Scott Brown: Congress needs to apply more pressure on Iran

Why the U.S. needs to ramp up the sanctions


This is a rush transcript from "Your World," April 1, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

NEIL CAVUTO, HOST: To former Massachusetts Republican Senator Scott Brown, who says, forget the talks, just ramp up sanctions now.

Well, Scott, they're not doing that and indications are that come hell or high water, they're going to cobble together something. You think it's going to be bad, regardless?

SCOTT BROWN, R-FORMER U.S. SENATOR: Well, Neil, unfortunately, this is not an April Fool's joke.

And what's going to happen -- and if I'm wrong, I would like an opportunity to come on your show in the future to apologize to the president and the administration.

He's going to do a deal, regardless of anything else. He has no legacy when it comes to foreign policy. So he wants a deal. And he's going to get a deal and he's going to bring it back to Congress, and he is going to ask for their consent through advise and consent. And he will say, hey, by the way, it's not a perfect deal, but it's the best we could do. And if you don't approve it, then it's up to you, because we may escalate our military efforts, we may get in more conflict and, God forbid, we may even have a war with Iran. And if that happens, GOP, that's on you, not me.

That's what's going to happen. So here is the real issue. Right now, I believe that the Iranian negotiators are running circles around the administration and Secretary Kerry, in that, we set deadlines. They blow by the deadlines. They're dragging their feet. We give them another deadline. We look good, they look masterful.

So there are so many things that need to be done before a deal is struck, and I would like -- we will continue on. But I have a list that I think is a no-brainer. And if they do this, then I think there will be a lot of consent in Congress for, you know, some type of deal with Iran.

CAVUTO: All right. Well, what will happen is, they won't consent Congress on anything. The way this is apparently being fast-tracked is that it goes right to the U.N. if they cobble together something, bad, good, whatever. That then is Iran's interests because Iran wants these sanctions lifted. You say quite the opposite should happen, right?

BROWN: Absolutely. Congress has an affirmative obligation to play a role for and representing the American people.

This is what should happen. First of all, Iran needs to recognize publicly that Israel has the right to not only exist, but to thrive in that part of the world. They need to basically reject terror and terrorism and stop funding terrorist groups around the world. They need to immediately stop enrichment. They need to immediately destroy any nuclear materials that they have. They don't need a plutonium reactor.

They can have a peaceful -- peaceful power reactor without it being plutonium. It's completely unnecessary. You need to have full disclosure of what the military is doing when it comes to the nuclear program in Iran. That's not happening. The appropriate agencies are not being -- they're not being given the appropriate answers.

And you also need to make sure that anything that's done needs to go through Congress, as I said. I mean, those are just basic factors that need to be addressed before any type of deal. And, quite frankly, they haven't done it. You want to talk about centrifuges. They want to reduce it to 6,500. It should be less than 1,000. If they really want to be world partners and not world antagonists, then they need to do these basic things before any deal can be considered.

CAVUTO: You know, a lot of times I wonder, Senator, whether they already have all of this stuff, and if this is just, you know, theater.

BROWN: Yes, Neil, I don't know. If they had it all -- I mean, they're not dealing with the big issues.


BROWN: And the big issues is the recognition that Israel can exist, that eliminating and destroying, not giving to Russia, not holding on to these nuclear materials. I mean, that's a joke.

CAVUTO: Right.

BROWN: You need to destroy them. You need to have verification that they have been destroyed. You need to also make sure that they don't continue to export terrorism around the region and the world by supporting groups that basically are preying on their weak neighbors.

I don't trust Iran. The president, unfortunately, needs a win, especially when it comes to foreign policy. And I'm deeply concerned. And so are members of Congress, former colleagues I have spoken with.

CAVUTO: All right.

BROWN: They're deeply concerned the president is going to do any deal, bring it back to Congress and then say, hey, if you don't approve it, all right, we will go to war. Or if war happens, then it's on you.

CAVUTO: Well, I hope you're wrong on that.

Scott Brown, thank you very much.

BROWN: I hope I'm wrong too.

CAVUTO: Good seeing you. All right, thank you, sir.

BROWN: Thanks, Neil.

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