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Media choose 'police killing of blacks' as top story of 2014

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," December 23, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Greg Gutfeld along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Bob Beckel, Eric Bolling and she serves on a tongue depressor, it's Dana Perino, this is The Five.

An AP poll of the U.S. press asks for their top story of the year. They chose police killings of blacks. Not Ebola, not ISIS, not a missing airplane and its 227 people. The police killings of blacks.

I call that bad timing, but it's also the media completing their self-fulfilling premise. This is how it works. You take something awful and claim it reflects an epidemic. When the facts refute this, you resist because you dig the excitement of antagonism.

Then comes the looting the assaults and now murder. Who build that? Such incidents are stories, but the media shaped them into an indictment, creating an exaggerated narrative that endangered cops.

And now that cops are making fewer arrests to protect their own lives, CNN asked if crime could spike. What are you talking about? Isn't that what you wanted? A timid police? Now that's what you have.

The media also wonders if the killings would derail the protests. Shut up. The cop killings derail something far nobler -- the cop's lives.

See, for the media, protest is their pal, it allows them to slam law enforcement as a proxy for America itself. It's the leftover habit from college.

Fact is, the police save more minority lives every year and communities value their presence. You remember the Public Enemy song, "911 Is a Joke," about how cops wouldn't come to black neighborhoods? Now they do, and they're despised for that as well.

Funny how the left created the term "hate speech," yet they're the ones who mastered it.

So Dana, you were the one that picked up the story yesterday, is it any surprise that they picked this particular issue?

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: I was surprised that they didn't choose torture, which has been their favorite topic for the last eight years, but this story no doubt dominated a lot of -- our programming, the front pages and even in the middle of ISIS --

GUTFELD: Right.

PERINO: The reconstitution of Al-Qaeda in a more lethal force in Syria and now Iraq and possibly other places the recruiting, the beheadings, nothing was more important than these stories. And in fact I think the big issue here is that a lot of the reporting on -- as we wait for a grand jury to finalize, a lot of the reporting turned out to be wrong, initial impressions were wrong. The process went through, the final decision, at least in the Ferguson case, came down without an indictment and in addition to that, we find out that the, "hands up, don't shoot" posture was not actually based on fact, it was fabricated. And the media reported that from the beginning. So, I'm a little surprised that they didn't go with other things that are also maybe equally as good a story, but with the AP editors, they love -- merely been targeting the NYPD.

GUTFELD: With the mask.

PERINO: For years, and make it Pulitzers for it.

GUTFELD: Right.

PERINO: So why wouldn't you nominate yourself?

GUTFELD: That's right. The AP did that whole series on the police surveilling mosques of how -- of Islamic foe (ph) but that was -- Eric, the stories were legitimate, local stories separate but they take them together and they created an indictment.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: So, can I agree with their choice and disagree with it at the same time?

GUTFELD: Yes.

BOLLING: I agree that it's probably the story of the year, the Ferguson -- what took place in Ferguson, what took place in New York. No question, we've covered it, we've covered it quite a bit and we'll probably continue to cover the aftermath of the protests that stand it from those two activities. My problem is calling -- the way they -- the way they named it, police killing of blacks?

PERINO: Right.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Right.

BOLLING: That's the real outrage here, call it the story of the year, but let's call it what it was. In Ferguson, a black teen held up liquor -- convenience store and was killed resisting arrest. In New York, a guy shouldn't die for a cigarette, but was still killed in the process of resisting arrest. Call it what it is, it's a racial -- confrontation between the communities, black community and the police. And I have no problem was saying that was the story of the year, just the way the name it is bad.

PERINO: That's the point.

GUTFELD: Bob, I want to play this -- this tape of de Blasio. Basically, doing what I just did, which is calling out the media and I want to get your response to this because, you've said this before.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BILL DE BLASIO, NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: Now the question is what you guys are going to do? What are you guys going to do? Are you going to keep dividing us? I heard from so many protesters who appreciated NYPD, I heard from NYPD officers and leaders who said, they saw peaceful protests, respectful protests. What you managed to do is pull-up the few, who do not represent the majority, who are saying unacceptable things. The question is will you tell the world about it? Because, you all are part of this too.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUTFELD: Yeah, Bob. He didn't mind the obsession of the media before -- when it came to supporting the protesters. And now, he's saying, "Please, don't -- don't do this anymore" Is it a bit hypocritical?

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Well no. I mean, what I think what he was saying is what I said before. You said in your monologue, which is the left, it is not the left, it's a very small number on the left. But having that.

(CROSSTALK)

BECKEL: Having said that, this is not the story of the year. Anybody who doesn't believe that ISIS, with the fact that Muslims have joined in a coalition to bomb Muslims is a gigantic, historical story. And it deserves to be the number one story by far, not even close does anything else come close to it. So, I reject the whole notion this is the biggest story of the year. It's a sad and horrible story, but there are a lot of sad and horrible stories. ISIS is a huge story.

GUILFOYLE: I'm going to agree with Bob about ISIS being the biggest story and it's going to continue into 2015, I think this story had so much traction because, unfortunately, it's how we've close the year out. But this is also no surprise, because they've been stirring to the pot with the Eric -- you know, Eric Holder justice department, demonizing police officers, targeting police officers in their investigation, and this went all the way back even to the Trayvon Martin case. So, this kind of eventually outcome I think was inevitable, given the kind of caustic rhetoric and antagonism, and just all the focus. Before these guys, they were the heroes, they were the ones that saved everybody with 9/11 and now we've turned the white hats into the bad guys, and it's really sad, because we can't get to a day in the city without their assistance and their bravery.

