Pentagon downplays ISIS attack: 'Keep it in perspective'

Terrorists launch failed suicide attack at base hosting US Marines


This is a rush transcript from "The Five," February 13, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Hello everyone. I'm Eric Bolling along with Andrea Tantaros, Bob Beckel, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City. And this is "The Five."

So ISIS is now fully in control of another Iraqi town and just launched a suicide attack on the perimeter of Al Asad Airbase a few miles from al-Baghdadi. More than 300 U.S. marines are stationed there. Here's Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby on where things stand now.


JOHN KIRBY, PENTAGON PRESS SECRETARY: We're talking about somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 to 25 total ISIL fighters, at least several suicide attackers. And we do -- early indications are that, yes, some of them did detonate their vests, detonate themselves. They were immediately engaged by members of the Iraqi army, the seventh infantry of the Iraqi army. All were killed.


BOLLING: But he's still downplaying the threat.


KIRBY: I don't think we should make more out of this. I'm not saying we're dismissing the seriousness of the potential breach here, or of the increased activity by ISIL. But we ought not to make more than needs to be made of it. This is an enemy that we still assess to be in defensive posture. It's one town. It's not all of Iraq. We need to keep it in perspective.


BOLLING: Just noting here, the president's been shooting selfie videos this week. And the commander-in-chief is now on his way to sunny California for much needed R&R golf and high-priced fundraisers. Yolo, Bob.


BOLLING: You only live once, remember? The video from yesterday.

BECKEL: I thought it was kind of appropriate backdrop for what he's doing this weekend. I mean, he's getting ready to go out and play a little golf. And, you know, doing a selfie. I think that's part of it. Seriously, you expect the commander in chief on everything -- I'm not downplaying it either, but it's one town. It's 25 people. He's going to stop himself from doing whenever that happens he's going to stop himself completely.

BOLLING: Dana, you think it's one town and they're not actually making inroads.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: I believe the Pentagon press secretary. I don't feel he has reason to downplay the threat because there are reporters on the ground. The first reports we saw were from Reuters, so I think that's probably accurate.

BOLLING: I'm not necessarily talking this attack. I'm talking about in general.

PERINO: I think it's impossible to know. Because last week when they were trying to push that Kobani had been returned to Iraqi hands, at the same time ISIS had increased its land territory by 30 percent within Syria. So I don't know if -- it's not exactly one for one. I think it's just too hard to know. I don't think they're lying to us though. I also think we have to point out that the president actually is in California because he held a cyber security summit today. And he did tack on the trip to Palm Springs after that. But he was on serious business.

BOLLING: OK. Thanks, Dana. So great.


PERINO: We have to be fair.

BOLLING: No, because we've been talking about whether or not this strategy or lack thereof is working or not. But when you listen to the Admiral Kirby, it sounds like it's working.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Well, it's terrifying what's going on with all of this climate change, seizing control of Northern Iraq, I think Obama should send Bill the science guy there with a selfie stick, and fight this climate change. My joke here is that their obsessions with other issues have allowed this to happen. However, what's going on in this area isn't necessarily bad. The fact is you can only step on roaches when you can see them. And the strategy is to create a place for them to go. And then you follow a simple equation in which you kill more of them than actually enlist. For every new recruit, you know, we should try to kill four. I mean, it's all about enticing them. We should open a flag company. And then whoever buys an ISIS flag, you follow them home and kill everybody.

BECKEL: You know what I heard today? I heard President Obama say he called out the shootings in North Carolina and the three Muslim students that were killed -- he said no one should be targeted for their faith. Targeted, very important, because it was just a day ago he said the shooting, the terrorist attack in the Jewish deli in Paris was a random act. I'm seeing inconsistencies here.

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Well, he's mentioned religion as well bringing up Christianity and Christianity has flaws as well. He hasn't invoked (ph) religion from time to time, but Greg's absolutely right. They have focused on all these other issues because they don't want to focus on terrorism in the Middle East. But not just that, for them to focus on ISIS, they have to retract the storyline they sold us which was Iraq was going to be the greatest achievement of the administration. That's what Biden told us that. We know that's not true. The president wasn't going to his intelligence briefings, he wasn't reading his intelligence memos, he was saying ISIS is jayvee. There was an opportunity to take them out and he didn't want to do it for political reasons because he wants to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan politically. That's what he wanted. So now, he's faced with going in wiping them out or doing nothing. But half-hearted measures in war, as the famous saying goes, are madness. So he either has to go and wipe them out or do nothing. Right now, he's provoking the Jihadis without doing anything. So he is stirring them up, poking the bee's nest and they're going to come after us.

BECKEL: Isn't the ultimate answer here Is only one of two things, either go in.


BOLLING: And do it.

TANTAROS: Or do nothing. Exactly.


BECKEL: Look, there's been a lot of air drops, a lot of people killed, a lot of things being done. We don't give enough credit to the Iraqis who I've been dumping on for a long time, but apparently, they are doing a good job in this one. We know the Kurds are doing a good job. So I'm not sure willing to answer that question, are you willing to send troops on the ground?

