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Holder claims 'racial animus' fuels some Obama opposition

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," July 14, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling, along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Bob Beckel, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld.

It's 5 o'clock in New York City. This is "The Five."

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BOLLING: Well, our southern border is being flooded with illegals bringing disease, crime, and a huge price tag. The Obama administration is in knee-deep in another crisis. And history has shown when they have their backs against the wall, the president and his minions distract, deflect and change the debate.

What better way to change the debate than to play the race card, right? On cue, yesterday, Eric Holder played the race card. You know what? Eric Holder played the whole darn race card deck.

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ERIC HOLDER, U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL: There's a certain level of vehemence, it seems to me, that's directed at me, directed at the president. You know, people talk about taking the country back. It seems to me that this president has been treated differently than others. There's a certain racial component to this for some people. These are racial animus.

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BOLLING: So, you're either with them or you're racist, right? Not so fast. Take a listen to regular folks from Obama's hometown Chicago who, let's just say, aren't too happy with him either.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: President Barack needs to pay attention to Chicago.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do something for our children. Have the same love for these young people like you got for the ones across the border.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President, we're asking for you. You're spending billions of dollars in Texas, but we got a problem here in Chicago.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You will probably go down as the worst president ever elected.

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BOLLING: So what now? Those people are racist or let me guess, I'm a racist because I just played those sound bytes?

K.G., deflect, change the debate, use the race card.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Yes. You know, I just think that this is such a weak argument. The fact that the attorney general continues to go to this, any time there's a challenge to the president, there appears to be a failure in leadership or crisis situation. They pivot and their only recourse is to basically call hard working American people racist.

It's very divisive. I don't think it's helping anybody and I think it reflects poorly on the president. I don't think the attorney general is doing the president any favors with saying these things.

BOLLING: But what you do think of this? Divide and conquer. I mean, why else would he start with the race stuff now?

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: He's trolling us. This is about the sixth or seventh time he's said this. He's often asked this question.

He's not a broken record. He's like a doll. You pull the string and he says the same thing. He's actually Obama's doll because he's allowed to say things that Obama doesn't. He speaks for him.

What's interesting here is he did that in England, which I find a little troubling, because he's somewhere else and you already have very little media there that loves an American to fulfill the European assumptions about America, which is exactly what he did. I lived in England for awhile. They love the idea of the red neck stereotype, that we're a bunch of recalcitrant racist. And he just fed into that.

The fact is Holder said he wants an honest dialogue about race and he claimed that we were cowards because we didn't want it. But his dialogue comes down to he says you're racist. You say I agree.

He called us a nation of cowards, but he -- he is the coward. He's a wuss. He's a wimp. Because the only way he can have a debate is to call you a name, like I just did and then run.

He's never actually had the debate. Have you ever seen him have a debate? He smears you and then he clears.

BOLLING: You make a very good point, though.

Dana, why is Eric Holder, the attorney general, the highest law enforcer in the land having this debate?

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: I believe this is his true perception. I think that this is how he actually feels. So, there's no amount of logic or anything that we can say that is going to change his mind. And so, that's why I think, yes, if he continues to say that because it keeps all of us agitated.

GUTFELD: Yes.

PERINO: That -- well, how can he think that we're a racist? We're not racist. We're mad about this. And he doesn't really care what we think.

GUTFELD: And that validates -- because if you get angry, he -- that's the "oh, see? I told you."

PERINO: I think he also, however, even in those -- if that is his perception, I do think that they have miscalculated about their choice of words and how divisive they have actually become. And that is why I think they've had a harder time getting even just a few people to work with them on a few things in Washington. That he more you think this is the perfect opportunity for them to reach out and to try to solve something, be partners with the governors in the border state, they take more swipes. So, I don't know what we can do about it but wait it out.

BOLLING: Can I offer yet another reason for Eric Holder saying this, Bob? Maybe it's the whole, you know, from crisis to crisis, there's this buffer period when you have to change the debate a little bit until the next thing bubbles up. This, in my opinion, could be Eric Holder saying, hey, OK, we did the border thing for a week, let's move on to the next thing, nothing to see here anymore.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Can I quote accurately what he said?

BOLLING: Sure.

BECKEL: "There's a certain racial component to this for some people."

Now maybe you should use "very few people," but I agree with him completely. There are certain segment, they are very small, who don't like Barack Obama because they are racist. Have you believe this country has no racist --

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GUILFOYLE: What did this have to do with anything?

BECKEL: Because you guys are making it sound like everybody who is not black.

GUILFOYLE: No, but find your five people you're pinning your whole argument on.