PERINO: Can I make comment about the mayor's press conference. I'm always surprised by liberal politicians that are then surprised by media coverage when there's actual reporting on the ground.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

PERINO: The reporters are not making up.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

PERINO: The quotes that they -- as far as we know, this is not the Rolling Stone, but.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

PERINO: Reporters across the board are getting close from their sources that are on the police force, from businesses and they are reporting those. That is not -- that is something that he actually just has to deal with. He has been the -- the mayor wrapped in bubble wrap. Based on the New York Times, they loved the story when he said that his son should be worried about dealing with the cops.

GUTFELD: Right.

PERINO: Because he might come into some sort of trouble. He loves it when he was controlling the narrative. Then there's an incident and they didn't picked up on any clues in the last 18 months that the police are unhappy with him.

GUTFELD: Right.

PERINO: I find it really hard to believe.

BECKEL: Don't you think is a little -- they should have when they wrote the story said, these quotes were attributed to serve people in this gang, but that was a very strong percent.

PERINO: I'm talking about quotes within the police force.

BECKEL: Oh, within the police force. I'm sorry. I thought.

GUILFOYLE: That he got the mayor was referencing.

BECKEL: Who were yelling, yelling.

GUTDFELD: Well, speaking of losers and the minority of losers in these protesters, there were a few I guess that showed up at the police memorial.

PERINO: Right.

GUTFELD: I'll get a comment from you Eric, after we roll this horrible tape.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SARA GANIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I do. Just in pull this closer I want to say within the last couple of minutes, for the first time today we've seen protesters come out here and start yelling at groups of police who are mourning their slain police officers. And they're quite frankly, yelling at group police officers who are standing here silently. Just looking at the memorial candles and flowers and posters, and they're yelling, similar rhetoric that we've been hearing over the last the whole weeks.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUTFELD: Is that amazing? It's amazing.

BOLLING: Christmas is this week. These officers are going to have a viewing on Friday, they going to be buried on Saturday, they couldn't wait until Sunday that to spark up that same rhetoric that, that as Bill Bratton said, probably the best of those two officers probably stand from the protest. He's the one who linked the -- deaths to the protests. You think they would wait until these -- these awesome two young men with families are laid to rest before they start again.

GUILFOYLE: No.

BOLLING: It's like the -- remember the west -- Westport of Baptist Church.

GUTFELD: Of Baptist Church. Much like.

BOLLING: It's the same thing.

GUTFELD: Yeah, it is.

GUILFOYLE: There is bad as them. That's the thing, you have to be in but. (ph)

GUTFELD: It's their right to do it, as repulsive as they are. But you -- Al Sharpton.

GUIFOYLE: Well, coma. (ph)

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: Is that he is going to resume protesting.

GUILFOYLE: Right.

GUTFELD: And it makes me to think, that the big story here is the toxicity of Sharpton. That wherever he goes, trouble follows. And, how does not -- how does the president, who has him over for 80 times. How is the mayor? What pictures does Al Sharpton have.

PERINO: Right.

GUTFELD: of de Blasio.

GUILFOYLE: I don't know, I definitely don't want to see them, though, I'm sure they're pretty bad. But why is it.

(CROSSTALK)

GUILFOYLE: That he's allowed -- why would you know?

GUTFELD: I don't know.

GUILFOYLE: Why -- the problem is, you're allowing people like Al Sharpton to control race relations in the United States of America and what a terrible job he has done stirring this up. And yet he turns press conferences into a whole thing about himself and that his safety and our people are after him. Does he have any conscience whatsoever?

BECKEL: Well, you.

GUILFOYLE: Or any class or sophistication? I think he just want to continue the profit, off of deaths in this country because that's what he's doing.

BECKEL: Can I -- can I make a strong suggestion to people on the lefts of my crowd and for particularly the black caucus. It seems to me that, when a few idiots like this stand up and then it is assumed that this represents us, it does not. They should be the first ones denouncing these idiots for doing what they're doing. And, stand up and speak out, this is not who we are, and yet we're being plastered with this. And for good reason, I can understand. If I had this example, I probably would use it too. But that's not the point, it's not who we are and you're not speaking out and I urge you, like caucus particularly, to stand up and be counted.

GUTFELD: You know -- can de Blasio.

GUILFOYLE: Thank you, Bob.

GUTFELD: Of being a -- save himself by, A -- divorcing himself from Sharpton and -- completely. And, when there are protests, I guess this weekend, if any of them tries to take a bridge or stop traffic, if they are -- they are dealt with -- as criminals. Isn't that the only way -- because if de Blasio looks weak, it's over for him, he's gone, I think.

PERINO: This is like -- this is the moment -- as it turned -- he can decide -- he's at a fork in the road. He can make a decision, because he allowed the closing of the bridges and blockings of the tunnels for a few nights.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

PERINO: And, see look, there relatively peaceful -- it's too bad that people feel inconvenienced but people want to express themselves. It actually one law breaking.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

PERINO: They allowed it to happen. I think now, he -- I think he will make a decision to not allow that type of illegal behavior to happen again. If he does not, that will -- I think show that he is a lame duck mayor and calls for his resignation will increase.

GUTFELD: He's -- right now, Eric.

PERINO: I wish that be.

GUTFELD: In this city, the police are told not to wear their uniforms outside.

BOLLING: And, and patrolling in -- two's.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

BOLLING: Like in the '70s, when they had -- last time, race wasn't this bad in New York. I find it interesting that de Blasio says, the media is being divisive. That those --

PERINO: It's unbelievable.