BOLLING: If it's working and everyone thinks Admiral Kirby's right and it is working, I prefer troops on the ground be Arab coalition group of troops on the ground rather than American troops. No one is crazy about President Obama invoking targeted attacks to the three Muslim students that were killed over likely a parking space, yet he won't say Islamic terrorist and calls Paris attack in a kosher deli nothing to do with.

PERINO: I think he would say he's been consistent. And I could see how they could draw that line, as weird as that might seem to us, I think he could probably say let's look at all these statements. If you want to do a sentence diagramming, he could show that he was.

GUTFELD: Also, we don't know if it was a parking space. We've heard that. The guy that -- the guy who killed these poor people is a horrible, horrible man and he should be hung in a park. He is a disgusting person. And I think what bugs me most about this is why the hell are we introducing politics into that story? Let it go and deal with it as a horrible, horrible crime. Find out what really happened there, what really happened there, and don't turn it into a political football.

BOLLING: Very good.

TANTAROS: I do get what you're saying though, Eric, because there have been instances where he's targeted companies like the hobby lobby who are Christian companies and he has used harsher rhetoric for them sometimes than he has actually when he is addressing.

BOLLING: Very good. We'll move on. My point simply was we know they targeted the kosher deli because of its ties to Jewish people, likelihood of Jewish people being in the deli. I think it's pretty obvious. Anyway, let's move on. How serious is the threat -- ISIS threat to America? Listen to this assessment from Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein.


SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN, D-CALIF.: We've seen the beheadings, we've seen the burnings, we've seen the hostages taken, we've seen people frog walked and then essentially mowed down. We've seen massacres. We've seen Christians killed simply because they were Christian and not Muslim. There's never been a time when there are more threats to the United States than there is now. So as I said once before, we're either going to fight them there or we're going to fight them here.


BOLLING: She is in a position to have a very educated opinion on that.

PERINO: Right. So her comments were in reaction to this new authorization to use military force question that's in front of the congress. On the left, the concerns -- this is not Dianne Feinstein, but democrats who would be farther left than she is on this, are saying it's too strong, it's too open-ended. It gives the president too much leeway. We don't want to go for it. The republicans on the other hand are looking at the language that the president said over and saying this actually doesn't look like it would achieve what she just outlined we need to achieve that we either fight them there or we're going to fight them here. So I think that the president, once again because they did not use very clear language has put forward legislation that the congress is not going to be able to pass without significant changes, and if it passes at all. The president has shown he's willing to do whatever he has been doing over the last six months without asking the congress for permission. Probably doesn't need anything additional.

BECKEL: The point we talked about yesterday -- yes, there's absolutely nothing in this legislation that he could do without legislation. What he's done is open himself up to the left -- everybody both left and the right to attach things on it. The left is worried about (inaudible). That resolution led to a very broad (ph) war in Vietnam. I mean, why do want to give yourself that kind of Christmas tree for people to hang bulbs on it.

BOLLING: And two-thirds of Americans polled in Fox News poll say he's not doing enough in fighting Islamic terrorism.

TANTAROS: I think that's probably true. I think the beheadings recently don't help. I would, to answer your question, Bob, why is he doing it this way? To me, it's suspect that he circumvents congress on the things he really wants to do. He doesn't want to do this, so it tells me he wants cover from congress. And he says let them fight it out, right? He's dragged one way where they don't agree to put boots on the ground then he can say oh, that was their decision. If it's the other way, he can blame them if something goes wrong. I think he's reaching out to congress for a CYA attempt, cover your behind, and he doesn't do.


TANTAROS: There's another word I can't say it on TV though.

BOLLING: Dianne Feinstein, refreshing to hear a democrat call it what it is.

GUTFELD: Yeah. I mean, well, with evil we need to be all-in. But it's hard when the president is all out. And he has -- it's a philosophical issue with him when you're dealing with the powerful versus the powerless. You cannot call it what it is. And that's why I think the poll doesn't -- the poll represents kind of a skepticism about his own desires for achieving a victory when in his own head, he doesn't believe in victory. He doesn't believe in winning or losing. I mean, look, if we had stayed there, this wouldn't have happened. And it was based on the idea that staying there was somehow weird, but we've stayed for extended periods of time in places after wars. That's normal. What's weird is leaving after you've won and letting -- and squandering a victory. That's weird.

BOLLING: And maybe putting a timeframe on it. Remember authorization use of military force has three-year limit on it whereas you are just pointing out, if you just kept going, you didn't have a time limit. Last one, today at the Pentagon Fox's James Rosen asked Admiral Kirby a very interesting question. Listen to this.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you say that Barack Obama as commander-in-chief has had a positive impact on the morale of the men and women of the United States Armed Forces?

KIRBY: The commander-in-chief is the commander in chief. He deserves and he has the respect of every man and woman in the United States military. And it doesn't matter to us who's in the White House or who sits on Capitol Hill. What matters is we do the job we're told to do.


