be -- 60 years later, be able to host the Olympic Games in a free and democratic country.
PERINO: Because we stayed.
BOLLING: We must leave right now. When we come back --
PERINO: That's what it is.
BOLLING: Something very special for you on The Five. You may learn something about Kimberly, you never knew before and a lot more. Stay tuned.
GUILFOYLE: And a lot more.
GUILFOYLE: This song. Today is a very special day for me because my new book is finally out. It's called Making the Case: How to be your own best advocate. It's available in bookstores, Amazon and HarperCollins.com. It is career advice, like advice and traces my journey to becoming a prosecutor, first lady of San Francisco and now a host on Fox News. Here is a look at more of what's inside.
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GUILFOYLE: When I was a deputy district attorney of Los Angeles in the 1990s, I had a nickname, the hurricane. Like the late boxer, Ruben "Hurricane" Carter, he fought hard for his right, inside and outside the ring. I have always been a fighter. That was my job to be a champion for other people's right. Now I'm making the case, as my hope to help readers become champion for themselves, to be their own best advocate.
I was 11 and my brother was 8 years old when my mother Mercedes Gerena Guilfoyle passed away after a long and brave battle with leukemia. She was only 37 years old. Throughout her illness, I remember making a case with God, please help her live. I believe now that God did answer my prayers because she still lives on with me and she shaped me into who I am today. My father, Tony, was the greatest influence in my life. He passed away thanksgiving night in 2008. He was a single parent after my mother died and he did the most incredible job, teaching my brother and I to do our best. Admit if we made a mistake, and if we did, try again.
(on camera): I remember Dad used to send me to my room to build my case. He told me to think hard about what I wanted and go after it. So I did. And I still do today.
(voice-over): I knew I wanted to be a lawyer from the time I was a little girl. I worked several jobs to pay for law school, including modeling, which taught me about having a presence and how to focus on being my best self.
After graduation, I knew the odds were against me. I was a female pursuing work in a highly-competitive, male-dominated field. But just a few years later I became deputy D.A. in L.A. and then assistant D.A. in San Francisco. My most well-known case there was a 2001 dog mauling trial. My colleague, Jim Hammer, and I successfully prosecuted Robert Noel and Marjorie Knoller for the death of 33-year-old lacrosse coach Diane Whipple. Because I believed in the case, the jury trusted me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Marjorie Knoller, guilty. Robert Noel, guilty.
GUILFOYLE: Serving as first lady of San Francisco was one of the greatest honors and privileges of my life. My first husband, Gavin Newsom, became governor in 2004 and now is lieutenant governor in California. I loved working alongside him with children, community groups and welcoming heads of state and other dignitaries, including the royals, like Prince Charles and Camilla. Although Gavin and I divorced, we remain very close today.
During that time, I made my transition from the courtroom to the TV studio, serving as a legal analyst on a variety of networks. I'd eventually become a host on Court TV. And then in 2006 I found my second home. I joined FOX News, hosting a show called "The Lineup."
And since 2011, I have been a proud co-host of "The Five"...
(on camera): It's 5 p.m. in New York City, and this is "The Five".
(voice-over): ... where I now spend every day making the case.
(on camera): Weakened the position for other hostages, legitimate innocents, like Weinstein.
JUAN WILLIAMS, GUEST CO-HOST: Are they...
GUILFOYLE: I'm not stopping. I'm just getting started.
Also making a lot of memories.
PERINO: On your mark, get set, go!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There you go.
GUILFOYLE: Times Square. We're getting along.
WILLIAMS: What's going on here?
(voice-over): The greatest joy of my life is my beautiful 8-year-old son, Ronan, whose dad is a wonderful man named Eric Villency. Eric and I divorced, but we remain the best of friends.
As Ronan gets older I try to encourage him to ask me for anything, as long as he's prepared to build a solid case for it.
(on camera): With this book I'm hoping to help others take charge of their own destiny, stand up for their ideas, speak up on their own behalf. And when they've mastered advocating for themselves, pay those blessings forward. I am so very thankful for all of mine.
GUILFOYLE: And a special thank you to Susan Wertheim (ph), who put together that beautiful package, just like she did for Dana.
PERINO: Yes. That was great. It's fun when you see these packages, because people get to know you. Like, they've seen you on FOX for years, but they might not have known all those things.