BOLLING: Those were his words, the media was being divisive. And a bunch of New York -- reporters, who really had a chance to push back hard, kind of went with it, I think -- shocking to me. However, will divisive? De Blasio is divisive. They're just reporting his divisiveness. When Eric Garner goes down and Eric Garner's family says, it was not about race yet. The very next day or day or two afterwards, the mayor of the city says, I turned to my --

GUILFOYLE: Son, yeah.

BOLLING: Young son, and say, who's -- a young man of color.

GUILFOYLE: Biracial.

BOLLING: You have to be careful how you -- treat your city police officers or you could find yourself in trouble, that's divisive. He is the one who's divisive. The mayor is reporting it.

GUILFOYLE: He is saying the cops are racist. He's in charge of the city. I mean, where do you even go from there? People ask is this a relationship that is -- you know, reparable? It's not. How can you fix this? I mean, the only way is this guy's got to go. He got lucky to get to get in to begin with. He has no clue and he has no pass.

(CROSSTALK)

BECKEL: I'm sorry.

PERINO: I was just going to say this on that point, in terms of lucky to get in, he did not have strong competition.

GUILFOYLE: He didn't.

PERINO: When he ran for mayor.

GUILFOYLE: That's what he didn't. (ph)

PERINO: And also there was very low voter turnout.

GUILFOYLE: True.

PERINO: And he won by -- like something like 74 percent of the vote. So, he walked in to office, thinking he had this huge mandate.

GUILFOYLE: But he really.

PERINO: That everybody endorse his politics. When I think of that, most people just sort of didn't pay attention to the race.

BECKEL: And so you better remember the history of New York City, they are all candidates and mayors that -- without the support of the police, and Ed Koch learned this from -- John Lindsay did not learn it. You see, everyone who said the police against them has not done well at the polls, I think he might be able to turn this around and he said I can resign. But if he continues on like this, it's going to cost him, it cost him dearly, politically.

GUILFOYLE: He's done after this.

GUTFELD: Yeah, you know, I was surprised. I read this crime stats in the New York Post for the last 25 days, compared to last year, shooting victims are up 60 percent, murders are up 27 percent. Is that a coincidence with the decrease of stop and frisk?

GUILFOYLE: But it isn't the time (ph) that what it takes?

GUTFELD: Yeah.

GUILFOYLE: To just you know, to be blasphemous about.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

GUILFOYLE: Everything that the police do, and keeping our community safe and now beg them. Beg them to safe and help us again.

GUTFELD: Yeah, call 911. The lights are going to be dimmed for five minutes at the Empire State Building and elsewhere throughout New York at 9 p.m. tonight, in memory of the fallen officers.

Alright, ahead on The Five, one former Medal of Honor recipient is fed up that America's first responders are getting the recognition they deserve, you'll hear from Marine Sergeant Dakota Meyer, next.

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GUILFOYLE: Following the grand jury's decision in Ferguson and New York, Al Sharpton re-emerges in the name of improving race relations in America. But he's only harming the country according to The Wall Street Journal and Jason Riley.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JASON RILEY, WALL STREET JOURNAL EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBER: What we've learned over the years is that when someone like Al Sharpton injects himself in racially contentious situations, people tend to get killed. When you're the mayor or the president of the United States or attorney general holder, and you choose to align yourself with someone like Al Sharpton instead of with the men in blue who protect our cities nationwide, you know -- you're asking for mayhem.

(END VIDEO CLIP) 

GUILFOYLE: Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke is offering this advice for members of the African-American community.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) 

DAVID CLARKE, MILWAUKEE COUNTY SHERIFF: My advice to the -- Garner family, to the Brown family and anybody else. If you see Al Sharpton coming in your direction -- he's coming to your town, run as fast and as far as you can from that individual, because he's only here to squeeze as much juice out of you as he can for his own self-serving purposes, and then he leaves.

(END VIDEO CLIP) 

GUILFOYLE: Tell it. (ph) Instead of listening to people like Sharpton, Allen West suggest, listening to the police.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) 

ALLEN WEST, POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: We have a rule of law, we have to have respect and regard for our police officers. No one has ever talked about the faithful decisions that Michael Brown made to tap a store owner, to rob a store, to assault and attack a police officer. You know, that's what we need to be having the discussion on. We need to be having a discussion about, if the police come up to arrest you, you should comply with the police.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUILFOYLE: Here's the shocking idea. Go through the process, take it through the courts, don't resist arrest, you could hurt yourself, you could hurt other people, by stands, it's a bad situation. Comply with the rule of law, and you will have your day to protest or fight your case in court. Is that such a crazy idea, Eric?

BOLLING: No, no. And I think that's what Al was pointing out there. I'm still baffled why people are still holding Al Sharpton up as their --

GUILFOYLE: Right,

BOLLING: As their go-to guy for race. The Obama White House is doing it. We've been suggest it Sony. There was some debate, I can't remember who it was, Washington Post or some publications pointed out that Al Sharpton was getting its national action that work in between the Comcast. They won Comcast and NBC were -- were making a merge with their buyout now, was threatening that deal, and by pulling away from the threats to that deal, he was somehow given or offered this show, they alluded to it. I'm not sure if that's even real, don't hang that on me, I read it today. But it will -- kind to make sense. But why did Sony do? Who died and said Al Sharpton is our no -- not now -- go -- new go-to guy. He doesn't help race relations in America. America is now say, race relations have dramatically gotten worse under President Obama, and maybe this as Greg points out, if he (ph) ready one time as in the White House.

