This is a rush transcript from "The Five," June 27, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Andrea Tantaros, Bob Beckel, Tucker Carlson and Greg Gutfeld.
It's 5 o'clock in New York City. And this is "The Five."
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I've been really looking forward to getting out of D.C. I'm like a caged bear and every once in a while, break loose. You never know what I might do.
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GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: That's true (ph).
PERINO: That was President Obama yesterday in Minnesota, talking about letting loose when he is not in Washington. The Supreme Court would argue that he is plenty loose in D.C., the nine justices put a stop to his recess appointments, voting unanimously against his presidential overreach.
National Journal's Ron Fournier and constitutional attorney Jonathan Turley say the president should have known better.
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RON FOURNIER, NATIONAL JOURNAL: The Supreme Court basically argued that the Senate makes its rules, not the president of the United States. You know, I learned that in third grades civics class. And the president should have known better. He's a constitutional attorney.
JONATHAN TURLEY, CONSTITUTIONAL ATTORNEY: This is becoming something of a serial violation for the president. You know, what the president did here, I can't imagine any competent lawyer would look at it and say, yes, you do have that authority. It was clearly an effort to circumvent.
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PERINO: The president has made a habit out of taking executive action and the White House is signaling he's about to do so again and this time, on immigration reform.
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JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: The president has tasked his secretary of homeland security, Jeh Johnson, with reviewing what options are available to the president -- what is at his disposal, using his executive authority to try to address some of the problems that have been created by the broken immigration system.
OBAMA: I'm not going to apologize for trying to do something while they're doing nothing.
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PERINO: Do you remember, Greg, in 2011, the We Can't Wait --
PERINO: -- campaign that president Obama started because he said Congress wasn't doing enough, so he was trying to do more. So, then he does more and the Supreme Court says you actually can't do that in particular, so Obama deals with concerns about overreach by the executives, by announcing more overreach by the executives. Is that genius move?
GUTFELD: No, yes. President Obama has the right idea. He's like a Don Juan on a first day. He's trying to round the bases at every opportunity. So, he's trying to get away with much as possible, knowing that he will get away with something.
And the worse thing that can happen is somebody says no. That's where the myth of this whole lame duck presidency is.
He's not a lame duck. The media is the lame duck and he's turning our country to a lame duck, but he ain't lame. He's galloping like a wild stallion over our dreams.
TUCKER CARLSON, CO-HOST: No does not mean no for Obama.
GUTFELD: Yes, not with law.
PERINO: Tucker Carlson, everybody. He's here just for one night.
Let's listen, Andrea, to President Obama talk about another thing that has, on Americans' mind, which is all the scandals that are going on. He has a particular adjective he likes to use.
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OBAMA: Sometimes the news that coming off is just --these are just Washington fights. They are fabricated issues. They are phony scandals that are generated. It's all geared towards the next election or ginning up a base. It's not on the level.
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GUTFELD: Is that John Kerry behind?
PERINO: And it was Charles Krauthammer apparently doing a lip sync, an amazing one, of President Obama.
ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: I was going to say, Krauthammer has done a great imitation of President Obama. Wow.
PERINO: Andrea, when 76 percent of the people say that they believe that the administration destroyed evidence in the IRS scandal, do you think it's wise that the president says it's phony?
TANTAROS: I think he thinks it's wise because the media is not reporting on. "The New York Times" today saying, yes, we were a little late to the game.
Why does he have to use any other adjective? If no one is going to call him on the carpet, he can say it's phony for a long time, because guess what, the media agreed with him for a very long time.
Here's what I don't understand -- how can he use the word phony after the V.A. scandal? That's the point where I would have said, OK, I can do this Benghazi. I can talk about the IRS as a political scandal and the media will go along with that one. But I feel like when the V.A. scandal hit, and you had dead veterans, that was the point where the president had to say, OK, let's get serious, we can't trivialize these things and lump them altogether and he hasn't done that.