It was interesting to look at the trial, the dog mauling trial. Because I thought, "Oh, I remember seeing you there," but obviously, I know you here. But that was a really great package and a beautiful -- and I know it's not easy to talk about your mom, but I think you did them both very proud.
GUILFOYLE: Thank you.
GUTFELD: I read the book. I'm just kind of surprised you left out all the stuff about us.
GUILFOYLE: You mean the whole chapter about our relationship?
GUTFELD: We lived together in Texas for four years, and you act like it never happened.
BOLLING: It's nonfiction, Greg.
GUILFOYLE: Exactly. How could I forget that? Memorable, wasn't it? Anyway...
BOLLING: So K.G., your book is how to be your own best advocate. I'm going to advocate for you right now. I read the book and I made sticky notes.
PERINO: That's like two books in a month for you.
BOLLING: With the beginning part, heartwarming part about talking about losing your mom and then your young life, bringing up Anthony, helping to raise Anthony, and your dad, amazing.
The part I enjoyed -- one of the parts I liked, when you talk about being your own best advocate, but it doesn't stop when you get the job. You have to continue to do that. Being prepared all the time after you get the job.
GUILFOYLE: You've got to earn it every day.
BOLLING: Don't stop. And towards the end, some great stuff about being a team, teamwork with "The Five." And then one thing that you're really...
GUILFOYLE: Don't give away the whole book.
PERINO: It's like Cliff Notes.
BOLLING: No, no. You talk about making -- having a lot of friends and keeping them close to you. And that's something you've always done. I notice if you're around Kimberly before the show, after the show, the phone is always ringing. You're always talking to people. You network better than anyone I know.
ROGINSKY: I think it's more than networking. You are an amazing friend. You've helped -- I mean, just the stuff that you proactively -- I don't even have to ask you. You'll always recommend stuff; you'll always give me advice. You're an amazing friend.
But what's amazing to me, actually, is I didn't realize -- I was watching that segment -- how young you were, how quickly you got to the top of the legal profession at a really young age. I mean, right out of law school, right?
GUTFELD: You were like 12?
ROGINSKY: That's amazing.
GUILFOYLE: But you have to be willing to do anything to help. I mean, put me in at D.A.'s office. I'll get everybody's lunch. I'll make photocopies, whatever I could do to get the internship to do a bunch of jobs. I wanted the opportunity. I wanted the chance.
ROGINSKY: Yes. What's incredible here is this chapter here about how you basically were let go from the D.A.'s office, and got hired because you were the last one in and a new D.A. came in. And you had the temerity, which I think is amazing, to go and say, "I'll be back."
GUILFOYLE: I'll be back.
ROGINSKY: And to say that. And I think a lot of young women don't have that kind of confidence.
GUILFOYLE: I got into another office, the L.A. D.A.'s office, very competitive, and they were only hiring the class of interns that had worked very hard on the O.J. Simpson case. I was the only one hired that wasn't an intern from L.A. D.A., went in, learned; I think became an even better prosecutor, better trial attorney, trying cases downtown in the criminal courts building and some really impoverished neighborhoods. And then made my way back to San Francisco. I vowed I would return. And I, in fact, did.
PERINO: Can I mention one thing?
PERINO: I just think that there's many books of advice out there. One of the reasons to pick this one up is that your chapter on money and relationships, it's unique. I think there's not enough books about this. But you speak in a way that says, OK, it's very -- I could follow this along. Like make a list of your ongoing expenses. Do things together. And then also how to deal with it if a marriage ends. I thought that was probably some of the best advice in here that I read on that.
GUTFELD: The pictures are amazing.
BOLLING: Where can we find it?
GUILFOYLE: So you can find the book on Amazon.com, HarperCollins.com and in all of your book stores. And I would certainly appreciate it. And I hope it's helpful. And it took, you know, courage to write this. There's a lot of things that necessarily I didn't want to, you know, ordinarily share, talk about emotional things. But if it helps anybody, one person, then I feel very happy.
GUTFELD: You want to help more than one person.
GUILFOYLE: Well, you actually will need a lot of help, so you should read it twice.
GUTFELD: ... you can only help one person.
GUILFOYLE: But it's true.
