This is a rush transcript from "The Five," September 12, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone, I'm Eric Bolling along with Andrea Tantaros, Bob Beckel, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City and this is "The Five."
The latest FBI National Threat Assessment makes zero references to Islamic terror despite incidents like the Fort Hood shooting and the Boston Bombing. And now, there's a very disturbing story out of New Jersey that we need to tell you about because it's not getting very much attention. Nineteen-year-old college student Brendan Tevlin was driving home on June 25th when he was brutally murdered by three men. And one of the men, Ali Muhammad Brown, a Muslim, said he did it as, quote, vengeance for the U.S.'s actions in the Middle East. He also admitted to three more killings in Washington State. New York radio host Todd Pettengill has been pushing this story and he said this early on "America's Newsroom."
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TODD PETTENGILL, NEW YORK RADIO HOST: Where is the outrage for a young man, 19 years old, who was killed because he was an American? That's it. This kid was murdered because he was an American. And that's where the story should begin. That's where the discussion should take place because domestic terrorism is here, it happened. Let this be the faith that America sees and knows that domestic terrorism is already here.
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BOLLING: All right. So, very quickly, Andrea, let me start with you. And those family (ph) -- they're literally -- they live a mile away from the house, first they thought it was a drug deal. But this kid was squeaky clean, he was a straight A student. Then they thought it was some sort of wondering into a gang land area and got in trouble, turns out its domestic terror.
ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: And, Eric, can I ask you, did you hear about it in your community? Because you don't live ever far outside of Manhattan, the largest epicenter for news, basic -- the largest media market in the country. You would think that this would get more coverage than one radio host bringing it to the national spotlight. But you didn't. I mean, I did research in New Jersey, this was not really covered. And again, New Jersey doesn't have a media mark. But if you look back, this killer had a history of killing three times before in Washington State. This is a very, very scary premise. And it's haunting because in the last couple of weeks, we've heard people from the administration tell us mixed messages on whether they can hit us at home. And some very high level folks in the administration saying, the threat is not direct, it's not gonna hit us here at home. We do not believe that. And I just think with the age of the internet, the way that the ISIS is using and targeting Muslims in this country or using it to radicalize these Muslims in this country is very, very scary.
BOLLING: Listen, can we bring in around do --- do you think that the administration's taking a homegrown terror threat too lightly?
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: I think, thought-- I think that the reluctance to root out this evil is based on a fear of their own making, which is Islamophobia-phobia. We're castrating ourselves by the tolerance movement. And radical Islam is using out tolerance movement as a tool to hasten our demise. And the FBI is willfully obliging -- and essentially they have us by the throat with our own political correctness. But I wanna just -- could I interest the, why the media missed this? And I include Fox News on this, we didn't talk about it, I think until yesterday. And it would have been nice if we did one less Sharpton story and one more of this Brendan story.
So, I wanna -- the most important thing I'm gonna say today, because I've been thinking about this, why do we focus on issues like race, Ray Rice, Trayvon, Ferguson while we ignore the radical Islamic threat? It's because other issues speak to a greater evil in which the media can indict all of us on. The media has been trained through their education to degrade America as flawed. So, if you are at war with radical Islam, then you cannot be at war with yourself. And that's why the media shies away from this because it doesn't follow their assumptions and their agenda, which is the pain America as internally raises in wrong.
TANTAROS: You what -- real quick. Greg, what's been sickening to me, though, is in since Ferguson, people who do speak out against radical Islam, the media would quicker target somebody like me or somebody on the news network for talking about radical Islam, than actual, the terrorist themselves. So, they're using this to go after people for speaking the truth about jihad.
BOLLING: So, Dana, let me bring you here for up until today, the Obama administration has refused to say war, use the word war when talking about ISIS and radical Islam. Today, it seemed to move a little bit. Josh Earnest said, yeah, OK, he started using the term, DOD said it as well. OK, they're telling me we're gonna get to it lot more later. But what Greg is pointing out, though, why the reluctance? Why has this not been a bigger story here?
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: I think -- you mentioned the FBI threat assessment that just came out a couple of weeks ago. The FBI for a long time has been more worried about right wing groups and extremism from riling (ph) groups and possible threats. It is interesting and disturbing, especially after the Tsarnaev brothers successfully carried out their terrorist attack on the Boston marathon. And there were so many victims, that story, we, sort of, forgotten about that. The Hasan shooting at Fort Hood, the workplace violence, sort of, had forgotten that. Then you start adding all these things up, I really credit this radio show host for bringing it back to all of our attention. And it is something that we should be very clear right about.
BOLLING: All right. Bob, so you'd said at some of point that ISIS isn't necessarily a threat to the homeland. Maybe you're saying Islamic terror isn't a threat at homeland. You disagree when you see a straight a 19-year- old, a straight A student being murder over Islamic jihad?
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: I'll be a little bit careful to draw that conclusion. I mean, that conclusion has being drawn by a radio talk show host. But there were two other people involved in that murder and neither one of them.