BOLLING: Dana, good answer?

PERINO: Excellent answer. The only possible answer, the best answer. It should always be the answer. Now, you have seen polls that show that the military has had a decline in approval for President Obama, but they are professionals. You hardly hear anyone ever utter those words. They keep their personal opinions to themselves. They're there to do a job on behalf of all the American people. And I thought Admiral Kirby answered that perfectly.

GUTFELD: Yeah, the most important thing in the military is chain of command.

BOLLING: It doesn't matter who he is. He is still the commander-in-chief.


TANTAROS: Yeah, go ahead, Bob.

BECKEL: I was going to say that chain of command -- this commander-in- chief, you don't agree with his position. Therefore it's not a good chain of command.

BOLLING: Who me?


BOLLING: I don't agree with his position on what?

BECKEL: Almost everything.

BOLLING: I'm pretty much on board with everything he's done with ISIS. You do realize that, right?

BECKEL: No, I didn't realize that.

BOLLING: OK. Well, anyway, Andrea, your thoughts on this.

TANTAROS: I think there have been things he's done that would make sense for why the military is not feeling very good about this president. One, they've spent millions of dollars and lost blood and treasure to capture these terrorists in Gitmo, and he's releasing them. So if you're one of the men and women who went out to get one of these terrorists or one of the families that was home while that was happening, you've got to be pretty ticked off right now. Also when he came out and said we don't have a strategy on ISIS, imagine if you're at the department of defense, you're like how can you say that, we have strategies. If you're at the CIA, you're upset about trying to try interrogation officials for doing their job. And letting Iraq go, letting Iraq slide. If you served in Iraq, you've got to be pretty upset right now. So I can understand that.

PERINO: Don't forget the budget.

TANTAROS: And cutting benefits, yeah.

GUTFELD: And simultaneously you have deaths at the V.A. while Chelsea Manning is getting hormone treatments.

BOLLING: On the house.

TANTAROS: And a new column.

GUTFELD: New column on The Guardian

BOLLING: Well-deserved I might add.


BOLLING: One thing I don't agree with is when Susan Rice is making phone calls to the field generals telling them what the White House thinks.

BECKEL: I agree with you on that.

BOLLING: I need to go where telling me. Up next, should you have to have a college degree to become president of the United States? We're going to debate that. And later, Facebook Friday, one of our favorite segments. Send us your questions on We'll answer them coming up.


PERINO: Hey, so should it matter if a president has a college degree? Former presidential candidate Howard Dean thinks so. He just took on presidential 2016 contender Governor Scott Walker for leaving Marquette University his senior year before getting a diploma, accusing him of being unknowledgeable. However, Harvard medical school graduate Charles Krauthammer completely disagrees.


CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: I don't understand the story. Where is the story here? Student who's bored with his studies, with a year to go in credits in his senior year, interested in other events, was offered a good job and leaves. That's a story, that's a dog-bites-man story. I think this is a guy who has been vetted and people are searching for dirt. It's hard to find.


PERINO: Bret Baeir recently asked Walker himself about the topic.


BRET BAIER, HOST, "SPECIAL REPORT": Isn't it strange to have a president who didn't finish college?

GOV. SCOTT WALKER, R-WIS.: Oh, sure, I think. But there are a lot of things about me that are unlike any other kid. We wouldn't have the founders of Microsoft and Facebook and Apple and plenty of other places out there. Each of those folks left to start those companies about the same time I did in my senior year.


PERINO: All right. Greg, this is your favorite topic.



PERINO: Is this academic elitism at its best.

GUTFELD: Howard Dean is proof that a college diploma doesn't correspondent with IQ. Scientifically speaking, Dean resides in the same genetic arm as an end table. College has changed. You no longer learn how to think. You are told what to think. And what you end up having is people who aren't really smart, but they think they're smarter as you develop pointless opinions about gender and divestment. A lot of people, for me, the reason why I went to college was a delaying tactic. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I was scared. I didn't want to go into the real world. And I think a majority of people use college to figure out what to do. There are rarities where there are people who know what to do and leave. That's what Scott Walker did. That's what all the examples that you hear over and over again. These are people that figured out. And 90 percent of life is figuring out what to do next. It's just that some people it takes four years or seven.

PERINO: We actually have a list. Let me show you out of the 44 presidents we've had, there have been ten that did not have college degrees. And then just -- we don't have to name all of them, these are the successful Americans of modern times that don't have degrees including Oprah Winfrey, which I didn't know. It doesn't matter to me, Andrea, but do you think that if Scott Walker were a liberal and a conservative suggested he should not be president because he didn't go to college, do you think that would ever happen?

TANTAROS: No. But I actually think liberals would find it horrifying that he didn't go to an Ivy League university. I think politically, Dana, this points to the strength of Walker. That's the first thing I thought was they're firing at him because they're deeply threatened by somebody like Walker. And I think that when they do this they reveal a really ugly side of themselves. Because really, it's elitist. And they are looking down on somebody like Walker who's had tremendous success. And I do think it will backfire. Because I think there are a lot of people in the country who say maybe I didn't go to an Ivy League college or a four-year college, it was a two-year college or maybe a trade school or hey, I don't have a job right now. My college degree isn't really helping. I think they would look at Howard Dean and say this is an unfair attack.