ROGINSKY: One person is...
GUTFELD: Sell a million books.
GUILFOYLE: Well, you know what? One person is worth it. One person can change the world.
Ahead, what is wrong with this picture of environmental protesters floating in kayaks around an oil rig? A lot of things, and Greg's going to tell us when "The Five" returns. Stay with us.
GUTFELD: Last week in Seattle -- an actual place -- kayaks swarmed an off- shore oil rig in protest. The protesters, floating more on hypocrisy than water, likely forgot that kayaks are often made with petroleum. Or that the boats were trucked to the stores, not towed by ox, although that would have been fun. A local bike seller there voiced support, also forgetting that his wheels weren't shipped on the backs of trained elephants.
This hypocrisy, the greater good's calling card, masks the aim to dismantle capitalism. An aim that would freak out sympathetic business owners if they only knew.
But consider the original goals of the green movement, which is to leave Earth in the same condition for future generations. It's nice. Yet they scarred the landscape with ugly windmills like knife wounds on the Mona Lisa. Whoever starts a windmill removal business will make billions. Once we finally admit how quixotic this renewable fuel really is. Figure out how to remove them and you'll have a yacht just like Al Gore.
Look at Germany, who boasts getting some energy from these windmills, which then forces them to leech off the French for real energy.
Comically, the green movement talks of keeping the planet pristine, to hand over the planet to the not-yet born, a contract between two parties, the living and the not yet here.
This is the ultimate hypocrisy. I'm sure if you could survey the unborn they would prefer the chance for life over the options of solar power.
I'll go to you, Julie, because you tend to smirk at that entire thing. I saw that.
ROGINSKY: I always smirk. Smirking the whole time.
GUTFELD: Why is offshore drilling somehow worse than puncturing hillsides with a failed renewable energy source?
ROGINSKY: I don't think it's failed. Solar is not. Wind and solar aren't failed.
GUTFELD: Where are you getting the facts?
ROGINSKY: I get the facts...
GUTFELD: Silly Facts...
ROGINSKY: ... from the solar, wind...
GUTFELD: ... Institute?
ROGINSKY: From the solar, wind energy production company.
GUTFELD: You're a shill.
ROGINSKY: I'm a shill. I'm a shill for them. Look, I...
GUILFOYLE: Do you work for them?
ROGINSKY: I do work for them. I do. Every penny I have is made by solar putting wind mills on my property, my vast property.
GUTFELD: My windmill is actually powered by solar panels.
PERINO: I doubt it.
GUTFELD: Which is really weird.
PERINO: Is that why it stands still?
GUTFELD: Exactly. Makes great shade. Where are we?
ROGINSKY: My favorite story.
GUILFOYLE: It is the best story ever. I wish we could keep doing it. It's like Groundhog Day.
GUTFELD: Like Solyndra?
GUILFOYLE: Solyndra and the government waste and the cronyism. It's one of the prime examples of what's wrong with this administration and your choice (ph).
ROGINSKY: Didn't we give a lot of subsidies to oil companies, too?
ROGINSKY: Like Solyndra? We never did?
BOLLING: Almost no subsidies.
GUILFOYLE: His other favorite subject.
BOLLING: Tax breaks aren't subsidies.
PERINO: Oh, no.
BOLLING: Big difference.
ROGINSKY: Oh, OK.
BOLLING: You make your own money, and the government takes it. And you say you can keep more of your own money. That's not -- that's not...
ROGINSKY: So only they get tax breaks, but other people don't get tax breaks? Oil companies need them?
BOLLING: I'm for no tax breaks.
BOLLING: How is that?
ROGINSKY: Well, why don't we agree -- great. Why don't we agree that...
BOLLING: For anybody. And also no green energy, no subsidies and all that.
GUILFOYLE: He's for the fair tax and for the free market. Yes.
BOLLING: You know what the problem with Seattle? Seattle is jealous, is what's going on here. Canada has oil. Alaska has oil. Oil is shipped down to California where jobs are created to distribute the oil all over the place. There's fracking in the Midwest. There's Texas. Seattle has basically nothing.
BOLLING: They have water. They have rain.