BOLLING: No, no. He admitted to it.
BOLLING: He said a life for a life.
GUTFELD: He also killed two gay men, which I think he's charge with a hate crime for that as well.
BECKEL: I think it falls from one of the hate crime area. But I fail to see why people, when you suggest that it's meeting to shy away from this. If we knew that this was guy who was, in fact, have planted Islamic terrorist who was out there to kill Americans, I think what you got here in the situation where the guy -- there was something else involve, or the FBI or somebody else would have said something about it.
GUTFELD: You -- I don't get, what did you say?
BECKEL: What I'm saying is that you had three people in the car...
BECKEL: ...who killed this guy. This guy, this is the main murder, right?
BECKEL: The other two guys did not claim they had anything to do with Islamic terrorism. This guys use that as an excuse, and then he killed gay guys before. This guy sounds to me more like a hate crime perpetrator than he does a home Islamic terrorist.
PERINO: I think that is growing, right? So, that's like that's the problem, that's the threat. That is the fact that they had a young woman from Colorado who was signing up for the idea to go to Syria to fight with ISIS. I mean, that -- it's that desire, as Greg would say, to be cool, which is, like, not cool when it drags you into evil. And it's possible that the other two weren't quite radical Islamists yet.
GUTFELD: Radical Islam is hate.
BOLLING: How was this a hate crime? How would you classify this that he's a radical Islam, he's killing an innocent victim for the sake of jihad. How - - I mean, that's...
BECKEL: Throwing that conclusion base on some -- he said the police...
GUTFELD: Why can't you take evil at their word? When evil tells you they're evil just accept it.
BECKEL: I think he's evil, but to suggest that this was a planned home celled guy who...
GUTFELD: He belongs to a terrorist group. He said -- in Washington he was investigated by the FBI. The FBI let this guy go.
TANTAROS: And this is the danger of radical Islam because you don't have to be part of the cell that you were just talking about to conduct acts of jihad. And the problem with calling it a hate crime is because then you treat it as a law enforcement issue, like somebody's robbing a bank, or you're conflating. And I think you're diminishing the threats of jihad which is based on a religious purpose. Which is hate, but it's very different. I do not think you can compare the two.
PERINO: Also because he's trying to make an excuse for himself, right? So, now he's busted by the cops, so he will say and hope that Islamophobia phobia will actually protect him in the prosecution.
GUTFELD: And by the way, when you use that word, I get money, because I came up with it.
PERINO: You came up with that.
BOLLING: So, let's talk about this a little bit. Bill Maher, he had some comments that may surprise you. Listen to what he had too say, this may surprise you, watch. It's loading, they tell me. They said hang on.
GUTFELD: No, he said they're loaded.
PERINO: It is Friday.
GUTFELD: Yeah. White shot.
PERINO: Well, anyway -- what Bill Maher said.
GUTFELD: Let's pretend he said something.
PERINO: Shall I read it?
BOLLING: Here we go.
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BILL MAHER, COMEDIAN: There is a connecting tissue...
CHARLIE ROSE, TV TALK SHOW HOST: It mean, you know, behind every Muslim is the future member of some radical...
MAHER: Let me finish.
ROSE: I thought I was doing that.
MAHER: There are illiberal beliefs that are held by vast numbers of Muslim people that I don't think...
ROSE: Vast number of Christians too.
MAHER: No, that's not true. Not true. Vast numbers of Christians do not believe that if you leave the Christian religion, you should be killed for it. Vast numbers of Christians do not treat women as second-class citizens. Vast numbers of Christians do not believe that if you draw a picture of Jesus Christ you should get killed for it.
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BOLLING: Greg, you wanna weigh in this issue?
GUTFELD: Well, I mean, Bill Maher, to his credits, has always been pretty vocal about this. And like Christopher Hitchens, a lot of people dismiss them because they're atheists. But Atheist have been pretty strong on radical Islam because they read up on religion and they -- well, they hate religion. And radical Islam provides them with so much evidence for hating them that he -- you know, he's right about the distinction and Rose is not.
BOLLING: And, Bob, a surprising defense of Christianity from, as Greg points out, an Atheist. Who's been active on that.
BECKEL: Well, yeah. But, I mean, it's also obvious. I mean, I take second to none as attacking the Muslims as you know I've been doing this for months and months and months now. So, I don't wanna be (inaudible) here as well.
TANTAROS: Yeah. Make sure you say radical or else, look out.
BECKEL: Listen, I think it's also fair to say I have received a lot more threats about this. But the fact is, we have all kept silent, and as the media, for whatever reason, political correctness or whatever. But, more say as obvious, it's not a religion, no other religions I know of punishes people by killing them because they take another believe (ph). Not one. So, he's exactly right. They are a religion of -- that at least gives a basis for somebody if they want to hate to hate.
GUTFELD: Some religions have been there before, but on this bell curve, this evolution, you know, we were there once and then we got out of it. And we keep thinking maybe they can domesticate this part of their religion. We keep hoping.