And it shows somebody who is just profoundly so out of touch with his polling and the way people really are starting to see what are legitimate scandals.
PERINO: Let me ask Bob about that part, and also because, Bob, earlier this week, President Obama did an interview with MSNBC, and he did another one with George Stephanopoulos on Air Force One, plus he had the public events in Minnesota, that I think were -- that was a smart tactic. I like the "day in a life" thing that they're to do.
Why do you think the president continues to do so many television interviews?
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: I don't know and I wish he wouldn't. But let me clarify something.
The Supreme Court came down on one particular point because the Senate was out for three days. It was not a blanket cutting of the president's executive power to do recess appointments. That's one thing we keep in mind. The other thing is when you talk about 86 percent or 79 percent --
PERINO: Seventy-six percent.
BECKEL: Seventy-six percent of the people think that there was a scandal. Now, I've sat at this table and listen to Greg particularly dump on all the media for being quiet. Now, with all due respect to "Daily Caller" and FOX and Rush Limbaugh, 80 percent of Americans did not learn of this because media didn't report on it. Of course, they did. And so, they form an opinion on it. So, when we said --
PERINO: Their opinion is that it's not --
BECKEL: -- we're the only ones that go out there and do it, it's a bunch of crap --
PERINO: What I said is the president is saying that it's phony but the American people are saying we don't think that it's phony. That's what the disconnect it.
BECKEL: Now, my point though is that that many Americans believe that, right? It's not good for Obama. But the idea that somehow they didn't get that from the news, they only got it from the right wing, the Tucker or Rush Limbaugh, is crazy?
PERINO: Are you going to take that, Tucker?
CARLSON: Yes. Bob, I don't think you are showing due respect, as you put it, for "The Daily Caller." I like to see right for us.
BECKEL: No, you wouldn't.
CARLSON: Look, the president is not talking to us, actually. He's not talking to me. He's not talking to a huge percentage of the country. They decided right after the reelect, they are speaking to their demographic, to their voters.
And, by the way, his calm comes from a lot of things. It's a pose to some extent. But partly, it comes to an advanced understanding of demographic changes. They believe they will be vindicated because America is changing, which is kind of a creepy thought if you think about it. But that's what they think.
BECKEL: You didn't answer my question?
PERINO: What is your question?
CARLSON: Your question, I mean, with all due respect.
BECKEL: With all due respect.
CARLSON: If your question is, isn't it true the media are covering these things? The answer is, what world are you living in? Of course not. And the numbers --
BECKEL: So, how did the 80 percent of people know about them?
CARLSON: Well, this is the trickle down theory. And so, if a couple leading --
BECKEL: Oh, I see. A trickle down from "The Daily Caller" and from this show?
CARLSON: -- a couple news organizations report on something extensively enough, after a while, even "The New York Times" has to pay attention. But you can, this stuff is studied, OK? The three broadcast networks paid no attention at all, for example, to the IRS --
PERINO: Well, in "The New York Times" today, their public editor actually has to write a piece that says, I admit that we are a little slow to get to it, which has actually been a pattern.
TANTAROS: But then he added on to the whole point was that it was partisan politics --
TANTAROS: -- and that it was phony.
GUTFELD: You've heard President Obama use the phrase "climate change denier." Obama is an Obama denier. He refuses to admit that he's been president for the last six and a half years, responsible for more messes than an incontinent poodle.
PERINO: Let me ask you something about the executive branch because - -
GUTFELD: What's that?
BECKEL: He stays up all day (ph) and does --
PERINO: Don't humor him.
BECKEL: You said that to me yesterday.
PERINO: Can I mention one thing about the NLR -- so, the Court decision on the recess appointments, there are actual consequences for that, because when the president made that decision, that put basically, they have said, that the NLRB as constituted, were not legitimate. Therefore the decisions made during that period are not legitimate. So, you have a federal policy that continues to be in chaos.