So they're mad and they become probably one of the -- probably the most liberal -- Seattle has probably become the post liberal city in America. They want the higher -- minimum wages to be $15 an hour. They're complaining about every single green initiative they could possibly get their hands on. I don't know. If you're liberal, just go to Seattle.
GUTFELD: Huge fan of "Frasier." What a delightful show, Dana. Wasn't that a delightful show? It was a great show. Best thing that ever came out of Seattle.
PERINO: Niles Crane.
GUTFELD: Besides Seattle Slew. Hey, did that come from Seattle?
GUTFELD: I have no idea.
ROGINSKY: What about Nirvana?
GUILFOYLE: Yes, Nirvana. Kurt Cobain.
GUTFELD: I would be all for protecting -- I would support the protesters if they made a pledge that they rejected everything that was around them that was any way affected by fossil fuel.
PERINO: I think it's funny that they're in the kayaks. Because where do you get plastics from?
GUTFELD: Yes, yes.
PERINO: Hydrochemicals. I'm asking you something. In that picture, is that a weekday?
GUTFELD: That's a good question.
PERINO: I mean, there's a lot of people there on a weekday protesting the oil rig.
GUTFELD: Yes, that's a great point. I wish I had looked that up earlier, but I've -- you know, I've been very busy.
PERINO: Well, I'm sure you have. Very, very important. I don't think it actually said in the facts.
GUTFELD: It was not on a weekday.
PERINO: OK, well...
GUTFELD: So we can't demonize them on that. We can't say they're a bunch of unemployed...
PERINO: I will give them points for colors. It was a very colorful protests.
GUTFELD: It is, it is. That's what really matter.
PERINO: It's a great photograph.
GUILFOYLE: United colors of Benetton.
GUTFELD: Get out of here.
GUILFOYLE: Your block is over.
GUTFELD: It is and you're over.
GUILFOYLE: No, I'm not. I'm just starting.
GUTFELD: Let's talk about your book.
GUTFELD: Next, it was deadly Memorial Day weekend in Chicago and also here in New York. Julie has the details on the record-breaking violence when "The Five" returns.
ROGINSKY: Many cities see an uptick in violent crime over Memorial Day weekend, but this one was especially bloody in some of America's largest ones. In Chicago, 12 people were killed and more than 50 shot. And in Baltimore, at least nine -- nine were killed and at least 27 shot. The city's have seen a huge spike in violence since the Freddie Gray riots.
Here's what the mayor and police commissioner have to say.
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MAYOR STEPHANIE RAWLINGS-BLAKE, BALTIMORE: It is disheartening that we're seeing such an increase in violence, especially when you think about the progress that we've made. We've come too far to have this type of setback.
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER KEVIN DAVIS, BALTIMORE POLICE: Law enforcement, public safety and the community will persevere over this small number of bad guys carrying guns, pulling triggers, killing people in our community.
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ROGINSKY: So, we have about three minutes to figure out the world's ills here. But, you know, I have to say, as a liberal, I am disappointed that my side doesn't talk as much as I feel like we should. Not just about police brutality against -- against minorities, but also the fact that people living in some of these inner cities are dying at rates that are just unacceptable. What we all have to do and what our responsibilities are to affect change.
So Greg, I mean, you know, we've talked about this quite a bit.
ROGINSKY: But it seems to me that people on the inside, too, have to do something. And it's not just saying that we need a better family structure or we need more welfare programs. But there needs to be a concerted effort. Almost like a national debate about this.
GUTFELD: I -- I agree. I think this is another area where politics as sport has created a really, really, really thick divide. And it's based -- it's based on past sins.
Blacks, we know, poorly treated for centuries, and part of what we're seeing now, I believe, are the consequences of that. However, the policies that we introduced in the past 40 to 50 years to correct such injustices have been the wrong ones. And we have to admit that these were wrong. So everybody is complicit in this.
So the solution -- my idea of a solution -- is the left should let the right in. In these cities, invite black conservatives to the table. If it fails, how much worse could it be? If they screw up, how much worse could it be than all of -- all of these murders? It can't get worse than this. So invite black conservatives in. Sit down at the table and just break bread for once instead of this divisiveness.
PERINO: I was going to say when you have this type of murders, that was actually happening in your own neighborhood, you have to think about that. So Baltimore is sort of far away from me here. Chicago is far away. I don't have to live there. But it could happen right here. It could happen in any of our neighborhoods. So we do have a vested interest in trying to help solve it.