BOLLING: Yeah. And can they?
TANTAROS: I don't think so. I think this has been going on a little too long. I do think it's interesting. Bill Maher has been very outspoken about Islam on multiple, multiple fronts at multiple times with Ayan Hersy Ali, the Boko Haram kidnapping. Back in the spring, it was Bill Maher who came out and said Islam is the problem. He said all religions, because he is an atheist, and he thinks most religion are flawed -- are a problem he said, but especially this one and he went on to outline the problems with Islam. It's a very different message than we see coming from the administration, which you hear is a shared history of tolerance between Islam and Christianity, trying to compare the two. What Maher said is right on target. What's upsetting is we've spent, as Greg said, how many weeks talking about Ferguson, which was a tragedy. But how many weeks and hours did we obsess on cable news over that thing and you don't even hear the story about the boy in New Jersey. I think we need heads examine in this country.
BOLLING: Dana, your thoughts?
PERINO: I don't have too much to add to that, except for listening to Bill Maher. I think it reminded me of these three basic tenants that I try to think about in terms of Christianity, which is forgiveness, grace and being nonjudgmental. Those are three things that inform and drive Christians for the most part, I think. And in the Muslim world, I do think there are some places where it is working fairly well. I wouldn't agree with all. I'm not saying that there's not abuse in places like Indonesia or the UAE. But there certainly have been advances in some societies that are actually doing fairly well. One of the huge problems, Eric, is one about -- on the economy. Which is if you look at -- just in terms of countries that file patents, right, for new innovations, exciting things, almost nothing out of the Muslim world, and I think that that continued problem of them being behind on economic front has fueled a lot of them more, the hate and the anger, and the hopelessness that then leads to terrorism.
BOLLING: They're more fueled and turned down by the jihad than they are about inventing things and coming up with new products. One though out there. 1.3 Billion Muslim in the world, let's just say 10 percent of them are radical, which is probably a very low number. That puts a 130 million. And then take 10 percent of that which is a low number that would probably kill for the sake of jihad. You're talking 13 million radicals that would kill. I think we've got to stop playing around with what we call them, how we call the. When we find them and we see them, we kill them. And you're gonna throw in there, Bob.
BECKEL: No. What I was gonna say is about the Koran. That Koran is a good book that can be interpreted many different ways by many different people. There are those radicals who interpret what Mohammad was supposed to say in a way that is so radical and so far out of the main stream of how most Muslims think. But nonetheless, the Koran will give them some verification of what they do if you read it the way they read it.
GUTFELD: You know -- can I -- what Dana said about how -- the tenants of Christianity, you said less judgmental, that could almost be translated to someone who is a Muslim as being less religious, that the whole point of religion is to judge. And if you -- and they are...
PERINO: Well, Christians don't judge each other, you leave the judgment up to the Lord.
GUTFELD: But they are judging you. They are judging you. But -- I guess the point is, religion at its purist is about judgment and they look at you as an infidel to your own religion because you are -- if you're not judgmental, you are not religious. So in a way, the safer you are, is the further you get away from your own...
BOLLING: We need to go. Can I just push back a little bit on that? That I agree that in the Islam religion, in the book, they are by definition judgmental?
BOLLING: However, Christianity will tell you.
GUTFELD: There are these commandments.
BOLLING: Christianity will tell you to forgive, judge and then forgive.
PERINO: Pastor Bolling...
BOLLING: ...crossed on the way out. Next, more mixed signals from the administration on whether or not we are at war with ISIS, we'll try to make sense of all that and later, it's Facebook Friday. You know the drill, send us your questions at facebook.com/thefivefnc, we'll get to those.
TANTAROS: Welcome back to The Five. Sorry, Bob. Don't mean to interrupt. So, are we at war with ISIS? If you ask Secretary of State John Kerry, White House National Security Advisor Susan Rice, or Deputy State Department Spokeswoman Marie Harf, they say this.
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JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: If somebody wants to think about it as being a war with ISIL, they can do so. But the fact is, it's a major counter terrorism campaign.
SUSAN RICE, WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR: I don't know why you wanna call it a war or sustain counter terrorism campaign.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Help me with term war on terrorism, is that something that's out of the lection (ph) now of the U.S. government's comments on what's happening?
MARI HARF, DEPUTY STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESWOMAN: Well, certainly not how I would refer to our efforts.
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TANTAROS: But if you ask the White House or the Pentagon, it's this.
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JOHN KIRBY, PENTAGON SPOKESMAN: Make no mistake. We know we are at war with ISIL in the same way we are at war and continue to be at war with al Qaeda and its affiliates.
JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: The United State is at war with ISIL in the same way that we are at war with al Qaeda and its al Qaeda affiliates all around the globe.
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TANTAROS: so, are we at war or are we not at war? And Dana, I'm going to go to you on this one because a couple of weeks ago, Rick Grenell was one Outnumbered.
GUTFELD: Can't stand him.