GUILFOYLE: Right.

GUTFELD: He has a show on MSNBC. Does he have a picture of the MSNBC president with a pigmy horse? I mean, what -- I mean, what can you have? Like -- I mean, every day you know that this guy's on. And people are afraid to say -- he's stupid, he's just stupid. And -- there seems to be a lower bar for character, if you are -- I'm sorry, Bob, if you are a liberal. If we look at black civil -- black leaders like Sharpton, if you look at Farrakhan, if you look at Jesse Jackson. Meanwhile, you look at Allan West, you look at Jason Riley, you look at the conservative, there's seems to be leftists give a pass for being awful. They give you a path for being awful.

BECKEL; Well let me just -- I want to make a point in here. There's any support of anyone. Have you noticed during all these, Jesse Jackson has not appeared? And you've noticed.

PERINO; I've noticed that.

BECKEL: Louis Farrakhan has not said a thing.

GUTFELD: No he did.

BOLLING: No, he has. He has, he has.

GUTFEDL: He said the riots were A-OK.

BECKEL: OK well, I.

BOLLING: And now, he said something, something to the effect of, let's burn this place down.

BECKEL: Well, let me, let me put a perspective. He's not in this much, he usually Jackson by far in a way is not. I think Jackson is looking at this thing and saying and listen to what Sharpton's getting, to see it from all directions, and he's decided he wants to stay out of this, but I'll take the heat. When it comes to the question about the judicial system, there is something to what Allan West said, but with all due respect, there are some blacks to believe that they're not getting a fair shake in the judicial system. And, and that whether it's true or not, that's their perception.

GUILFOYLE: And you know what? And there's -- whites that think they're not getting a fair shake.

BECKEL: And that's -- I agree with that.

GUILFOYLE: And there's blacks that think they're not getting a fair shake, and there's Asians that they -- you know what? So let's work on.

BECKEL: What.

GUILFOYLE: Our rhetoric, let's not be divisive, let's try and make our judicial system which is the best in the world a little bit better with some more thoughtful discussion and understanding. Show a little respect for one another and appreciation for those who protect and serve -- that's all I'm saying.

BECKEL: OK.

GUTFELD: Greg, agree with Bob, though? I --

GUILFOYLE: No.

GUTFELD: OK. No, they're legitimate beliefs, sincere protests, but they have been hijacked by radical ideology.

GUILFOYLE: Like criminals.

GUTFELD: Race is now a conduit for revolution. And we hear about that, we hear about them from the protesters.

GUILFOYLE: Dana.

PERINO: Well, I was going back and thinking about Jason Riley's comments about the mayor and his decision. So, like a president, the first decision has to be -- my number one relationship that I need to establish immediately, if you're president, is with the military, and in the intelligence services. Those are the people that -- those are the people you are going to depend on, to uphold your highest responsibility which is, protecting the American people.

GUILFOYLE: Correct.

PERINO: When you are mayor, the same is true for the police. So, he made a decision early on that that was not going to be what he did. And that does eventually catch up to you. And I think the police have been pretty respectful of just trying to be calm about it, remember, it was de Blasio who sat Al Sharpton next to Bill Bratton.

GUTFELD: Graphic. (ph)

PERINO: The police commissioner, and made him sit there for a photo-op, while the rest of the police -- you know, basically steamed inside. He has multiple audiences whenever he speaks, the mayor does, and so does Bratton and so to Sharpton. But floor (ph) of mayor, the first and most important audience that when you're speaking at anytime that it's got to be the police, then it's your citizens, the business community, you competitors that other cities have might want take business away from you, and then Washington, D.C. And I think de Blasio had a nice run with the media up until recently. I don't know how he will try to get off the match. It could be that Christmas helps. So basically, everybody pause, hopefully it will be peaceful and people will have a nice time with their family. And if they really want to have a conversation about race coming back in January, they need to be very specific about what do you want to talk about, what do we need to deal with? And maybe it's the three issues, if it's just education -- good. If it's for criminal justice system and over criminalization, I think that's good too. And the third one, but has to be the police force and the sup fort for it for the community.

BECKEL: Yeah, I don't know one politician that wishes he had one line back in his career. And if think guy wish he had one line back, it was be -- I told my kids.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

BECKEL: That he had to be careful about police. That one will haunt him forever.

GUTFELD: Yeah.

GUILFOYLE: You're right.

GUTFELD: Do you think it's true? Or do you think it's a story.

BECKEL: Do I think he said it? Oh, yeah, sure, to his kids?

GUTFELD: It always feel.

BOLLING: Bob.

GUTFELD: These stories always feel like they were done for effect.

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: Yeah, manufactured.

BOLLING: Do you really think.

GUTFELD: Oh Yeah. Sure.

BOLLING: That he told his kid when he was -- he got a police, he try as for -- his kids probably has two cops that guard him all the time anyway.

BECKEL; No, he didn't -- sorry.

GUILFOYLE: Alright. Let's listen to this sound, has been really thoughtful discussion, I want to hear some words here from Dakota Meyer of Medal Of Honor recipient. Think about what he has to say.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) 

DAKOTA MEYER, MARINE MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT: Not one of us go out to serve this great nation, none of us wake up and say, "You know what? Today, I'm going to go serve on behalf of white people or black people, or Christians or Muslims or Hispanics or Jews, or on behalf of Republicans or Democrats, not one day do we do that." We stand up and say, "We're going to serve on behalf of Americans." And the day that we forgive that, the day that we start dividing ourselves even more by all of those subtitles is the day that we -- we have drop to a level of ignorance, this is intolerable.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUILFOYLE: Stay tuned. Because ahead on The Five, we've got some breaking news on that movie that wasn't supposed to be in theaters on Christmas day, Sony yang's (ph) it following hacking threats, a big development coming up.