And if you take this to the next logical step on Andrea on immigration, part of the problem is executives orders is that they are not as strong as congressional approval or congressional legislation. We found that out in Obamacare. So, now, with immigration, do we run the risk of doing some sort of executive order where President Obama forgives people at the border now, allows them to come in, and then several years later, the court is going to say that was not legitimate? I mean, that's where I think a real risk is on executive overreach.
TANTAROS: Yes. But they don't seem to care, Dana. I mean, yesterday, the Supreme Court smacked back President Obama's overreach in a very clear way. I believe it's the 12th time that the administration has been smacked back by the highest court in the land --
TANTAROS: -- unanimously. And they don't seem to care. And you have Josh Earnest and we saw the clip at the beginning of the segment, where he said we're not going to wait for Congress to write the laws. We're going to go at it alone.
And I would argue the reason we're having this border mess, where 47,000 young kids have been trafficked over the border or flooding the border since the beginning of this year is because of President Obama's executive order where he didn't want to deport them in the first place.
BECKEL: Yes, by the way, the Supreme Court did -- said very specifically, we did not interrupt the history of the president's ability to have recess appointments.
PERINO: But he was very clear to say that the president cannot say when the Senate is in recess.
TANTAROS: But he is a habitually extra constitutional president. It's unprecedented the way that he has flouted the Constitution, flexed his muscles, in the way that no other president has.
CARLSON: Can I ask an obvious question, though? I mean, I would argue, I think that's right. But all presidents seek to expand executive powers. What they do, try to expand the size of the Supreme Court in order to do it. Worse Congress, that's the obvious question.
One thing the president can't do is appropriate money. They're totally in charge of that. Why do they continue to send money to fund things they believe are unconstitutional?
BECKEL: The worst Congress in history.
CARLSON: Pretty interesting question.
GUTFELD: The good news about the border is Nancy Pelosi is actually going down there to greet them, and I hope she brings some gently used underwear, because that's what they are asking for.
Interesting thing is, we can all admit, things are only a scandal if it involves a Republican. That's what we're learning for the last six years. And with President Obama feeling trumps law, his philosophy has always been, if it feels good for himself, do it. That used to apply to sex and drugs, but his drug of choice is expansion of power. That's how he gets high.
PERINO: I think this thing is going on.
BECKEL: Democrat was the second person impeached in the entire history of this country. That was a scandal.
BECKEL: Bill Clinton.
PERINO: OK. Can we talk about this situation? I want to ask Tucker and you to comment on something that I think is an interesting conundrum for the president. So, we've got Senate Democrats and House Democrats, but let's just focus on the Senate because that's the one most in play.
He's saying we can't wait. We're going to go -- I'm going to go it alone. That probably doesn't help those particular Democrats in their states, but also, why doesn't he and Harry Reid let them vote on something? Are they afraid to vote on Keystone legislation?
Why don't they allow some of the bills that the House has passed to be voted on in the Senate? Then they can actually say then that they passed or failed and the president vetoed or signed them. Why not just try to do something?
BECKEL: Well, it's --
PERINO: Harry Reid blocks all of those things from going to a vote.
BECKEL: That's politics. I mean, look, first of all, why would you want to pass anything the House passed? Number one.
PERINO: Keystone pipeline.
PERINO: Ninety-nine percent of people are --
BECKEL: And I think the reason they're not -- they won't allow the pipeline is pure politics. You don't want to have a vote on it.
PERINO: Right. That's what I'm saying. So, the president is playing just as much politics as anyone else. If he really wanted them to do something, Tucker, why don't they just call a vote?
CARLSON: First of all, why won't the Senate pass from the House? I think that's kind of what the system is designed for. But --
BECKEL: If you had a House of Representatives that's legitimate.
CARLSON: So, they're just -- they're just still legitimate.
CARLSON: So crazy.
PERINO: Not "FOX & FRIENDS."