ROGINSKY: Yes. Eric.
BOLLING: We -- what did you expect would happen? I mean, when you tell the police to stand down when there's rioting going on, when you're pointing the finger at cops every time someone is shot, blaming a cop, it's their fault, of course, you're going to demoralize the police force, and crime is going to go up.
BOLLING: It's going to happen in Baltimore. It's going to happen in Cleveland. It's going to happen in New York, and it's going to happen everywhere where you're pointing fingers at cops. That's -- that's...
GUILFOYLE: Unfortunately, then, it's going to have to course correct. But look at the lives that will be lost in the interim because of this failed policy, because people want to be more interested in P.C. ideology instead of safety and rebuilding communities together.
ROGINSKY: All right. On that note, "One More Thing" is up next.
PERINO: It's time now for "One More Thing" -- Eric.
BOLLING: OK. So Volvo was doing a demonstration for reporters, I understand, of a self-driving, self-parking car. Didn't go so well. Watch.
PERINO: Oh, no.
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(CAR DRIVES FORWARD AND HITS PEDESTRIAN)
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PERINO: Is that real?
BOLLING: That was a reporter. That was real. And I understand everyone's OK.
GUILFOYLE: Why are you smiling?
PERINO: Whoa! Wow. What's wrong with you?
BOLLING: Look. Technology...
GUILFOYLE: Let me try something. People that drive Volvos sometimes, it's -- you better watch out.
PERINO: All right. Greg.
GUTFELD: All right. It's time for...
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GUTFELD: "What the Heck is That?"
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GUILFOYLE: OK. That's new.
GUTFELD: Well, it was based on a medical condition. But now, I want you to guess what this is. Take a look, America. Kimberly, what do you think that is?
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(VIDEO OF A PORCUPINE)
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GUILFOYLE: Not Alec Baldwin again, is it? Is it Jeremy Piven?
GUTFELD: No, they found him in Alec Baldwin and had three surgeries to remove him from his colon.
GUTFELD: Julie, do you know what that is?
ROGINSKY: Looks like my dog but it's not.
GUTFELD: It's not. Eric.
GUTFELD: An otter? Perhaps.
GUTFELD: Utterly wrong. Dana.
PERINO: Is it a little bear?
GUTFELD: No, it's not a little bear. It's a porcupet.
GUILFOYLE: I just said porcupine. Oh, pet.
GUTFELD: Porcupet. It's a baby porcupine.
GUILFOYLE: I think I should get credit.
GUTFELD: All right, you get credit. "Oh, I have a new book."
PERINO: Partial -- partial credit to K.G. for that answer.
All right. I'm going to tell you something.
GUILFOYLE: I get it that it's a porcupet.
PERINO: Coming into an election year, you're going to be asked if you're interested in politics. People are going to come to you and ask you to support a candidate. If you support a candidate keep this in mind.
Former Virginia attorney general Ken Cuccinelli just won a big lawsuit against a PAC. He ran for governor of Virginia. This PAC said that they were going to support him. They raised a whole bunch of money, did not give any of it to his campaign. And he actually won a lawsuit against them. So if you're going to invest in a campaign, make sure you know where that money is going. Don't give it to a fake PAC. OK?
GUILFOYLE: Wow. Fake PAC alert.
OK. So I have a very touching "One More Thing." And this is a photo of a young Marine who is praying with his bride-to-be. They didn't want to see each other before the wedding, so they put their hands around the corner like this and they prayed out loud. They're very emotional. This went viral. And it's U.S. Marine Corporal Caleb Earwood and his bride, Maggie, and their wedding ceremony was in Asheville, North Carolina, on Saturday. Very sweet.
PERINO: Julie, can you go fast?
ROGINSKY: I can. So tomorrow I won't be here, but it is my 3-year-old son, Zach's, birthday. That's a picture of him when he was born.
GUILFOYLE: Happy birthday, Zach.
ROGINSKY: So I want to wish him a really happy birthday. He's the best. I love him. And that's it. Happy birthday.
GUILFOYLE: Not a porcupine.
ROGINSKY: He's not a porcupine.
PERINO: "Special Report" is next.
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