TANTAROS: No, I know. And he said that the administration was being deliberately confusing and sending out mixed messages on the threat of ISIS and whether or not we're at war and whether or not they are a threat to us here at home. Do you think that there's a deliberate effort to confuse? So they can say well, we said it here, but we didn't say it here? Will that make sense?
PERINO: I guess if I were the White House, I might claim that it was deliberate so that it didn't look so hand handed, that might be something I would do. Here's the thing I would have done and we do it this tonight at the White House. Forget your Friday night plans. Everybody in my office at 6:00, Am I going to have the same language. But that language has to come from the top. So, the global war on terror, that language, it was strong, it was definitive and it was very clear. OK, we know what we're doing, we are at war, a global war on terror, this is a long war, we're gonna hit -- hit you where we cannot gonna just do pin prick strikes here and there against ISIL or the al-Shabaab.
I think that it is clear to me that the speech that the president gave on Wednesday night was definitely at least a week too early, it needed to bake in the oven for another seven days so that they can everybody on the same page, because it is not exactly projects strength. What the president was trying to do Wednesday night was to stop the slide in the polls. But they've done every day since, every hour since then. It just looks so confusing. I want to follow, I wanna support, but you've got to give me something to hold on to. It cannot be -- it morphs us -- it actually has to be something that I can look at, understand and believe. I don't know what to believe, although I would tend to think that the White House now settling on war, that that what we should say, that that's what we're doing.
TANTAROS: President Obama said that we're not at war with radical Islam. He said there was no war on terror in 2013 Memorial Day. So, Greg, to Dana's point, the commander-in-chief has sent mixed messages, so maybe that's why the administration can't seem to their messages straight, because the president couldn't even tell us the other night that we are at war with Islam.
GUTFELD: If I were president Obama, I would employ a golf term and let others play through. Maybe the tray is behind him and he could come aboard. This guy has created more vacuums than Hoover, which is why we're in trouble now. They are more obsessed, this administration is more obsessed with words than actions and that's because they're the product of a media academic complex. Well, words always matter, symbolism always matter. It's not the action. Talking heads and government hacks always say that they're war weary, but it's the troops that say we signed on for this and the military's actually OK if they don't get it. Did it everybody occur to them that the troops see this enemy, they actually see it and they're ready for it, and they're OK if President Obama doesn't get it, they're OK.
TANTAROS: Next question is can we degrade and destroy ISIS without boots on the ground. Our Pentagon Producer Justin Fishel asked this at the briefing today.
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JUSTIN FISHEL, FOX NEWS PENTAGON PRODUCER: Do military commanders really believe that's ISIS can be defeated or destroyed with U.S. air power alone and without sending U.S. combat troops, or U.S. troops in the field to laze this targets?
KIRBY: The short answer to your question Justin is yes. We have been conducting air strikes now for a number of weeks. They have helped provide some space and support to Iraqi security forces on the ground. We've been able to do these very effective and we know we're having a tactical effect on ISIL and we have been able to do that without quote, unquote, combat boots on the ground.
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TANTAROS: But some people aren't so sure, including Former CIA Covert Officer Mike Baker.
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MIKE BAKER, FORMER CIA COVERT OFFICER: It's not going to work. Air strikes alone are not going to cut it. Somebody's got to get boots on the ground, apparently nobody is willing to do that.
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TANTAROS: OK, Eric. So, the administration we learn underestimated this threat if ISIS again. They have far more troops almost 30,000 than they estimate with about 12,000 to 15,000. So the question is, with President Obama's Plan, can he decimate ISIS quicker than they're recruiting, which at a very, very high faith because they declared in June they have a caliphate, which is motivating more young Muslims to join. Can we do that?
BOLLING: I hope so. I'm hoping that he, like I have said here instead of 138 air strikes over 31 days, we should do 130 a day for 30 days and see what happens before we commit American boots on the ground. I would love to see Saudi boots on the ground in the area, I'd like to even to see Turkish boots on the ground, I like support the Kurds, the Pershmerga. I'd like to see other boots and pants on the ground, they'll be fine, too, whatever it takes. But I don't want to see America -- just not yet. I'm not convince that we have to do this. By the way, I'm not convince we will ever eradicate Islamic -- Islamic Extremist. I mean, their point is, push them back in -- push them back into Syria.
BECKEL: This is the whole point. They're not gonna get completely eradicated. There's got to be around -- it's -- but the other question about the war versus counter-terrorism. What did -- I'd borrow an old phrase, what difference does it make?
PERINO: Please say that again.
BECKEL: I will. What difference does it make? I mean, we would be doing nothing differently militarily if we called it a war.
GUTFELD: There is a difference.
BECKEL: Well, Ok. You guys said...
GUTFELD: Just go ahead, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
BECKEL: ...if we have a disagreement. I know we borrowed this from the last administration.
TANTAROS: But, Bob, do you think that president would have even given an address, had there not been two beheadings of American journalists.
BECKEL: Do I believe that? I don't know, probably not.