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PERINO: Lawyer -- loyal, viewers of The Five, now we know -- knowing that we love -- excuse me, I'm all flusters here because of Greg. We know that we love to pick on colleges when there's certainty (ph) on campus. They give us so much material to work with -- how can we resist. This year, was a banner year for nutty politically correct behavior and national review has put together the year's best hits. Among them, Macalester College in Minnesota, lost the campaigns of banned using words like, wuss, or you guys, because they could be hurtful and have an impressive impacts on culture. At Cal State Fullerton sorority got in trouble for hosting a taco Tuesday event because some attendees wore culturally insensitive attire like some burrows and mustaches. And you might remember this one, a fraternity UC Irvine was accused of racist some against specific islanders for holding a charity event where students wear grass skirts and wore horse coconut bras. Greg, this is like your favorite.

GUTFELD: I love this.

PERINO: Topic is college campus.

GUILFOYLE: Coconut bra.

GUTFELD: I love it. By the way, Katherine Hemp (ph) came up with this article, and she's been following this.

Imagine if a men's group came out and said, "You know, young women can't handle curriculum that's unsettling." That would be called sexist. Except it's not men who -- men's groups who are saying it. It's actual feminists who are saying women are too weak to deal with these things.

Modern feminist bloggers have become one big parody. It's like you can't believe it. They put this false notion into women, that they're so fragile, that they're under constant attack from these outside forces and these micro aggressions. It's a psychological hypochondria, and it stunts their growth. Women have to get away from this stuff, because when you get out in the real nobody's going to listen to you about your micro- aggressions. They're not going to care that you're upset by words.

PERINO: Yes, words do upset them very much.

Bob, you actually wore -- when we did the story about coconut bras, you actually mentioned that. You actually wore one, right?

BECKEL: I have worn one.  And I can almost say it's a...

GUILFOYLE: And a puffy pirate shirt.

BECKEL: That's right. McAllister (ph) College, if that's the way you pronounce it, you guys are wusses. And if I knew what derp meant, I'd call you that, too.

GUTFELD: Derp?

BECKEL: I don't know what it means. Anybody who suggests that -- I use wuss all the time. I use "you guys" all the time. Are you kidding me?

GUILFOYLE: Oh, that's like nice.

BECKEL: Get yourselves a life, man.

PERINO: Do you think it's worse, now, Eric than when you were in college?

BOLLING: No, but I will tell you, almost one of these, when you go down this list of 11, those quote unquote micro-aggressions, that's Greek life.  That's the fraternity system, the sorority system.

By the way, it's not only fraternities, too. I think a lot of it goes down in the sororities, as well. I mean, it's part of the life. It's part of life. If you -- I don't know if you put some sort of prophylactic seal around people, when the real world hits them, it's going to hit them hard.

GUTFELD: Yes.

PERINO: Listen to this one, Kimberly. Students at Arizona State University, No. 3 there, they did a rally against rape culture, which sounds like a good thing to do. But then they were slammed for promoting rape culture because it encouraged men to respect women, and respect for women should be a given and not have to be encouraged.

GUILFOYLE: I mean, it's really getting confusing. We need, like, a flow chart for this insanity. And I wonder how much everyone is learning -- basic English classes, mathematics. Forget quantum physics, no time for that, people. Forgets, we're not going to have any more engineers in this country. And by the way, who's against Taco Tuesday? I do Taco Tuesday at my house all the time.

BECKEL: Who came up with the roofie nail polish? That's the thing I don't understand.

PERINO: The roofie nail polish was...

GUILFOYLE: roofie detecting nail polish.

BECKEL: So if you have it, it says, "This guy's got a roofie with you"?

GUTFELD: Yes.

PERINO: Right, but the...

GUILFOYLE: It might detect or do something. Maybe it changes colors or something.

PERINO: I like the innovation. Notice that's all that Bob focuses on.

GUTFELD: You know what, though? There really is a true micro-aggression.  You know what that is?

PERINO: What?

GUTFELD: When you get mad.

BECKEL: Oh, I get it.

PERINO: That's funny.

GUILFOYLE: Like mini-aggressive?

PERINO: All right. We've got to go. Ahead, a winter storm is sweeping across the country as millions of holiday travelers are on the move. Will it affect you? Stay tuned for our weather update, next.

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MARIA MOLINA, FOX NEWS METEOROLOGIST: Hello, everyone, we continue to track that risk for severe weather across portions of the gulf coast.  We're looking at a risk for some isolated tornadoes and damaging winds from some of these thunderstorms, anywhere from portions of Louisiana, Mississippi and as far east as parts of Georgia and also extreme southern parts of South Carolina.

So take that threat seriously; have a way to get these warnings throughout the day today.

Otherwise this storm system is going to be impacting millions of Americans.  We're looking at rain by tomorrow at noon, anywhere from northern Florida all the way up through parts of Maine. It's a relatively warm storm system, so much of the precipitation with it is in the form of rainfall.  As much as six inches of it could fall across parts of the southeast, so we do have a number of flash flood watches in effect out there.

And on the backside of the system, that's where we're looking at some snow, pretty heavy at times by tomorrow, across portions of the western Great Lakes and also to the Midwest through Ohio. You're looking at more of a wintry mix.