PERINO: Does this type of comment from Howard Dean represent what the democrats really think about people without college degrees? And does it risk alienating the democrats from the rest of the people or does it maybe work?

BECKEL: You're point, the world alien is right. When it comes to Howie, he is a friend of mine. I still don't know where he is from. Now, I wanted myself to be a microbiologist. And I had it all worked out. And in my senior year, we ran out of money. That's why I went into politics. This is the kind of thing.

GUTFELD: You were really going to be a microbiologist?

BECKEL: Come on.

GUTFELD: I just wanted to check.

BECKEL: You're right this is the kind of thing that tends to backfire. Fortunately, it was not another candidate. Howard Dean seems to come out with these lines. We did warn him not too long ago, remember?

BOLLING: ISIS is a -- what do you say? A cult, not a terrorism group.


BECKEL: Yeah. I said, I like Howard, but Howard was a doctor. He should probably go back to that.

TANTAROS: But, bob, do you think that he does it on his own or do they wind him up to throw these bombs?


BECKEL: Believe me, he will say whatever he wants when he wants to say it. They don't control him at all.

PERINO: Greg -- I'm sorry, you're not Greg. You are Eric. Does this risk making the democrats look worse than the republicans?

BOLLING: Yes, every liberal -- every democrat out there is going, no, what are you saying? We're supposed to be -- it doesn't matter what your college education is. You know, if it were a liberal, they'd be saying look at this guy, didn't finish college, he forged through, he fought against his opponents, he won re-election three times when he wasn't even up for re- election on two of the three times. He would be a champion on the left if he were a liberal, but he's a republican so Howard Dean says oh look at this, he doesn't have enough education. I don't know, look what a lot of education gets. President Obama has a Harvard education and wherever else, Columbia, West Coast.


BOLLING: Wherever. Look where that got us.

PERINO: I have a prediction though. I think that in -- if this gets into a big competitive primary, it won't be one of the other republican candidates that raises this, it will be some third party PAC that raises the issue just to put doubt into the minds of people.

TANTAROS: Americans for presidential candidates with college degrees.

PERINO: Something like that.

GUTFELD: Do you know who never went to college?


GUTFELD: Caligula.


PERINO: Interesting. Do you know who else didn't finish his senior year?

GUTFELD: Attila the Hun.

PERINO: Karl Rove.

GUTFELD: There you go. Atilla, the Hun.


PERINO: And Ellen DeGeneres.

GUTFELD: Yes. They're all evil.

BOLLING: Do you know who else might not have gone to college? The people who came up with Chris Christie's PAC -- the name for Chris Christie's PAC.

PERINO: That was a good one.


PERINO: Do you remember it?

BOLLING: Leadership matters for America dot org, LMFAO.

PERINO: Yes, exactly. We'll let you work on that little puzzle during the break.

Still to come, Facebook Friday and we're also going to answer some love questions on this Valentine's Day eve. Stay tuned.


GUTFELD: What's wrong with asking questions? Isn't it a sign of intellectual spirit? One that's unafraid of posing provocative notions?

Poppycock. Only idiots hide behind the phrase, "I'm just asking questions," to avoid reaping the shame and abuse for posing repellant garbage.

See Shirley MacLaine. In her memoir, the crackpot writes, "What if most Holocaust victims were balancing their karma from ages before when they were Roman soldiers putting Christians to death, the Crusaders who murdered millions in the name of Christianity, the energy of killing is endless and will be experienced by the killer and killee."

It's not just offensive but an example of impostor intelligence. For intellect without boundaries is mere stupidity. Any dolt can ask a question, and a tasteless one frolics in the misery of others.

It's no different than a typical 9/11 truther. They weren't in New York, they didn't see the planes hit the buildings or the people die. Lucky them, they can pose questions minus the intimacy of suffering. Likewise, Shirley wasn't in a concentration camp, allowing her to use their hell for fun and profit.

Which leads me to wonder, did Shirley write this awful book as punishment for her being a horrible creep in her previous life?

No, because she's a horrible creep in her present life. Maybe in the next one she'll be human? I'm just asking questions.

Dana, this book came out last year, but people are finally getting around to reading it because we're so busy.

PERINO: It's one of those books that you buy but don't read.

GUTFELD: Exactly. Like every book.

PERINO: Except for yours.

GUTFELD; Of course. She thoroughly debunks the notion that with age comes wisdom. Because as she ages she gets nuttier and nuttier.

PERINO: I have a different -- I'm not going to disagree with you on that, but I think there's something else happening in publishing.


PERINO: OK. Another recent example was Lena Dunham's book, which people bought but did not read.


PERINO: Until Kevin Williamson of "National Review" said, "I think I'll read this book." And it comes to find out there was very controversial things in there.