BECKEL: You said hardworking people. That's not what we talked about. He said --

GUILFOYLE: How do you know, Bob? Did he give you a list of the people that he's claiming, the one that has the racial animus in this country?

BECKEL: Some people --

PERINO: If it's that few people, why is he having such a hard time achieving his agenda?

GUTFELD: That's the point. The point is, any time that there's a resistance to an agenda, the race card comes up. So, maybe he's only talking about a few people, but a lot of a few people because it keeps coming up.

If you have a problem with Obamacare, you are racist. If you're talking about the border, you are racist. If you're pissed about the IRS, you are racist. If you're upset about the V.A., you are racist. If you're upset about Bow Bergdahl, you're racist.

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GUTFELD: Is there anything you can be upset about and not be racist - -

BECKEL: So, that makes everybody at this table a racist then?

BOLLING: According to --

GUILFOYLE: According to Eric Holder.

BOLLING: That was the intro, Bob. If you don't agree with them, you all be racists.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, it's true. So, I'm a racist Puerto Rican woman, I love this.

BECKEL: You think they would consider all of you racists?

PERINO: I think deep down, they probably do.

BOLLING: Let's put it this way. Deep down they probably do. I'm going to go on the limb and say most of the people on this table have at least been included in an article pointing at racism at one point or another.

GUTFELD: Of course.

BOLLING: I know I have -- I don't speak for every one else. Maybe not you, but I certainly have.

GUTFELD: I have called you a racist.

BOLLING: Right. The point is, but why now? Why is Eric Holder --

GUILFOYLE: Why is he saying it Bolling? Because guess what --

BOLLING: Because the border is killing them.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, and he's head of the Justice Department? Whatever happened to justice being color blind, Mr. Holder? This is so inappropriate as the head of the Justice Department for him to continually be making these kind of statements and he's not helping the president by doing this. It looks like President Barack Obama can't stand up for himself.

BECKEL: You think there are no racists in America?

GUILFOYLE: I didn't say that. Do not twist my word. That is not.

BOLLING: How is that the discussion?

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BOLLING: We're talking about Eric Holder, why he's talking about racism. Can I throw something out here? He's getting heat from President Obama and his border. He's getting heat from the left.

Listen to Representative Luis Gutierrez from Illinois, a Democrat.

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REP. LUIS GUTIERREZ (D), ILLINOIS: I wish he would have gone down to Texas. You know, I think of him going down to Texas and I try to compare it. It's almost like, I don't know, if I went on vacation to San Juan, Puerto Rico, and my wife's aunt was ill in the hospital and I stayed on the beach.

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BOLLING: Yes. Greg, he goes on to say how would I look if I was drinking pina colada on the beach? It's kind of what's going on with the border.

GUTFELD: Yes. Well, I think Obama was being honest when he said there were 57 states, because I think he was including all of Central America. He didn't know it at the time.

But, you know, people on the other stations are painting this as people leaving persecution. They are leaving countries that have extreme property, no jobs, no water, no toilet paper, but it's not caused by these incredible street gangs. It's caused by leftism. They are not fleeing persecution. They are fleeing the policies and ideology that liberals in the America embrace.

We should -- I would take ten of these kids in exchange for one progressive professor because he made that bed. He made the bed in Central America. They should lie in it.

PERINO: They glorified it.

GUTFELD: Yes.

GUILFOYLE: They've got to go about it the right way, right? And they are fleeing these countries with poor economies and no water and all kinds of infrastructure problems. Thank God I hope they don't put them in parts of Chicago and Detroit, because it's not going to be --

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GUILFOYLE: Of course, I did. That's my point.

BECKEL: Why do you think there's animosity in Central America against America? Because of Dole pineapple, because of AT&T, because they were run by dictators supported by American businesses, and that resentment has been around a long time. And so, you know, it's maybe not fair, but it is what it is.

BOLLING: So, storm our borders because you're ticked off at America for buying the pineapple?

BECKEL: I think what Obama -- the best that Obama can do would be to get the presidents of these countries, including Mexico, which is the worst of them, and get them together and say enough is enough, we're taking your aid away.

BOLLING: Dana, can I ask you this? Is this race debate becoming bigger and bigger via the Department of Justice, because maybe they are worried about turnout in 2014? Do they want --

PERINO: You mean the racism story?

BOLLING: Yes, get the base fired up for 2014.

PERINO: Possibly. I mean sometimes I think we give them too much credit for thinking ahead. I mean, if they really wanted to succeed in 2014, they would have done a lot of things differently leading up to now. So I'm not sure.