CARLSON: So, let me just say, the president actually does not have the best interests of his own party in Congress at heart. He's -- I mean, he's -- they don't like him when you get right to it. Talk to a Democratic member of Congress who is not Nancy Pelosi, and give them a few drinks, and I'll say, you know what, that guy has never done anything for us, only hurt us. We lost control of the House cause of him. He doesn't care in the end what happens to the Congress. That's my theory.
PERINO: Do you have a theory on this, Andrea?
My whole point about why not just let them vote on something and then he could actually be -- have a legitimate point to say that they couldn't do anything.
TANTAROS: Because it's not going to go his way, we know. And so, he doesn't want to look weak and -- I mean, that would embarrass him if a Democratic Senate --
BECKEL: You're talk about one issue, right? You're talking about --
PERINO: I think corporate tax reform, and I think on the medical device tax, I think they could do that. Keystone Pipeline are those three -- I will make the Congress do those right now.
TANTAROS: But also, he's choosing the big money guys and fundraising and where he thinks a lot of this money is going to come in from the environmentalists, that to him is more important as well because if he lets them, which he's not going to do, let them bring that bill to a vote or he says, Harry Reid, bring it to a vote, you are going to have these angry, rich environmentalists saying, OK, we're not going to give you money for your House and Senate races.
CARLSON: Or to your presidential library project.
TANTAROS: Exactly. So, what priorities people, the presidential library is more important than thousands of jobs.
PERINO: Let's do a quick round on one last thing which is, this idea that House Speaker Boehner put forward this week, based on some new legal developments and some theories about actually suing President Obama. Take a listen.
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CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: This is the 12th time that the administration has been shut out 9-0 in challenges in the Supreme Court which is unprecedented. I think this bodes well for the Boehner lawsuit challenging the president's overreach.
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PERINO: Today, the president said that they just want to sue him for doing his job, but maybe it's really that they want to sue him for not doing his job. Maybe.
GUTFELD: I don't know. I'm not a big fan of these symbolic -- I feel it's a symbolic gesture. It's like, you know, when Rand Paul does the filibuster, it's the stuff that everybody thinks is cool but it doesn't change anything. And I don't know if this changes anything. I'll have to wait and see, Dana.
PERINO: Hey, you all wait and see.
PERINO: Anybody want to comment on the lawsuit?
CARLSON: I mean, it's hard to be against it. But on the other hand, I would much rather defund that agency.
GUTFELD: That's action.
CARLSON: Next time he passes an executive order, I don't know, the next time the EPA regulates coal plants out of existence, defund a portion of the EPA. I mean, how hard is that?
BECKEL: It goes way too far. It would get shut down, the Boehner lawsuit.
And you're right, I mean, the appropriation process is the way you ought to play the game. I don't understand why they don't do it. But what Obama said was, if they're not going to act, I am. He's exactly right. This Congress has been a waste of time and it starts with the House of Representatives.
GUTFELD: But he hasn't done any -- again back to the pipeline --
PERINO: Do you know what will end up helping Obama the most, Andrea, in my opinion? Is that those Republicans take back the Senate in the fall, and then the president in the last two years can either sign or veto the legislation they send to him and he could be a hero on a couple of things, but then he could actually say that the Congress isn't able to do anything. Look, you guys give them control, they still can't do anything. That would be the silver lining of a Republican --
TANTAROS: I think you're absolutely right. But also, I think Boehner, contrary to what Bob thinks, is on sound constitutional ground. Typically, I'm not for these Republican gestures, because think do appear to be stunts -- but not this time.
I mean, President Obama has egregiously tipped the power towards the executive, in an unprecedented way. People say George Bush did it. This pales in comparison to what Bush did, pales in comparison. But I do think, Dana, that the courts are going to be reluctant to get involved in something like this and I really don't think President Obama would care either way what the court --
PERINO: There's a big debate during the Bush administration.
TANTAROS: -- is why it is working.
PERINO: During the second term, there's a big debate about actually doing these type of recess appointments, and there were some people who vociferously argued against it in the counsel's office. Thank goodness they prevailed or else we would have had a mess, another mess on our hands.
Did you enjoy that?