TANTAROS: Probably not.
BECKEL: But I can tell you this. I don't -- what's going on today, what wars are going out are no different than whatever what you want to call it. The other question is, can we drive them back? I think yes, we can drive them back and we have a precedence for this, the Balkans, we won through the air, we can win here through the air.
PERINO: Look, we have to be honest about what's been happening on the left in the last couple of days. This increased alarm that oh, my gosh, the president of the United States, we believed and we took there to get us out of war is actually taking us back into war. They also recognize that's because of decision that were made before our lack of decision that were made -- not made. I also would just advice the White House and the administration, they've got to stop trying to win the news cycle. They need to think a little bit further ahead. And so, that's why they need to hire a paranoid right winger to sit in a basement of the west wing and to read these speeches, to look over the talking points.
BOLLING: It's me.
TANTAROS: I'm gonna do it.
BOLLING: I'm available.
PERINO: And just to let them know, this is the trap you are setting for yourself if you are not solid on what difference it makes between war and counter-terrorism.
TANTAROS: We got to go, Bob.
BECKEL: Why would start asking these questions, just let it go.
GUTFELD: Because they're -- it's like watching Saturday Night Live when you watch them talk, they can't make sense of what they're saying.
BECKEL: Do you think it's gonna change anything they're doing?
GUTFELD: It's sad, pathetic and it embarrasses me.
PERINO: I thought that was supposed to be such brilliant communicators.
BOLLING: What do you say to the military, our young people who are there, risking -- what do you think they'd rather hear? That we're at war with the people that are shooting back at them, or that we're, kind of, you know, some counter terrorism.
BECKEL: I think the boat is aboard (ph), I don't think a much...
TANTAROS: I'm just wondering, if you're not Islamic and you're not a state, why the president wouldn't give that speech about Hamas. Don't you think that's a bit of hypocrisy there?
GUTFELD: Obama's like a tourist that unfolded a map in the rain and can't get it back.
TANTAROS: All right. Coming up on The Five, you're not gonna believe this. Several women supporting Ray Rice's jersey with the big number 27 at the Ravens game last night. Some of them even blaming his victim, the wife. We'll hear from them when we come back.
BECKEL: Strange place to be, to see (ph) last night in Baltimore. It was the Baltimore Ravens versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. But the big story was Ray Rice's controversy, and believe it or not, lots of women were probably -- were proudly, excuse me, wearing his jersey. One of them even blames his wife for the abuse.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm making a statement and, you know, I totally -- I don't believe in domestic violence. But I will say, any woman who can hit a man, a man shouldn't have to sit there and take the abuse. The abuse goes both ways.
As a woman, she shouldn't have hit him. If I hit you, I would expect you to hit me back. And that's just how that goes.
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BECKEL: Glad you didn't ask me that question.
CBS anchor James Brown had a different take and said this before the game.
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JAMES BROWN, CBS ANCHOR: Let's be clear, this problem is bigger than football.
Whether Jenay Rice considers herself a victim or not, millions of women in this country are. So this is yet another call to men to stand up and take responsibility for their thoughts, their words, their deeds. And as Deion says, to give help or to get help, because our silence is deafening and deadly.
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BECKEL: Andrea, how do you read what these women were -- and there weren't just one of them; there were several of them. Right? What do you think that's about?
TANTAROS: They're drunk, maybe, or stupid or both. I mean, I don't know. That's not something I would say. I mean, they're entitled to their opinion. They clearly love the Baltimore Ravens. What's the saying, "Don't hate the player, hate the game?" I love the game; I hate the player. And that's my position, and that -- that's what I would do if I were a Ravens fan.
But clearly, these women, I guess they don't have daughters, because if they did, I would ask them, "Would you let your daughter date Ray Rice?" Just wondering.
BECKEL: I thought James Brown was quite good, Eric, when he did -- when he did that statement. And CBS actually played the whole thing for you.
BOLLING: You know why they did that? Because they had to hold the film, because they initially had Rihanna, who was going to perform right before that game. And they decided not to do that, which was a wise choice.
Here -- here's the thing. Ray Rice admitted to punching his fiancee in the face in the elevator, and these women are wearing Ray Rice jerseys. There's absolutely -- I'm going to end here, but there's absolutely no reason to do that. I don't care if you like Ray Rice or not. Don't show support for a man who punches a woman in the face, ever.
BECKEL: Well, Dana, this brings the question, about back to all this controversy we've had. It turns out, at least according to sources, that Ray Rice did tell Goodell in the meeting with him that, in fact, he did hilt his wife. And yet he still ended up with a fairly moderate infraction, number of games that he was suspended for. Is Goodell now back on the hot seat in this?
PERINO: I think so. I think that any -- every single day that they can't finding a resolution to this, but they can't find a resolution to it until they know exactly what happened. They did know about it if Rice told them and they only decided to take additional action after the videotape surfaced. It's no wonder people feel very cynical about this situation.