And I think the midterm election is very difficult for a president in a second term in the sixth year, in their midterm. They usually lose seats in Congress any way. And it's going to be very difficult for them to convince people to go out to vote unless they are motivated not necessarily by the economy but because of some sort of animosity, or --

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GUTFELD: You think (ph) we have a president -- I'm sorry.

PERINO: I was going to say -- or on the immigration issue can -- now, it's a battle of who can turn out more. I think that the balance of the excitement and enthusiasm right now is still with the right.

BECKEL: One quick point. The base -- black base will be with Barack Obama. The selectively edited pieces of blacks in Chicago --

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BECKEL: Whoever did it, selectively edited it.

BOLLING: I'm glad you brought that up, if you want to see the whole thing, we didn't have time, it's amazing. It wasn't just one or two. It was about five or six different people who were really ticked off.

BECKEL: Whoo!

BOLLING: No, it's --

GUILFOYLE: But, Bob, guess what? Why are diminishing their voice and their ability as Americans to come forward and say what they think about where they live and how the president is --

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BECKEL: They can say what they want to say. Because the media that you always complain about is taking a few people and trying to make a story out of it, and they selectively edited, and we were running selectively editing.

GUTFELD: These are group of people that are saying, why don't you concentrate on the stuff that's going on in our community and not being concerned with people outside? What's confusing to President Obama in his head is he sees so many people wanting in while he wants out.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, he does. Here's the problem. And Eric Holder --

GUTFELD: He doesn't understand why people want to come here, because he wants to get the hell out of here. He wants to go to Italy and have a dinner party.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, but the problem is, they keep focusing on everything. They want to make it, you know, skin deep. That's it. They want to focus on skin color and racial animus and minorities, because if you penetrate beneath the skin, then you're going to have to talk about the man's qualifications and whether there's any leadership there and if he has any idea and any movement to do something to address this crisis.

BECKEL: That is an outrageous statement.

GUILFOYLE: No, that's really true. That's what Eric Holder is saying. He's saying any criticism of the president is based on a racial divide and racial animus in this country. He wants to take us back, instead of coming forward.

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BOLLING: He said it and we use his words and then we backed it up with some people in Chicago who frankly honestly 97 percent of the black community who voted, voted for Barack Obama. He comes from Chicago. That's his hometown. We played those because --

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GUILFOYLE: Skin color doesn't matter.

BOLLING: -- selective editing. We showed the whole story.

BECKEL: Some people and you took 1/10 of 1 percent of Chicago blacks.

BOLLING: No, Bob --

GUILFOYLE: It's just sad.

BOLLING: Can we go?

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BOLLING: OK, let's go.

Up next, Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl is back on active duty after five years hanging with the Taliban. Some say the guy, I don't know, deserter, traitor? Should he be back on the job before we know exactly what he gave the enemy?

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GUILFOYLE: Just six weeks after the terror trade that freed him from the Taliban, Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl has been returned to active duty in the army. Defense official say he has been assigned to a desk job at Fort Sam Houston in Texas and will be free to leave the base without escort.

Army investigators can now begin to question him about his desertion. Should he be getting his job back in the meantime?

Well, the family of one of the soldiers killed while looking for Bergdahl is furious about it. The mother of Lieutenant Darryn Andrews says, quote, "This is another attempt to give credibility of a deserter to protect the decision to free five extremely dangerous Taliban. I just don't think it's right that he's free and collecting pay."

Is this the right move here, Greg?

GUTFELD: Well, wasn't he always collecting pay? I think what do you do? You can't kick him out? It's an investigation. So they are putting him at a desk. They are not going to give him a gun. He's got people surrounding him.

But the point is, I don't think you can do anything else but keep him in regular duty while they investigate. But if he starts dating Claire Danes, I would be worried.

BOLLING: That's funny.

GUILFOYLE: OK, Bolling?

BOLLING: They have blown this thing from the beginning. They traded the Taliban guys. Now, there's a report that one has returned to actively trying to kill Americans.

And then they brought him back. And what this does basically is sending the signal to everyone -- we're not really sure what we're doing. Can you imagine putting this guy back at a desk job, which apparently he's going to have access to computers, he's going to have access to information, he's going to see stuff? I don't know, I think you just really need a little bit -- was this like a month or so?

GUILFOYLE: What was the rush?

BOLLING: Yes, give me --

GUILFOYLE: Dana, what's happening do you think behind the scenes here with the decision like this, Dana?

PERINO: I'm speculating here, which is, I guess, our specialty here on "The Five" when it comes to something like this.

But it could be that the Army that's done a good job up to now of handling the family and handling him, that maybe the best thing for his well-being and his overall sense of self and hopefully his ability in the future to explain his side of what happened that he needs to get back to a normal routine as quickly as possible. Maybe that's what the psychiatrists are thinking.