Now let's head back to "The Five."

BOLLING: Welcome back. Time for...

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GRAPHIC: Fastest 7

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BOLLING: ... the "Fastest Seven" minutes on television. Three cheery stories, seven fast-changing minutes, one chipper host.

First up, everyone has a cell phone video camera. Can you imagine this scene? Santa Claus, Rudolph, a misinterpreted comment, the uploading of that comment to YouTube and the backlash.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't have any freaks on the sleigh team, that's for damn sure.

GRAPHIC: 10 Reasons Santa Should Apologize.

GRAPHIC: Where is Mrs. Claus? A Look at the Woman Behind the Monster.

GRAPHIC: Reindeer Loot Santa's Workshop after Racial Tensions Climax.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to apologize to Rudolph. And Rudolph, I hope that you will lead my sleigh tonight.

GRAPHIC: Santa Fired. Oprah is New Santa.

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BOLLING: Greg, funny?

GUTFELD: Very -- it was a very clever take of how the world works now.  They only left out one thing: when President Obama calls the reindeer to see how he's feeling and that everything is OK.

BOLLING: "If I had a puppy dog, he would look just like you."

GUTFELD: Or reindeer.

BOLLING: Reindeer, whatever.

Dana, it is funny, but can you imagine the PC of the...

PERINO: I remember, I used to set my calendar, you know, to watch this when I was a little kid, because this is back in the day before the recorders. And we would -- my sister and I would get ready and we would watch this show.

And I remember always feeling, like, one, Santa was such a jerk and a bully, and I felt so bad. But a lot of those shows are teaching you to have emotions and deal with them, and ups and downs of life. I think you learn a lot from Santa.

BECKEL: I thought it's exactly appropriate. I felt that way from the very first time I heard it. I think Santa was a bigot. And I think that -- I agree with that.

BOLLING: K.G. ...

GUILFOYLE: What is happening?

BOLLING: Poor Santa.

GUILFOYLE: I know. I love Santa.

BECKEL: Will I take it back? Of course I'll take it back.

GUTFELD: Did somebody tell you in your ear to take it back?

GUILFOYLE: Yes. You got in trouble, apologize.

BECKEL: Do you think I meant that?

GUTFELD: That's incredible.

BECKEL: Where is your sense of humor, man?

BOLLING: That's great.

GUILFOYLE: I love Santa, and I have so many pictures on Santa's lap. And whoa.

GUTFELD: That was not Santa.

BOLLING: Santa and me. All right, we'll leave it right there.

Next up, liberal wussies, hide your eyes. You might want to send the little kids into the other room. We're going to show you a video of emotions getting the best of some college football players last night.  Ready?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Still scrambling. Lynch throws it up and a score!  Touchdown!

And now we've got a fight on the field. It was an emotionally charged game. We had lots of talking, pushing and shoving. And now...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're going to need more bodies in there to get these players separated.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. This is ugly, ugly.

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BOLLING: All right, Bobby-boy. Quit brawling, Miami.

BECKEL: I haven't been through many of them myself. I don't know what the big deal is. I mean, I hope nobody got hurt. But I've seen them bigger than that.

BOLLING: That's true. I don't think anyone did actually get hurt. I'm OK showing this. Are you OK showing this?

GUTFELD: There should have been a trigger warning before the game, because all of these micro-aggressions that we're showing have deeply disturbed me, and I'm going to have to go into therapy. I don't even know if I'm going to -- I'd like some time off from "The Five." Maye tomorrow I'll be off for a few days, because I don't -- if we could just put off the show for a while.

BECKEL: I'd like to see you in the middle of that scrub-down (ph).

PERINO: Will that make you watch football?

GUTFELD: Yes.

GUILFOYLE: I mean, this is what happens when you put a lot of men together, big men.

GUTFELD: Not always.

GUILFOYLE: This never...

BECKEL: How would you know that?

BOLLING: Why would you leave that spot? Why would you leave that time?

BECKEL: Why would you know that?

BOLLING: Take camera four. Dana.

PERINO: It just never happened on the speech team.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh. Right?

BOLLING: That would be cool if it was, though. Right?

GUTFELD: You should have been on the hate speech team.

BECKEL: Wouldn't it be cool to see a speech team duke it out? That would be great.

BOLLING: What about this one? Greg and Dana have different opinions of "Love Actually." I mean, the movie. "SNL" cut a spoof that never made air last weekend but should have.

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MUSIC: Sleep in heavenly peace, sleep in heavenly peace

MAN TURNING SIGNS: I'll never forget the first time I saw you. Through a hole I had cut in the wall of the women's locker room. Remember this?

So what do you say, Amy?

AMY ADAMS, ACTRESS: Look, you're sweet, but I'm married and also you're not that sweet, so...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure, yes, that makes perfect sense.

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BOLLING: All right. So since I've never seen the movie, you guys take it away.

PERINO: What do you mean you haven't seen the movie? OK. I highly recommend watching it. We've been talking about it for a reason; it's very good. And if you hate it, then you can joining in, you know, the hate speech against "Love Actually."

GUILFOYLE: I like it.

PERINO: The thing about that scene though, in the real movie, is that the key is neither of them speak a word. That's the beauty of that scene, right?

BOLLING: Right.

GUTFELD: Uh...

GUILFOYLE: Giving this movie a lot of press.