BECKEL: And Greg, I know this is on the top of your list today, your birthday, that you're worried about, what's happening in the NFL. What do you think?
GUTFELD: Has everyone officially weighed in on this issue. Has the pope weighed in yet?
PERINO: Not yet.
GUTFELD: Have we got a psychic to contact Joan Rivers? Because she might have something to say.
I'm actually getting a little -- I think this -- in this, like, lazy Susan of issues that we go through, we prioritize everything at the same level. This is not the same story as the abuse that are given to women in other countries. In Arabic countries, what ISIS has done.
So this -- I wish James Brown -- James Brown shouldn't indict all men. That's idiotic. He's like the TSA that has to search everybody? No, you should be indicting the beaters. He doesn't indict all men.
And interesting fact here, and this is a fact that the media will not talk about. OK? This -- we infect every story with race. Wherever it is, it's race. But not in this story.
This is an interesting fact. Black males experience intimate partner violence at a rate about 62 percent higher than of white males and about 22 times the rate of men in other races. That's from the Department of Justice, from Intimate Partner Violence 2007. But no one's going to talk about that, because it's too hard.
So the easy stuff is to come out and yell how awful it is. It is awful; we get it.
BOLLING: Can I throw something in there very quick? It's called a really, really deep tease. Tonight, 8 p.m., "O'Reilly Factor," I'm hosting. I have the A.P. reporter who broke this story wide open. He's going to sit down with me, I'm going to ask him all these questions.
BECKEL: All right, ahead on "The Five," time for some fun. "Facebook Friday" is up next, and it's a big day for my pal, Greg Gutfeld.
GUTFELD: That's my name. Good job.
BECKEL: I got that right.
PERINO: It's "Facebook Friday." You've got questions; we've got answers. We don't have much time, so we're going to go first. Andrea, from George H.: "What is your favorite movie?"
TANTAROS: "Legally Blonde."
PERINO: Oh, I like that movie.
GUTFELD: Gee whiz. Wonderful. Have a movie night.
PERINO: To Andrea, from Robert K.: "What is the craziest, scariest, most thrilling thing you've experienced?"
TANTAROS: That I wish to share with America?
PERINO: Yes, that you can say at 5 p.m. Live television.
TANTAROS: Thrilling experience.
GUTFELD: That weekend with Bob.
TANTAROS: Yes, let's just say that. The weekend with Bob.
PERINO: You went and got pedicures together.
TANTAROS: Yes. And then we brushed each other's hair and listened to Whitney Houston.
PERINO: All right, Bob. This is from Kevin S.: "If you had to be trapped on an elevator overnight with one of your co-hosts, which one would it be and why?"
TANTAROS: That's a great question.
BECKEL: I really can't answer that question. I really can't. That's putting me in a terrible spot.
GUTFELD: Pick Juan.
PERINO: Come on, do it.
BECKEL: OK, Andrea.
GUTFELD: OK, that's nice.
BECKEL: Because Dana's not going to be around.
PERINO: What do you mean?
TANTAROS: What's that supposed to be mean?
BECKEL: I'm only kidding. I didn't want to answer this question. That's ridiculous.
BOLLING: Did you get that?
GUTFELD: I don't know.
PERINO: I think I got that. All right.
Bob, you've got another question from Rita P.: "You have a brother that's conservative. What is he doing these days?"
BECKEL: He's still being conservative. He's actually got a new -- he's in a new -- one of those serious things that...
PERINO: A television series.
BECKEL: A television series, and he's doing well. And he's continued to build his right-wing base out there. And like Eric, he wants to run for office someday. And Eric's going to run, and my brother's going to run.
TANTAROS: Would you work on his campaign?
PERINO: That's not true. I bet you would.
TANTAROS: That's not nice.
GUTFELD: He's a great actor.
BECKEL: I love my brother. He's a great actor. He should stay being an actor.
PERINO: All right. Eric from Generoso S.: "Is it in your contract that you don't have to wear a tie?"
BOLLING: No, it's not in the contract, but I did come over here from CNBC, and we sat down with Roger Ailes, and we talked, had a discussion. And before I left the office, I said, "Hey, Boss, what about this, this tie?"
He goes, "OK, Bolling, no tie but only you." So no...
TANTAROS: You have a no-tie clause in your contract.
BOLLING: It's not in the contract, but it's kind of understood.
PERINO: I like that.
GUTFELD: I have a no-clause tie.
TANTAROS: You have no -- you tried to get no pants in your contract.
PERINO: All right.
GUTFELD: I have an all chaps -- all chaps contract. I wear chaps all...
TANTAROS: Only leather.
PERINO: I feel sorry for that "Red Eye" crew.
OK. Eric from Sandy N.: "I love the show 'Tyrant.' You are the only person I know who mentions it. What in particular do you like about it?"
BOLLING: I love it. Because it tracks real life. I mean, they use a fictitious Islamic country, where there's a dictatorship that flips. And there's a struggle between is it going to be another dictatorship? Is it going to be a democracy?