Even as I say that, I don't know. All I can do is look at the spokesperson from the Army and I have to believe, more speculating, that they are going to keep an eye on him, OK? They will make sure that whatever he has at his computer, whatever he's doing, he will be watched. I don't think we have to worry about that.

GUILFOYLE: Yes. But they say they also have special protection in place because there's quite a few people that are upset and frustrated and confused by the decision, one, to make the trade for five dangerous Taliban fighters. And the fact that now, six weeks later, I mean, somebody give him the number of his therapist because if six weeks, you can cure five years of captivity against someone's will?

BECKEL: I have to agree with Greg on this. I mean, the guy is still a member of the United States military. He hasn't been convicted yet. And they have to do something with him. I suppose put him at a desk job, counting all the paper rolls, is probably not a bad idea.

PERINO: Otherwise, it's like keeping him in captivity.

BECKEL: Yes, you can't hold him against his will. Now, if this guy was a traitor, which everybody is trying to set him up as, we don't know that. There will be an investigation. If he is, my guess is he'll be brought for the court of military justice.

But I only have ask this question about people who are complaining about this Taliban thing. And this may be because of his background I understand it's been sketchy, but if there was a decorated American being held five years by the Taliban, would you have made that trade?

BOLLING: Probably, but this guy wasn't a decorated American. This guy actually was seen and wrote in his journal, he was leaving. There was a good chance he may have deserted.

GUTFELD: You know what? The interesting thing is the decorated war veteran might refuse it. Remember McCain? John McCain refused to go. I think the story will always be about the trade. What was in the Rose Garden did not come out smelling like a rose. There was a lot of lot of bad stuff that we don't know about that went through it.

PERINO: And also, all of this could have been avoided if the White House itself had not made the bad decision to do the Rose Garden photo op but then the thing that rubs salt in the wound for the families is when Susan Rice, a national security adviser, said that Bergdahl had served with honor and distinction.

Up until then, they had been fairly quiet and respectful. But then, as soon as she said that, that's when it changed. And that's why I think the White House had a political problem and took something that could have been handled much better and they turned it into a problem for themselves.

BOLLING: Very quickly. I have a great idea. If you want to put him behind a desk and back into service, or whatever you want to do, send him to Gitmo. I'm sure there's a desk in Gitmo that he can sit behind.

GUILFOYLE: We're going to talk about another big development in world news today, and this is -- the leader of Boko Haram. There's a new video that's out mocking the Bring Back Our Girls campaign. You have to understand the situation here, one of the girls that escaped said they would be torture d if you did any kind of like misgiving, said the wrong thing, tried to escape, they gang-raped you. They make you watch it back and beg not to be executed. This is what these girls are facing on a daily basis.

Take a listen to this how he's making fun of it.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bring back our girls! Ohhh! Bring back our army! Bring back our army. Jonathan! Jonathan (ph)! Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill Christians. Bring back our army!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUILFOYLE: Bob?

BECKEL: We need to get done is put a drone on that guy. The -- what is amazing to me is that the Nigerian military, either because they are not cap capable of it, because they are more cowardly about it. Refuse to go after this guy. He controls a large swath of the country.

This is -- for them, it is an international black eye that I would think they would want to try to get dealt with. But for this guy to be alive and saying this stuff is outrageous. And the sad part about it is I think he reflects a lot of Muslims around the world who believe it.

GUTFELD: You know, the Nigerian president's name is Goodluck Jonathan. Doesn't give a lot of confidence in me. But this is where America matters. If you pull back from the world, you have to be OK with seeing this stuff and say, you know, there are bad people in the world doing bad things to young girls.

We're the only force left in the world that can go in and find these people and destroy them. But we even have second thoughts about that now. It's whether, it's part of our responsibility as the only force in the world that can go in and find -- by the way, how come we can't find these guys when they deliver tapes and we know what they're doing but we can't find them? Also, it's amazing how we have forgotten about this.

GUILFOYLE: They have to cross our border and maybe asylum or something.

GUTFELD: Yes, that's it. But I mean, 2014 is the year of forgetting. We forgot about everything. The scandals, the Flight 370, maybe the girls are on Flight 370. Who knows? Everything comes and disappears.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, Eric and Dana, real quick thoughts.

BOLLING: Go ahead, I just -- it said inaudible. He's saying Goodluck Jonathan. So Boko Haram, they have a problem with the Nigerian government and the army. I guess that's what it is. Again, it is -- I don't know. I just don't know.

GUTFELD: But then you can't look at it --

BOLLING: But you know, Bob is right, drone them. I agree with Bob.