GUTFELD: You -- just some interesting facts about "Love Actually" is it's ISIS's favorite movie. And if you play it backwards, if you play "Love Actually" backwards, you will hear a satanic voice that says, "Embrace Lucifer. Drink poison."

GUILFOYLE: That's disturbing.

BOLLING: I did hear that.

GUILFOYLE: I love the movie. I don't know. I thought that was clever.  It's cute. I want to watch it.

GUTFELD: Honestly, do you love "Love Actually"?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, I do.

GUTFELD: I don't believe anybody...

GUILFOYLE: I love "Love Actually." I love the movie "P.S. I Love You." I love "Say Anything" with John Cusack. I mean, I can keep this going all day.

PERINO: I watched a good one the other night.

BOLLING: What?

PERINO: It's the one that you hated, "Begin Again." It's really good.  It's very sweet and cute. But it has Greg's nemesis in it.

GUTFELD: Who, Adam Levine? It's a terrible film. A terrible film.

GUILFOYLE: Why are you so obsessed with Adam Levine?

BOLLING: Bob, have you watched...

GUTFELD: Because he has good skin.

BOLLING: Have you watched "Love Actually"?

BECKEL: No. I've never heard of "Love Actually," and I couldn't care less.

GUILFOYLE: All right, Bob.

PERINO: Bob, you like movies?

BECKEL: Some.

PERINO: I think you would love "Love Actually." Do us a favor. Watch it this weekend and report back.

BECKEL: I like "Silence of the Lambs." I saw it 80 times.

GUTFELD: Have you seen "Wolf on Wall Street" yet?

BECKEL: Yes, I have many times.

GUTFELD: Do you enjoy it?

BECKEL: Very much.

GUTFELD: I figured you would.

BECKEL: Certain scenes in it I particularly liked.

GUTFELD: The opening scene?

BECKEL: Well, not just that, the middle scenes.

GUILFOYLE: Are we trying to fill time?

BOLLING: No. We could actually leave right now if we want to.

GUILFOYLE: Just curious.

BOLLING: Next on "The Five," if you're looking for freedom of speech this Christmas, stay tuned for some big news, coming straight up.

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BECKEL: The correct Santa is coming to town.

Some breaking entertainment news today. Movie goers in some states will now be able to see "The Interview" on Christmas day after all. Sony Pictures reversed its decision to release it, despite threats from hackers.

The studio announced earlier it will offer a limited release of the film starring Seth Rogen and James Franco. Rogen couldn't contain his excitement, tweeting, "The people have spoken. Freedom has prevailed.  Sony didn't give up." Thank you, George Washington.

The White House released a statement saying, "The president applauds Sony's decision."

We've kicked this around all week. They were going to, they were not going to; they were going to, they were not going to. Theaters were going to be -- the insurance companies were not going to let the theaters do it.

Eric, what happened here finally, do you think?

BOLLING: I think Sony finally took the heat -- took enough heat where they realized that they were the ones who were stifling free speech, and they decided to release the film, which they should have done in the first place.

The interesting part is that there's going to be a handful of movie theaters that are going to air the film. Good for them, I guess. It's their business decision to go ahead and do it.

The question is, once you see the movie, I guarantee, it's like, this is it?

GUTFELD: Yes.

GUILFOYLE: Right.

BOLLING: This is the big thing that was so important not to see? It's probably going to be quite a letdown.

BECKEL: Dana, let me ask you this. After a week of seeing this thing, or however many days it's been going on, what would you now stay is Sony's public relations grade after all this?

PERINO: Well, incomplete.

BECKEL: Incomplete.

PERINO: Because we don't know all the information that they had when they were making those decisions.

But when the president of the United States basically says Sony is an idiot, then you have to make a decision to do something. And maybe they felt like then the White House gave them some cover to reverse course.

But this will be, no doubt, a case study in modern crisis communications management. Because it just whipsawed in a week back and forth. But hopefully, they've come to the right conclusion.

BECKEL: Yes. Greg, you're a master of crisis communications.

GUTFELD: My life.

BECKEL: Do you think, after all is said and done, that anybody got anything positive out of this?

GUTFELD: Hmm. I don't think so. I find it interesting that the White House applauds this decision. They didn't seem to care too much about the innocent -- the "Innocence of Muslims" filmmaker.

PERINO: Absolutely true.

GUTFELD: And you would agree with me: Free speech is not about protecting mainstream movies that have big-name stars. It's about protecting crap, bad stuff, terrible movies, stupid speech, idiotic speech. It's not about Seth Rogen and James Franco. It is about the Westboro Baptist Church.  It's about that speech. It's about the "Innocence of Muslims." It's about protecting that, and we didn't protect that. We protected Seth Rogen.

BECKEL: K.G., I keep hearing this stuff about these theaters were open to lawsuits if something would have happened. Why would that be?

GUILFOYLE: Well, because if something happened, they were the direct result of some kind of terrorist act. Or who knows? God forbid, bombs.  Who knows? You know, something at the physical location, and they had advanced notice that they were under threat, then sure, people could say...

BECKEL: So that would say -- would say because of that statement that they...

GUILFOYLE: I think just because of the actual physical location.

But I want to say: This is no surprise to me. It's like North Korea's Internet service goes down. They're suddenly cut off from the Chinese telecom system. I think there was a little bit of communication between the Chinese, the United States government. Shut it down on North Korea, and then all of a sudden, the threats stop against the United States from North Korea. And then, now the film is getting released. Connect the dots. Bob, you like that?

BECKEL: I think the -- I like those dots.

BOLLING: Those great Chinese.

GUILFOYLE: Those great Chinese.