It is so real and down -- by the way, I think it's filmed in Israel, if I'm not mistaken.
PERINO: They had to move it, though.
BOLLING: And they did move it. But wow, is this thing -- it's dramatic. It's dramatic; it's good, and it tracks real life. Love that show.
BASH: OK, Greg from Barbara N.: "Were you always." She asking a serious question. Were you always good looking or did you ever go through an ugly age?"
GUTFELD: Check the e-mail. It's from Greg.Gutfeld@Happyfeet.org. That's me.
No, I used to be a fitness freak. I was like all ripped and stuff. And then I woke up.
TANTAROS: You were a gym rat?
GUTFELD: I was a gym rat. Three hours every night.
GUILFOYLE: Did you oil up?
GUTFELD: No, I never oiled up. I did two in the morning and one after when I worked at "Men's Health."
TANTAROS: Did you tan?
GUTFELD; Yes, I tanned an awful lot.
BOLLING: Did you shave the chest?
GUTFELD: Never shaved. I like hair. I'm a Brillo pad.
PERINO: Also asking "How did you celebrate your 21st birthday compared to how you will be celebrating your birthday today?"
GUTFELD: I threw up in a bar called Bertolli's in Oakland. And I remember, after having five triple mai tais, which was 75 cents each back in 1980-what, four, five, six. Back in '85. Eighty-five, yes, I was on my hands and knees, and then I fell asleep on the sidewalk and was babbling something.
BECKEL: Which part of that are you going to do tonight?
TANTAROS: I was going to say, how is this different from your other birthdays?
GUTFELD: That's the beauty, nothing ever changes, except whatever comes out of my mouth.
PERINO: We're going to hold my questions for another time.
GUTFELD: Oh, come on. Do it.
PERINO: No, we have to have time. It's Greg's birthday and he's going to tell you what it's like for him to turn the big 5-0 next.
GUTFELD: So 1964 was noted for its world's fair. It took place here in America, as an inspirational event that expressed the hope that we held for the future and earth and all Americans. Then I was born. September 12, 1964. Yes, today I'm 50. But I prefer to see myself as two 25-year-olds; twins, actually, muscular, interposing. That's how I describe myself on Craigslist.
So do I have any advice about hitting 50? Spend a day pretending you're 60 for just one day. When you go to bed, remind yourself you're 50. Suddenly, you're 10 years younger. It's great.
But back to 1964. Back then we were battling communism while the left undermined us, and we struggled to keep our allies. We forged ahead and crushed doctrines that gave us mass murderers.
Today we are battling radical Islam while the left undermines us and we struggle to keep our allies. How can we not see the parallels?
But ill we forge ahead and win? We've never been more alone on the world stage and we've never had a leader less interested in this battle. Maybe it's too late. Since '64, we've subverted so much of our system, we are running out of a system to subvert. These days it's the right that's subversive, because we are trying to subvert the subverters.
If we don't stop these adolescent kooks so bent on fundamental change, we're going to be subverted to the point that we capsize and sink, which I'm not sure President Jarrett would be displeased with.
So is it great to be 50? Yes, but it's better to be deadly.
Somber advice, Bob. Bob, any advice on enjoying this decade?
BECKEL: Yes, first of all, let me -- on behalf of my fellow members of "The Five" and yours, I to be the first to present you with your AARP (ph) card.
GUTFELD: Oh, awesome.
BECKEL: Let me tell you what this comes with. Now first of all, these are all the things, all the coupons you can use. You get Kellogg's off. You get Avis cut. You get on the train. Macy's.
GUTFELD: I live there.
BECKEL: And listen to this, Greg, here's the big deal. You get free Dunkin' Donuts with a purchase of a large or extra-large doughnut. Save 25 percent on a budget Rent-a-Car. You don't drive. Free (UNINTELLIGIBLE), which you definitely need. Walgreens traveling busses. And you get 50 cents off lunch every day at Outback Steakhouse.
GUTFELD: It's great being old. It's great being old.
PERINO: My mom likes it. She uses all of those things.
BECKEL: Put that right in your pocket and it can carry you forever. And you can be at Motel 6s, check in early, and they give you free quarters for the bed to move.
GUTFELD: Yes, that's awesome.
PERINO: How do you know that?
TANTAROS: Don't ask. I'm sorry, I didn't ask.
BECKEL: OK. So that's my advice. My advice is it's the best decade you can spend in the world.
GUTFELD: Eric, you're closing in on 60 now.
BOLLING: Last year, Bob gave me that stupid AARP card.
GUTFELD: That's right.
BOLLING: And I cut it in half and threw it away.
PERINO: You get the magazine at home?
PERINO; I bet you do.
BOLLING: If I do, I don't know. I've never seen it.
GUTFELD: You know, that's a centerfold now.
BOLLING: Stop sending me that magazine. I don't want it.
GUTFELD: It's the American Association of Rad People.
BOLLING: Fifty really bothered me.
GUTFELD: Really? It's weird, I don't like it.