PERINO: Well, one of the things that happened today is that Boko Haram actually sent bombs inside of Lagos, I believe in the south side of the city center. That could change things eventually if -- well, for somebody or maybe for nothing. I just think this very interesting about how we communicate our foreign policy and bring back our girls, I understand why we had the hash tag. But then it's mocked and it becomes fuel for them.

So I think it's very interesting thing to study in the new wave of communication how do you communicate during war and during times of terror threat. And does something that makes us feel better here at home because we retweeted bring back our girls, did it actually cause a bigger problem there? Is there anything you can do about it? I think there's probably not.

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GUILFOYLE: Especially if you don't do anything about it.

BECKEL: That's speculation. This is my speculation. Right now, there's a force, U.S. Special Forces being trained to do exactly this. They are going to go in there and they're going to get him and get these girls out of there.

GUILFOYLE: I agree.

PERINO: But that's what they said two months ago.

BECKEL: Well, it's a complex process.

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GUILFOYLE: Every day, women and young girls are being killed.

GUTFELD: I think the tweets were as powerful as they could be.

GUILFOYLE: OK. All right. I don't want to live in a world without America, I'll tell you that, and not sleep at night.

Next, a concerning warning from Israel's prime minister for the U.S. about Iran. Stay tuned.

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PERINO: The deadline for Iran to make a deal with the world about its new program is less than a week away. New agreements were made at talks in Indiana over the weekend so that deadline could be extended. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has this warning on the Iranian threat.

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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: This is the preeminent terrorist empire of our time, not even a terrorist state. It's a terrorist empire. It's got these terror provinces. You don't want this Iran to have neither nuclear weapons or the capability to make nuclear weapons, to enrich uranium for a nuclear bomb in short order at Shiites and Sunni radicals are buying (ph) with each other who would be the king of this Islamist hill. And from there they'll gone and attack the United States, whom they see is the great Satan. If any one of these sides and in this case, the militant Shiites led by Iran, get their hands on nuclear weapons, when all bets are off it would be a disaster for the United States and for everyone else.

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DANA PERINO, "The Five" HOST: I like that kind of clear headed thinking. Greg, let me ask you first. Did you put in context -- so, Iran, they know that the deadline is coming up and then all of the sudden right before they are gonna miss the deadline, they say, well, maybe we'll be willing to talk a little bit further and then they get rewarded with more talking time.

GREG GUTFELD, "The Five" HOST: This is that the -- for them an agreement is a vehicle for negotiations that allow them to build while we bitch they enrich, that's what they've been doing for years. They won't take our deadlines seriously because nobody takes our deadlines or our redlines seriously because our word is nothing.

PERINO: And meanwhile, the Iranian economy continues to get better, right, Eric?

ERIC BOLLING, "The Five" HOST: You know what's going on? We send -- we've sent billions of dollars to Hamas to the Palestinian authority, that's bad for Israel. We've negotiated with Iran over this nuclear thing. We've lifted the sanctions on Iran, that's bad for Israel. This came out about 10 minutes before the show. Our biggest -- number one biggest arms trade deal of 2014, $11 billion is gonna be with Qatar, the group that just sent over 5, you know, negotiate that deal for Bergdahl. We're negotiating with the devil. We're dealing with the devil instead of standing with Israel, which is really the group we should be joining. Now, look, they are going to sent patriot missiles to Qatar. How good can this be for anyone in the Middle East that not -- it's just awful what we're doing. We have no Middle East policy. Israel is going to pay for it. We might also.

PERINO: Let me play one other sound byte and have, Bob, pull the two stories together, because in some ways, I think, the -- we're having a proxy war with Iran. Look at what he had to say over the weekend about the situation most recently.

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NETANYAHU: I just wanted your viewers to imagine the United States being bombarded not in one city or two cities, but in every city between New York and Colorado, maybe 20 percent of the United States would be exempt for almost 80 percent of your citizens would have to be in bomb shelters or ready to go into bomb shelters within a minute or a minute and a half max. No country can accept that. We can't accept that. We're gonna take the necessary action to stop it.

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PERINO: Bob, you have seen a lot of these flare ups over the years. Do you think this is any different from previous ones or do you think it will just be a cycle where Benjamin Netanyahu is able to protect his people and then everybody goes back to their corners for awhile?