So the editor and publishers are either not reading them...


PERINO: ... or they don't realize that this is actually going to be controversial. Or they know it's controversial, they don't try to protect their authors, and they let it happen so that they get to do segments like this. You know, and they get Drudge Report coverage so that they can get more publicity for their books.


PERINO: That's my theory.


BOLLING; Can I just point out?


BOLLING: I think I know someone who read that book.

GUTFELD: Really?

BOLLING: President Obama.

Who else would equate 800-year-old crusades that's trying to explain -- falsely explain events that are happening now or around now?


BOLLING: It comes right -- I'm just...

PERINO: You're just raising questions.

GUTFELD: You're raising a question.

PERINO: Just asking.

BOLLING: Raising a question.

GUTFELD: Raising a question.

BECKEL: ... reached too far, don't you think?

PERINO: Just asking a question.

TANTAROS: Wait a minute.

GUTFELD: Clearly, you must be kidding.

BOLLING: Surely. Only Shirley.

TANTAROS: Greg just painted (ph) all the things that Shirley MacLaine said, and you think Eric just went too far? Whoa, Bob.

BECKEL: I'm not debating Shirley. I mean, I -- God knows where I was in a previous life. But...

GUTFELD: You're living all of them at once.


PERINO: Lord knows where you were in this life.

BECKEL: Well, that's right. There have been a few of them, haven't they?

There was a point I was going to make here, and I let it go; because I simply think publishers in this day and age haven't just went through the process of selling a book are -- some of them are clueless. Some don't get it, but most of them don't read the book. So, you know, maybe this is an effort to try to gin up sales after the fact. Who knows?

GUTFELD: Could be. Andrea, OK, if you -- imagine if you went up to the mother of a murdered child and said, you know, "Maybe your kid probably killed somebody in a previous life." That's kind of wrong, but that's exactly what she did in a more cowardly way, because she did it in a book and not to people's faces.

TANTAROS: Yes. So you wonder, one, who's she friends with? Right? Who does she surround herself with? I mean, to Dana's point, somebody had to read and edit this book.


TANTAROS: And the same thing with Lena Dunham's book. There were reviews done on the book where people did read it and praised it. So I do think it's a case of people reading this, going, "That's a really good question."


TANTAROS: And they just nod their heads and do Stepford staff type things.


TANTAROS: And they just let them get away with it, because they either agree or they just love them so much that they don't question the ridiculousness of what they're saying. This is pretty disgusting, though.

GUTFELD: Yes. They're terrifying.

PERINO: Did you actually think that about the victims, child victims of the Holocaust?

GUTFELD: Yes. Crazy.

Calling her crazy, though, is like -- it's pointless.

PERINO: She's really good in "Downton Abbey," though.

GUTFELD: Yes, she is.

PERINO: She should stick to acting.


TANTAROS: Who does she say these theories to? Like at cocktail parties.  Like who does she like -- "I know, those Holocaust victims, was it karma?"

GUTFELD: Yes, there you go.

TANTAROS: I mean, who...

PERINO: Do you think she says that in Hollywood? I doubt it.

TANTAROS: No kidding.

BECKEL: It's -- our birther, Eric, has a good point.


BOLLING: I'm -- wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

BECKEL: I'm only kidding. I thought I'd give you a shot...

BOLLING: Never. No, no, no, no, no.

BECKEL: You would never rebirth or understand that? By the way, have you seen...

BOLLING: Rebirther.

PERINO: That's a birther with karma.

GUTFELD: The president -- the president...


BECKEL: I have not seen the birth certificate.

GUTFELD: I have not seen the birth certificate.

BECKEL: Have you seen the birth certificate?

GUTFELD: That's a good point. Impeach him.

All right. "Facebook Friday" is up next. Yay.

BECKEL: I meant to say...


TANTAROS: Time now for "Facebook Friday." And I have got your questions for us right here. So let's kick it off.

Bob, take a break from your Valentine writing.

BECKEL: Yes, sure. Right.

TANTAROS: From Teresa W., "How is your daughter doing in college and is it an adjustment for her?"

BECKEL: She's doing very well, and it's more of an adjustment for me than for her. And I miss her very much. She's doing very well. She loves Colorado.

And the good news: she doesn't want to come back to Washington. She's now going to move into business school, believe it or not. And she said the only thing holding her back right now is me.



PERINO: Got to let her go.


BECKEL: By the way she's doing great. Thank you for asking.

TANTAROS: That is good.

All right. Linda G., Eric, "What do you miss about Chicago?"

BOLLING: Not much.

PERINO: The weather.

BOLLING: I do not miss the weather. The coldest place on the planet. I don't care...

PERINO: The pizza.

BOLLING: The pizza's great.

PERINO: The mayor. Baseball.

BOLLING: You know what I miss? Russian Division, the corner of Russian Division. There are some amazing bars that are so much fun in the summer.  People congregate. That's a great place to hang out. If you're a tourist, go wait until it's like June. Otherwise, it will be too cold.