BECKEL: Classic Chinese. They did it once again. "One More Thing" is up next. Happy Thanksgiving and merry Christmas.

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GUTFELD: It's time for "One More Thing." Before we begin, make sure to tune in tomorrow night at 5 p.m. for our exciting, original Christmas special. It's beautiful.

GUILFOYLE: That's kind of nice.

GUTFELD: It does. All right. See you later. No just kidding -- Bob.

BECKEL: Yes, well, one of my favorite guys, Buzz Aldrin, who was the second man to walk on the moon, is 84 years old. He got divorced after 23 years, and now he's dating a woman who's 30 years younger than he is. But he's looking for another woman, somebody he can find his love with, his love life. And Buzz is out there looking. So at 84, you've got to give the guy credit.

I mean, so if anybody out there is looking to date the 84-year-old second man on the moon, there's Buzz and he's a nice guy. I've met him several times. You'll like him.

And then finally, I'd like to wish...

GUILFOYLE: Final. Do it.

GUTFELD: Do you know why he broke up with...?

GUILFOYLE: Finally.

GUTFELD: Do you know why he broke up with her?

BECKEL: Why?

GUTFELD: He needed his space.

BECKEL: There you go.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.

BECKEL: And finally, I'd just like to wish...

GUILFOYLE: I can't.

BECKEL: I'd like to wish a merry Christmas to my two children, Alex and McKenzie.

GUILFOYLE: Very sweet, Bob.

PERINO: Good.

GUTFELD: Dana.

PERINO: OK. So you know our co-host, Juan Williams. He fills in for Bob when Bob isn't able to be here. This is his son, Raffi Williams, who is a Republican. And John Ward, who writes for Yahoo! News -- he used to cover the White House -- wrote -- did an interview with Raffi about how it was that he ended up becoming a Republican.

And he said, "You have a combination of family values, what my parents taught me, my brother being a conservative and shepherding me along and also growing up in the 1990s in D.C., you see the dangers of big government." Is there another screen? There's another part of that. The dangers of big government -- and I can't find it, here it is.

GUILFOYLE: That's a nice picture there.

PERINO: If we have time. Anyway, now I can't find it.

The important thing is Raffi Williams is the kind of Republican that I think we're going to see a lot more of because it is people like Raffi who study the conservative movement, who think about it. They are principles.  And he's poised and gracious, and he's a great spokesman for the Republican Party.

GUILFOYLE: Maybe he should come sit here.

GUTFELD: So liberal parents create conservative kids. That's what happens.

All right, it's time for...

GUILFOYLE: Yes, it is.

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GUTFELD: Greg's Secret to Happiness. Now in Sense-O-Round.

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GUTFELD: So a brief bit of advice. When you're on the run from the law, it's important to shave your head first before you commit the crime and then carry a bunch of wigs. Not like this guy. See, what he did was he committed a crime and then he went back to shave his head so that they wouldn't recognize him. But they arrested him while he was shaving his head. So now he's in jail with a reverse Mohawk.

GUILFOYLE: And you know what? There's a jury instruction with that, called consciousness of guilt. Because I would say, "See? See what he did? He shaved his head to try to conceal his identity. Guilty."

GUTFELD: You know what? I think this is going to be a new style. I think people are going to like this. It's going to be big.

BOLLING: Jail is not going to go well for him.

GUTFELD: I know.

GUILFOYLE: He does not look happy.

GUTFELD: Who's next?

GUILFOYLE: They're going to complete the cut.

GUTFELD: K.G.

GUILFOYLE: All right. And a little bit of the Christmas spirit. Who doesn't like One Direction, right? Harry Stiles. Our female producers say little Ro-Digs looks like him.

There were on Jimmy Fallon, I think for the third time, and they've got a nice NBC special coming out. So take a look at this. This is kind of charming.

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GUILFOYLE: If you don't like that, maybe you'll like this. You can check me out from 7 to 8 tonight. Be in for Greta. Little bit of Greta, K.G. style.

GUTFELD: Excellent.

GUILFOYLE: That's all.

GUTFELD: Mr. Eric.

BOLLING: So do that. Watch K.G. on Greta at 7 to 8, and at 8 stay on O'Reilly. I'll be hosting for Bill, as well. Krauthammer is going to weigh in on a bunch of the race stuff: de Blasio, all the other stuff that's going on, and there's plenty to talk about, and the Sony hacking.

But while protesters are blocking Fifth Avenue tonight, and lights are being dimmed on the Empire State Building, I don't know. It doesn't seem like things are getting much better.

So stick around for both those shows.

GUTFELD: Yes.

BECKEL: And I'll be sitting -- I'll be sitting in for Eric on five shows in the next three days.

GUTFELD: I'll be sitting at a bar getting drunk.

No, I'm amazing the protesters are now going out and actually blocking a street where people are trying to get to the airport, trying to get home.

GUILFOYLE: Awful.

PERINO: Like Westboro.

GUTFELD: They're actually baiting the police now.

GUILFOYLE: They are.

GUTFELD: They're baiting the police, and they're going to destroy their mayor, because their mayor won't be able to defend them.

PERINO: Also, they're hurting people on the most popular -- the busiest shopping day. This is tonight, is when you go and buy all your last-minute gifts. In case you haven't bought mine yet.

GUILFOYLE: Lots of news to talk about, sounds like.

BECKEL: Special...

GUILFOYLE: On "The Five" Christmas special.

GUTFELD: Yes. Don't miss our Christmas special tomorrow night. "Special Report" up next.

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