BOB BECKEL, "The Five" HOST: I think it is different because it's impossible for the guys in this to get drones, which means those drones came from Iran (inaudible). The Iranians said after the negotiation this is last weekend that there was a difference and they wanted to have more enriched uranium, not less. I have been a supporter of this negotiation, but I firmly feel that the deadline or will be the deadline, at that point, if we don't have a solution to it, I think the United States and Israel have every right for humanity to give Israel B1 bombers and it's time to take out a good percentage of what Iran has. We'll get screamed at, by the air the bombers (ph). So what, we get screamed at any way. And I think, we have to think about this, I mean, if they did, he's right. I mean, they have that. We're talking about the end of humanity as we know it in the Middle East for these idiots. So, I think it's time for the United States and Israel to get together, if you had to take it out.

PERINO: Very interesting development in terms of your evolution of your thinking on that, because I think maybe there are a lot there or more people finally that are getting to that position as well. Kimberly, I wanted to get your thoughts on. If you're Israel and have iron dome, which is basically protected most of the civilians from being in harm's way. Do you think that shows that national defense is worth every penny if you're under threat?

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, "The Five" HOST: Listen, I'm always a big believer in this country and for Israel to have a strong national defense. It helps make the world safer. This man is an untenable position. I like his language, his rhetoric. I like his call for action to the United States. I'm very disappointed in our lack of partnership with such a strong ally as Israel. They need us. We should be a willing participant and partner against Hamas and other terrorist groups, and we should not leave Israel in a position that's so vulnerable because it will be us next.

BOLLING: Could I (inaudible) very quickly? The biggest mistake we have done -- made probably in the last ten years foreign policy Wise and Bubba wish he would step up and agree with this, was lifting the sanctions on Iran. That was the dumbest that -- why in the world would we do that now until we have a deal with them and maybe even then not even.

BECKEL: I think it's a reasonable thing. I think maybe you're right. I don't know. I must study it very carefully.

PERINO: But the horse is out of the barn.

GUTFELD: Do you know what's great though? If you watch on other networks how they defend Hamas' missiles, they talk about these missiles dropping, but you know, they are primitive. They are not really good missiles. We're shooting at your country. It's the thought that counts. When you're sending those missiles, it's the thought that counts. It's not Israel's fought you're better at it that you are.

BECKEL: There's nothing primitive about drones. They're relatively new technology.

PERINO: OK. Still ahead, a world cup fan won a modeling contract after photos of face of her and the fan, but then she lost that gig as quickly as she got it after different photos went viral. Greg is going to explain that.

GUTFELD: I am.

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GUTFELD: All right. Belgium beauty Axelle -- whatever that name is, best known for making soccer watchable is out of a job. She'd won a modeling contract from L'Oreal after being spotted during the World Cup but her dreams were crushed when she tweeted a photo during the U.S. and Belgium match. She's standing over a dead antelope RIP with the caption, hunting is not a matter of life or death. It's much more important than that. This was about a year ago. Ready to hunt Americans today, haha. Outrage ensued fuelled by reporters chopping the chance for a scalp in a byline. So, they chased L'Oreal who then drop girl despite girl's apologies which never ever work. One reporter, Ally Wiseman, seeing here with a pig defends herself saying I'm not anti-Axelle, just wanted L'Oreal to respond, which they had not done privately. Wish her the best. Awesome. But why stop there? I'm sure there's a Greek glass up for a contract with Crest who may have tweeted about eating frog legs, act. Act now, you can ruin her too. As we're reporting guys, we're seeing a new kind to replace it, one that focuses not on people in power but nobodies on Twitter. Who needs the IRS or VA scandals? Just find someone online that screwed up and get that outrage ball rolling. The Belgian, she'll be fine. She is fine. As for us, we're stuck with these hacks. Instead of chasing real corruption, they tail cute girls. Twitter is the new Serengeti. And you don't even need a riffle to go hunting, just a laptop and the attention span of a goldfish. It's like the second story where a girl who hunts.

PERINO: Why do things happen in threes? These things do happen in threes and this is for the third one.

GUTFELD: Well, there was Kendall Jones the cheerleader who posed with an animal. And then there was a politician that offered $100,000 to buy nude photos for her. He wanted to hunt her. And there's this girl. So, there is a third one. You should pose with a gun.

PERINO: I should?

GUTFELD: Yes, you should.

PERINO: What do you want me to hunt?

GUTFELD: I don't know.

PERINO: This is what I (inaudible) at L'Oreal. Why doesn't L'Oreal do a little Google search before? Or like, they offered her a contract -- if they were so sensitive about her hunting, she didn't hide it. It was there for everybody to see on her social media.

GUTFELD: Yeah, poor antelope. Eric, who's worse? The idiots expressing the outrage or the companies who fold to it?

PERINO: Right.

BOLLING: Well, I think it's the idiots -- remember the company is trying to sell products. So, if you get this Twitter universe that comes after you, they`re going to do it.