PERINO: I thought that would be, like, some bizarre math equation.

BOLLING: Russian Division?


BOLLING: No, no.

TANTAROS: Are there really only 100 days of summer in Chicago?

BOLLING: At the most, and 85 of them are sweltering hot.

PERINO: Are the worst.


TANTAROS: Dana from Karen L., "What is the worst dish that you ever served your hubby, and did he eat it anyway?"

PERINO: Well, if he were here, we might flip the question around, because he cooks -- he does more of the cooking than I do. But when I lived in England with him, and I wasn't working, and I got this cookbook, "The Moosewood Cookbook," and I was really trying, I made something called the no-bake cookies. Which was this idea of this healthy cookie thing that you can make them. And basically, it was like soup, mud or looked like dog turds. But I have to say...


PERINO: ... he ate it anyway. So it must have tasted OK.

TANTAROS: Aw, now that's love.

PERINO: No-bake cookies, there's really no such thing.

GUTFELD: That reminds me of a movie I -- no, never mind.


TANTAROS: Greg, you're up.


TANTAROS: Tricia N. wants to know, "Please share some thoughts about David Carr."

GUTFELD: David Carr is a great media reporter for the New York Times who I knew for about 15 years. Passed away yesterday. Was quite a character.  One of the most interesting people that I've ever met.

In every iteration of my career where I've gotten into trouble, he was there on a bicycle smoking a cigarette, taking my story. And he actually flew to London to spend a couple of days with me when I was at Maxim and watched that downfall. He always seems to show up after I implode, and then he always writes about it.

And he was such -- he was such an interesting person. And everybody in media loved him, even if he -- like I don't -- he wasn't a fan of the work I did, but it really didn't matter. You know, he was just -- he was a fan of interesting things. And he was -- he was the only reason -- I mean, he's the only thing I read in New York Times. You know?

TANTAROS: Sounds like he did his job, because he wasn't supposed to be a fan. He was supposed to...

GUTFELD: Yes. I mean, he was biased, but he was -- he was true.


GUTFELD: I guess.

PERINO: He'll be missed.

TANTAROS: All right. Very sad.

From Judy M. for me, "Andrea, have you ever dated a liberal Democrat? And did you try and reform him?"

Bob's laughing because, no, I have not. Although I have...

BECKEL: You sure?

TANTAROS: I tweaked my policy. Remember how I said I would never go out with someone who voted for President Obama?


TANTAROS: So I recently changed the policy, but I've altered it so that if they voted for him the first time I can forgive it, but not the second.

PERINO: OK. I think that's a good policy.

TANTAROS: I moved the field goal, Dana, you know?

PERINO: I think that's reasonable.

TANTAROS: Yes, I think it's reasonable, too. All right. And plus, he's really cute.



TANTAROS: Lynn R.: "What one thing in your life are you most proud of?"

BECKEL: By far and away, unquestionably, getting sober and developing faith to do it.

TANTAROS: That's a good one.



TANTAROS: Michael P.: "You're stranded on a desert island. Three favorite all-time albums you cannot survive without. What would they be?:

BOLLING: "Toys in the Attic." Led Zep...


BOLLING: "Toys in the Attic," Aerosmith. Led Zeppelin, any. And "Quadrophenia," The Who. Those would be my...

PERINO: They had an album called "Any"?

BOLLING: "Led Zeppelin II" probably, of all of them, that was probably my favorite.

TANTAROS: All right. Dana, Michael R.: "How did you become a country music deejay, and who do you enjoy listening to beside Dierks Bentley?"

PERINO: I became a country music deejay. It was 2 a.m. to 6 a.m.  Saturdays and Sundays. It was minimum wage in Pueblo, Colorado. Did Pueblo and Colorado Springs.

I got the job because if you wanted to go into TV, you really had to start in radio. And that was a way to get a start. And I'm not good at staying up late. I guess I'm pretty good at getting up early, but not that early.

But I was a huge fan of Garth Brooks and George Strait. And I grew up listening to country music. Then, after those ten years of the White House years where I didn't listen to anything but National Public Radio, I started listening, and I found Dierks Bentley. And so who do I listen to besides him? Dierks Bentley tribute bands.


BECKEL: What would you do if Dierks Bentley (UNINTELLIGIBLE)?  You were a DJ. Pretend you were a DJ.

PERINO: I like Zac Brown. I like Randy Houser. I like Levi Lowrey. A lot of people don't know Levi Lowrey. Clay Cook.

GUTFELD: You're a big fan of G.G. Allin. Right?

PERINO: I don't know who that is.

TANTAROS: Oh, I know who that is.

PERINO: What is that?

TANTAROS: "Hated," it's an excellent documentary.


TANTAROS: Just don't watch before you eat dinner.

Greg, from Jerry S.: "Greg, without insulting you, what is with the shirts and the sweaters?" I think that's an insult.

GUTFELD: I have no idea. It just happened. You know how you develop a weird obsession? You start collecting things, and all of a sudden, like, the people come in to boom your door because you've got 6,000 Egg McMuffins.