BOLLING: You're into this thing. And I'm not sure...
GUTFELD: I'm kind of done. I've seen it all. I'm finished.
TANTAROS: How do you feel today?
GUTFELD: I feel like, OK, I did what I wanted to do. Now you know...
PERINO: Are you kidding me?
PERINO: You've got more. You've got like 12 books left in you, a great show.
GUTFELD: No, no, no.
BOLLING: You don't know what he's trying to promote.
TANTAROS: I think of you as an 18-year-old with 32 years' experience.
GUTFELD: I like that.
TANTAROS: And your pocket catheter I got you is right outside your office with a big bow on it.
GUTFELD: Back to the ad. What's in the ad.
BOLLING: That's a 50 right there. I didn't realize that.
GUTFELD: That's a 50 made of meat, because I don't eat sweets, but they can't take a wide shot. And they have -- Dana, they have gherkins. And you'll like those, because they're tiny pickles.
TANTAROS: Can we use your Outback discount, Grandpa?
GUTFELD: I'll take everybody out for an early bird.
PERINO: I like the early bird special.
GUTFELD: Of course you do.
PERINO: I love that.
GUTFELD: Yes. Yes.
PERINO: I would eat there.
BECKEL: Keep this in mind. My advice is you can do one thing once better than you could ever do it six times before, it feels better. Try to guess.
GUTFELD: I'm not going to guess, because he scares me. All right, "One More Thing's" up next.
BOLLING: Time for "One More Thing." Greg kicks it off.
GUTFELD: I'm not a big guy about presents. I really don't them; in fact, I hate presents. But my manager, Eric Webb, who is a great friend of mine -- he was my publisher at Stuff magazine -- got me this. Look at that thing. It's a refurbished old typewriter. And I found it on my desk this morning when I went to work. Go down a bit. Show the beautiful...
PERINO: Smith Corona.
GUTFELD: Look at this. It's Smith Corona.
PERINO: It has "The Price is Right."
GUTFELD: Yes, isn't it great? Isn't it beautiful?
PERINO: The Price is Right.
GUTFELD: And it does work. It does work.
BOLLING: That's a beautiful -- that's a nice gift.
GUTFELD: I'm going to lose it in a bar tonight.
BOLLING: Happy 50th. All right. So it's Friday and so time for...
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GRAPHIC: Fool of the Week.
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BOLLING: There's massive backlash on everything going on with domestic violence. Take a look at this young, this Mr. Jerry -- not young. Mr. Jerry Richardson. He's the owner of the Carolina Panthers. Look what he had to say Wednesday.
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JERRY RICHARDSON, OWNER, CAROLINA PANTHERS: When it comes to domestic -- domestic violence, my stance is not one of indifference. I stand firmly against domestic violence, plain and simple.
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BOLLING: Mr. Richardson's tears might be believable if Mr. Richardson didn't play his star player last Sunday, who was convicted of domestic violence, and if he doesn't play him this coming Sunday, which he said he's going to play him.
Stop crying like a baby, Mr. Richardson. Bench your star. He's been convicted already. And that makes you the "Fool of the Week."
OK. So Dana, you're up.
PERINO: OK. Decidedly not the fool of the week, Dierks Bentley, who was in Virginia last night. And Eric, I thought you would like this.
BOLLING: Oh, my gosh.
PERINO: L. Bauer (ph) -- I think that's -- it's her name on Twitter -- she was at the concert last night in Virginia. She got a chance to have a picture with Dierks Bentley. And they did your favorite, "The Five."
PERINO: So congratulations. His song, "Drunk on a Plane," is No. 1. And I think he plays somewhere tomorrow.
BOLLING: Oh, boy.
PERINO: Not in the city. That's like too far away.
BOLLING: You should go to that.
GUTFELD: Camp outside.
BOLLING: All right, Bobby, you're up.
BECKEL: I've got to finish. I can't do it. I pass.
BOLLING: OK. Ands, you're up.
TANTAROS: OK. This morning, I had the honor of going to the Ride to Recovery. Macy's sponsors it. It's a wonderful organization. You all should check it out. They biked from Massachusetts, from Boston down to New York City. It's for wounded veterans, and they do a number of different races all across America. It's a wonderful, wonderful charity.
And a special thanks to -- yes, and I'm in the back, too, in the helmet and my Spandex. Not really. Wonderful thanks to Macy's for organizing it. RidetoRecovery.com.
BOLLING: Fantastic. That's a great cause, too. Great "One More Thing," you guys.
That's it for us. But a quick programming note: our pal Kennedy has a big special tonight on FOX Business. It's called "The Sharing Economy," and it starts at 9 p.m. She sends -- I'm sorry, she spends the day as a lift driver. I think that's an uber type driver.
TANTAROS: That's got to be hilarious.
BOLLING: And gets into a huge spat with, ready? Anthony Weiner.
BOLLING: You're not going to want to miss that.
Have a great weekend, everybody. "Special Report" on deck. See you then.
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