GUTFELD: But it's just like ten people who just retweeting.

BOLLING: Well, if that's it, I'm guessing they weren't going to do it. I'm guessing they would to start to become a real thing. And hopefully they were smart enough to investigate. And you know what? They responded to customers. If their customers don't want her, then they did the right thing by their shareholders. L'Oreal might be privately held, I don't know, but here's the point, that Twitter army that happens, that's disgusting. I did, listen, I am so much against that. I'm against boycotts. I hate --- you're your voice -- you have an opinion, voice your opinion but don't get 200 people have no idea what's going on to signing for your cause just because you want them too.

GUTFELD: Part of the tweet, Bob, as she said, let's start hunting Americans. She was talking about the game, the soccer game. So again, like Eric said, the tweet is taken out of context. She's made to look like the devil. She looses the job. And the female reporters are like I got a scoop.

BECKEL: Well, I, you know, I was in public relations and image enhancement before I elect to offer my services for free in this case.

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BECKEL: Let me tell you why this is. L'Oreal and the entire cosmetic industry had for years have been under pressure because they use animals.

GUTFELD: Right.

BECKEL: To test their product. And my guess is this is the worst picture that L'Oreal could possibly see. And Eric's right. They look at this thing and they say she may be beautiful, but the rest of that picture coming up there is gonna get them an enormous amount of heat. They've already taken a couple decades over -- so I think it makes sense from L'Oreal's standpoint.

GUTFELD: Should she get a gun contract?

GUILFOYLE: She should be the next star of The Hunger Games. I think she's perfect for it she was just miscast for L'Oreal. That's true. Don't you think?

PERINO: She'll come out a winner.

GUTFELD: Aren't we all? Up next, Bob's nightmare is finally over. The World Cup has ended and he has one last soccer rant in him. Plus, LeBron James, not sure who that is, talks for the first time about his return to the Cavaliers, coming up. I hate hockey.

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BECKEL: It's been a long month of watching paint dry and grass grow on the soccer field in Brazil. But the World Cup finally came to an end yesterday. Germany defeated Argentina in an extra time overtime score of, wait for this, one-nothing. All that back and forth for just one point. I'm gonna say it again. I'm sticking with American football. Now, yesterday for over 90 minutes it was nil-nil. Now, nil-nil some people believe is philosophical. We all start -- life is nil-nil and we have a chance to become victors or losers. And you know, as absurd in philosophical -- somebody said yesterday about this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What?

BECKEL: Let me just say to you, you're crazy.

PERINO: Wow that was deep.

BECKEL: It was deep. But, Eric, are you happy to see this over with?

BOLLING: It was fantastic. I watched a lot of the soccer. It was -- yes, there's a 117 minutes of 0-0. Well for that -- Germany, by the way, dominated. They beat -- they beat everyone. But they dominated. That last goal, 117 minutes in, this guy Mario G"tze just -- he controlled the ball and put a perfect shot on goal. Game was over. It was great, it was great watching it.

GUILFOYLE: I wish I had a little more enthusiasm coming from you.

PERINO: Yeah.

GUILFOYLE: balling in the center.

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BECKEL: That's an indication of how I'm excited to hear about it. Some excels performance, I guess. What about you, you like soccer?

PERINO: I like soccer. I made a mistake yesterday, well actually Peter did because I asked him at lunchtime. I said, Peter what time is the game, 3:00 or 4:00. And he said 4:00. So, nobody was -- nobody turn on the TV until 4:00. And then, so, we didn't have to watch the first 45 minutes.

GUILFOYLE: I can't believe Peter.

PERINO: But you know what? He said one thing about your die or try, Bob. Is that, with -- in American football, which he likes as well, they actually interrupt the commercial breaks for an occasional play. And then, he would rather watch soccer on TV and because then you only get like one commercial break.

BECKEL: Good for peter. Now, Greg, I know you were transfixed for it yesterday.

GUTFELD: I was watching it at the gym as I always do. But what's interesting to me was the director took a picture during the game of Christ the redeemer. This is a pretty amazing shot that he got. After he made this shot the announcers for the game said, why are we taking that shot? You should be watching the game. He said that's neat, but we should be watching the game as though somehow this picture is somehow less interesting than this game. The game is interesting, but that picture was pretty awesome.

PERINO: Did you remember what Carl Perkins(ph) said about that statue?

BECKEL: All right. Did you watch it?

GUILFOYLE: I actually did. I had it on and Ronan was watching it and he has little buddy Massimo over. And they played soccer.

GUTFELD: Massimo?