PERINO: Or unicorn mugs.

GUTFELD: ... in your bedroom. Yes, you collect -- but I don't know why I -- I just started -- you know what it was? Because...

PERINO: It's cold in here.

GUTFELD: It's cold in here.

BOLLING: Whose sweaters are they?

GUTFELD: They're my sweaters.

BOLLING: Not Hemmer?

GUTFELD: Not Hemmer. Well, since Hemmer moved out, all of his stuff is in storage. And come and get your jerseys whenever you want, Hemmer.

Wow. You really ruined it, Eric. You had to bring up the past.

BOLLING: That was on Hemmer (ph).

TANTAROS: All right. Last one, because we don't have time for the group question, unless you want the group question.

BECKEL: No, you go ahead and take yours.

TANTAROS: OK. Trudy v.: "name one thing on your bucket list." Hmm. Why are you laughing?

PERINO: You're too young to have a bucket list.

TANTAROS: I do have a bucket list. Like meeting Joan Rivers was on my bucket list. That one had to get crossed off, very sadly. I don't know.  I mean...

GUTFELD: Who has a list of buckets?

TANTAROS: I'd like to go to South America. Become a mom. I don't know.  Those are good ones, right?


BECKEL: I used to have a bucket list. It was of the greatest bars around the world I wanted to go to. Check them out, you know?

GUTFELD: A sand bucket, a water bucket.


TANTAROS: The group question we can answer on our social media.

BECKEL: What is it? What does it say?

TANTAROS: Do "The Five" hosts have tattoos?


BECKEL: Dana does.

BOLLING: So glad that we ran out of time for that one.

TANTAROS: We've got some love questions coming up. It's Valentine's Day eve. Bob's writing his Valentine's Day. So do we believe in love at first sight? Well, you'll have to stay tuned.


BECKEL: Valentine's Day is tomorrow. Whoopee. And (UNINTELLIGIBLE) conducted some new polls. In a minute we'll talk about what's most important when choosing a Valentine.

But first, the big question, do you believe in love at first sight? Fifty- one percent of Americans say yes; 47 percent say no.

And you say, Eric?


BECKEL: Really?



PERINO: Yes, happened to me. And now we've been married 17 years.

BECKEL: Wow. Greg.

GUTFELD: No. Love at first sight is a biological mechanism tricking you into commitment so that you have children and continue your species. And then later kill each other.

TANTAROS: Aw. That's such a lovely Valentine's Day thought.

BECKEL: OK, Andrea. Andrea, Greeks are known for falling in love quickly.

TANTAROS: We're known for lust at first sight.

BECKEL: Yes, I know that.

TANTAROS: A very different thing. I don't believe in love at first sight.  I believe in...

GUTFELD: That's what it is. It's lust.

TANTAROS: Yes, it's lust.

BECKEL: Well, let me put it this way. I believe that, because I -- when I go back to my drinking days at night in a bar, I saw a woman, I fell in love with her. She was beautiful, she was a ten.


BECKEL: And then the next morning I woke up, and she was a two. What are you looking like that before?

GUTFELD: Because you've said that 67 times.


TANTAROS: Oh, poor Bob and his bad jokes that he uses all the time.

BECKEL: What are you picking on me for?

They did another poll. Sense of -- will you on sense of humor or politics, the most important in a relationship? Eighty percent say sense of humor, 7 percent politics. Do you agree with that?

BOLLING: I think -- yes. So if the whole pie is 100 percent, 99.9 percent is sense of humor. Politics shouldn't even play a role.

BECKEL: I agree. Dana.

PERINO: I like humor. It's the best thing.

BECKEL: Greg, you may be close to this.

GUTFELD: Politics is important. Humor's important. But if they're so hot, who cares? Who cares? I don't care if they can't even speak.

TANTAROS: That's what people say when they see you.

GUTFELD: I don't care if they're murderers. If they're beautiful, come on over.

TANTAROS: Sense of humor, Bob. Sense of humor.

BECKEL: That's you?


BECKEL: OK. Well, listen, I'll tell you mine. A sense of humor's good.

But I've got -- I'm late getting my Valentine's Day card. So my Valentines out there. You know who you are. I think this will be a little late getting there. "Blaze from Daddy. Blaze again."


BECKEL: Blaze. To Star. To Crystal again. From Daddy. To Gigi, from Daddy.

TANTAROS: You don't have a daughter named Gigi.

BECKEL: No, I don't.

TANTAROS: Or Crystal.

BOLLING: Greg Gutfeld.

BECKEL: Here's my Valentines. "You are the one and only one for me -- only one for me."

PERINO: They're going to love those.

BECKEL: Come over Friday for two hours.

OK. "One More Thing" is up next.

PERINO: Penn (ph) made cards up to spec.


BOLLING: Time for "One More Thing." Greg, you kick it off.

GUTFELD: Tonight I will be on "O'Reilly" with Bernie McGuirk, and it's a barnburner, Dana. A barnburner.