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GUILFOYLE: They love it. So, they were watching it. They were super excited. Then they went outside and played soccer in the backyard. So, I'm loving some soccer. I love it. And I played soccer since I was in second grade on an all-boy team. That's where you meet the guys.

BECKEL: I would play soccer with you. Listen, we're gonna talk about, for a second, about the probably best basketball player in the last few years in the NBA and that's LeBron James who has decided to go back to Cleveland, where he started his career. And he's being paid $40 million for a two-year contract. Now let me ask you, Dana, you're -- I know you're a basketball fan of great note.

PERINO: Former star player.

BECKEL: Do you know how many goals, I mean, how many cup, the championships that LeBron James won?

PERINO: two.

BECKEL: Very good.

PERINO: I read my research. And I have a friend.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, Bolling.

BECKEL: How many did average.

BOLLING: He averaged 27.5 points a game. Quick point, when he left Cleveland, they burned his jersey. When he left Miami now, they're burning his jersey. Big mistake, Miami. I'm a huge Miami -- I love Miami. This is a big mistake. He brought two championships to Miami. The guy is a super star.

PERINO: He just wants to go home.

GUTFELD: Here's a lesson you can get from basketball about our borders.

PERINO: What?

GUTFELD: Can't score a basket without a rim.

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GUTFELD: That's all I got.

GUILFOYLE: I love basketball too. I wish LeBron would come and take the heat in New York from the New York staples and come and play for the Knicks because then we'd have something to work with mellow.

PERINO: Cleveland. Cleveland had a great week. They got the GOP convention at the lap in Hartford, they got LeBron James back. And Cleveland is the place to be.

BOLLING: Johnny football?

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BECKEL: One More Thing is up next.

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BOLLING: OK. It's time for One More Thing. Bob is kicking it off.

BECKEL: I made some comments last week about Chinese people, which apparently upset some people. And for which I apologize. However, my comments will not be -- I do not apologize for the things I said about China. And I won't go into it now, because there's too many China apologies in this country. But I will continue to warn the American people about how dangerous China is to the U.S. security and to our business community. But to those who were offended, I apologize. I do not apologize to the Chinese government or for the habits or for the murders or anything else.

BOLLING: All right, Bob, good job. Dana, you're up.

PERINO: OK. You guys like to eat, right? There's a movement afoot, it's from Britain. Britain is having this big lobbying campaign to try keeps Scotland from trying to go independent. They came in the United Stated and they are asking the United States to overturn a ban on haggis. Since 1971, the United States ban haggis. Let me tell you what it is. The problem is that it's sheep lungs, which apparently we banned in '71. But basically you put all this other meats in it and you put it in the sheep's stomach and then you cook it with oatmeal and nutmeg and spices. I don't like it necessarily, but I do think it's ridiculous that we banned it. And I hope that the Obama administration realizes the error of America's way and allows haggis.

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GUILFOYLE: I try.

GUTFELD: You're eating somebody's -- some animal's stomach. Delicious. So, I was going through some stuff that was sent to me from my mom's house. I came across this. This is my award for my school paper in 1982 or 83 when I was co-editor. And I won the award for most censored but most persistent. That's Serra Freire(ph)from Serra High in San Mateo, California.

PERINO: Same as true today.

GUTFELD: Yeah. Isn't that bizarre? Hilarious. Nothing changes.

BOLLING: Bob might give you a run for your money. Sarah you're up.

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GUILFOYLE: One more thing from my New York girlfriend, Dana Perino. So, this is sent to Dana and she's kind enough to share with me. It's a really great story. You know, I love children. And take a look right there. That's 9-year-old Drew. And he's at a special fundraiser, it's a golf tournament at the hospital where he was born premature and had to make many visits back there same with his sister. And so, his big goal in life was to meet Peyton Manning. He's a super fan of Peyton. Peyton came along with some other sports celebrity, came to this golf tournament to raise money for children at this hospital. And he finally got to meet him, to get the autograph. And all this little boy wanted for Christmas said, I just want a Peyton Manning jersey, mom. Nothing ample, so, she got him two. I just think what a great little boy. And Peyton Manning, good on you.

BOLLING: very, very nice. Very quickly, this is why capitalism rocks. Check out three eighth graders from Brooklyn called Unlocking The Truth discovered in Times Square. Watch.

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BOLLING: OK. So, now they`ve opened for Guns N Roses in Vegas, they played at Coachella and they just signed a $1.7 million record deal. Congratulations to you guys.

PERINO: Really? That's a great one more thing. I'm jealous.

BOLLING: That's it for us. Don't forget your DVR as never miss an episode of The Five. We'll see you back here tomorrow.

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