PERINO: How inappropriate.

GUTFELD: Silence!


GUTFELD: Greg's Sports Corner.


GUTFELD: Favorite part of the year is the Panda Slide Olympics. There's a lot of splinters. Take a look. Here we go. They're lining up. These are all seasoned panda athletes, going down. You know what? That's Fluffy McGee, who actually took first place.

These guys have been doing this for years. And they are amazing. The winner, of course, got a full banquet of foods.

TANTAROS: How do you win?

GUTFELD: You just keep going down the slide over and over again without hurting yourself.

The losers, however, are made into hats.

PERINO: Oh, fashionable.

GUTFELD: But I think it's a win-win for everyone, I think. In fact, Win- Win is the name of the panda.

BOLLING: Not Fluffy McGee.

GUTFELD: Fluffy McGee.

BOLLING: Oddly enough, named the same as that cat a couple weeks ago.

PERINO: Fluffy McGee, an Irish panda.

GUTFELD: They're all named -- they're all Irish pandas. Except for Win- Win.

BOLLING: And they travel around in the summer and fix your roof.

PERINO: Is there a Lose-Lose?

GUTFELD: So is it's Friday, time for...



GRAPHIC: Fool of the Week


BOLLING: "Fool of the Week" again. A lot of options to choose from.  President Obama for using the selfie stick was in the list. Howard Dean for calling out Scott Walker's education. The radical Girl Scouts in Oakland, California. And Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who's saying she wasn't exactly 100 percent sober during the SOTU. However...

TANTAROS: You called her a loser for having a roadie (ph) at the State of the Union? That was awesome.

BOLLING: No. However, that...

BECKEL: Yes, you had a roadie...

BOLLING: ... would -- that immediately took her off the list of being a potential "Fool of the Week." However, this didn't take this person off.


MELISSA HARRIS-PERRY, MSNBC: They call you the duck. So they would say you have a very sort of placid, even way of presenting. But you are just working for justice underneath. Would you quack for us?  ERIC HOLDER, ATTORNEY GENERAL: I'm not sure I want to do that. But I like the analogy.


BOLLING: MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry with a few minutes from -- with the outgoing attorney general, decides to ask him, "Will you quack like a duck?" I guess MSNBC, if that's what you call news, knock yourself out.

All right. Ands, you're up.

TANTAROS: Did you hear the way she said "underneath."

BOLLING: Underneath.

TANTAROS: "Underneath."

GUTFELD: Thank God we don't do...


TANTAROS: Like she wanted to lick his face.

OK. Yes, right. OK. This is an amazing new invention. OK. It's called And it is a new way for policymakers and lawmakers and journalists to connect with human rights activists on the ground.

So think about this, if you are on the ground in Syria or Iraq or Iran, and you want to get your message out, you can go on and you can talk to people like Senator Marco Rubio. So he wanted to find out what was going on on the ground in Iran, in these foreign countries. You can go to Cuba. You can find out what's happening. You have a post. And if you're on the ground there, you can tell your story and reach directly to Washington or wherever. This is a genius idea. It's going to change the way that we figure out what's happening in some of these countries we can't get access to. It's an excellent tool for journalists and researchers. And kudos to the senator for being one of the first to use it.

BOLLING: We need to get Bobby in. Go ahead, brother.

BECKEL: All right. This is Friday the 13th. Do you ever wonder why the thirteenth, Friday the 13th was going to be a scary day? Well, it started in Europe, actually. And then they've -- out of that they've named, like, the movies, Freddy...

GUTFELD: Right, "Friday the Thirteenth."

BECKEL: Freddy Krueger. They had thirteen -- some hotels actually don't have the 13th floor. Because it's all about 13. It all started with business, as most things do that are a problem.

BOLLING: Two more this year: one next month and one later in the year.

GUTFELD: Hey, have you ever seen that movie about the star wars?

PERINO: Gee, what was the name of that?

GUTFELD: I don't know.

BECKEL: I'm the guy that always sit with Jabba the hut in the bar.

GUTFELD: All right. Dana, your "One More Thing"?

PERINO: OK. So you know that most women love men that have an accent.  OK?

TANTAROS: Me and Dana.

PERINO: For a long time that -- the favorite accent around the world was French. But there was a poll that was done by The Daily Mail, and it turns out that that has changed. And it is now the English accent that is preferred. And I happen to be the lucky recipient of the accent.

GUTFELD: I guess so.

PERINO: My husband Peter took a selfie with Jasper.

GUTFELD: Of course, Jasper.

PERINO: Don't -- it wasn't with a stick. He just took a selfie. Because they went to the park, and I wasn't there. But that's them, and we've been together 18 years.

BECKEL: What do you say, Greg?

GUTFELD: ... on the show.

TANTAROS: Yes, but Dana, British accent's always been the best.

BOLLING: We've got to go. Set your DVR so you don't ever miss an episode of "The Five." That's it for us. Have a great weekend. "Special Report" is next. Have a great Valentine's Day.

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