GUTFELD: That was a lot of fun but I kind of tuned out.
GUTFELD: Well, it's Friday.
PERINO: What are you going to be eating tonight?
GUTFELD: It's definitely whine (ph) night.
PERINO: OK, well, whine, W-H-I-N-E, for Greg.
GUTFELD: Shirtless whine night.
PERINO: Ahead on "The Five," former Weather Underground leader, Bill Ayers, sat down with FOX News for the first time. You're going to see part of Megyn Kelly's exclusively interview, next.
And later, you waited a year for this moment, but the wait is over. Bob returned to Times Square for another outdoor yoga class and once again, it is something to see.
GUTFELD: The wait is over.
TANTAROS: Well, sometimes you have to see something to believe it and you are about to. Bill Ayers, former leader of the domestic terror group, the Weather Underground, just sit in an interview with FOX News.
And Megyn Kelly had plenty of questions for him.
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MEGYN KELLY, FOX NEWS HOST: How many bombings are you responsible for?
BILL AYERS, FORMER LEADER OF TERROR GROUP WEATHER UNDERGROUND: Weather Underground took credit of slightly over 20 in a period when there were 20,000 bombings in the United States against the war.
KELLY: How about you personally?
AYERS: Me personally, I never talk about it, never will.
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TANTAROS: So, not only won't Ayers talk about his violent past, he also seems to be suffering from a serious case of amnesia about it.
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KELLY: Just because you went underground didn't mean the violence stopped?
AYERS: What violence?
KELLY: Well, June 9th, 1970, you bombed the New York City Police headquarters.
AYERS: So, now, again --
KELLY: Let me just list it.
KELLY: March 1st, 1971, you bombed the U.S. capital. May 19th, 1972, you bombed the Pentagon. January 29th, 1975, you bombed the State Department. That's what I mean by violence.
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TANTAROS: What I got from this interview, Dana, is that Bill Ayers hasn't changed one bit. Most people knew who he was. If they don't, they know now. If they've forgotten, they remember very quickly that he's still unapologetic and saying the things he's been saying for years.
PERINO: And what's amazing is that in our society, apparently, it is more acceptable to be friends with Bill Ayers than it is to be friends with Koch brothers, because Harry Reid can go on the Senate floor and call the Koch brothers un-American, and all these other things. I'm not trying to compare them directly, but it is amazing that he went on to have a pretty good career and make a lot of money, sell a lot of books. And Tucker got to even meet with him personally.
TANTAROS: How was he, Tucker, as a --
CARLSON: I had dinner with him. Andrew Breitbart and I had one dinner with him a couple of years ago in Chicago. I can't, I'm not saying this because I disagree with his politics, I disagree with a lot of people's politics, he's one of the creepiest people I've ever met. There's something furtive and weird about him, and kind of wet and oily and just disgusting. No, I mean that with total sincerity.
BECKEL: I think --
CARLSON: But I will say can I say one thing? This reminds of something that's irritating me for the past six years. During one of presidential debates in '08, Obama was asked about this and he said, "I'm friends with Bill Ayers, I'm also friends with Tom Coburn." So, it kind of equals out, Tom Coburn, the senator from Oklahoma.
That's an outrageous thing to say. He was never held accountable for that. To compare those two, Coburn is a great guy. Ayers is a criminal. He really ought to be held accountable --
BECKEL: I just got to say what an incredible day and incredible news day, that we go back 45 years. Why don't we go back to the FDR chicken debates?
BECKEL: I mean, this is the most ridiculous, the guy met him one time. This guy is 45 year ago, he may have bombed a few things, he may not have.
TANTAROS: He may have bombed a few things?
BECKEL: Well, actually, I was -- other people may have been involved in some of the stuff. But the point was, you guys were not around then during that war. It was a despicable horrible war. And in some cases, it took some radical action to try to stop it.
CARLSON: Well, that's a horrible thing. We're trying to stop it. They were rooting for the other side. They were --
BECKEL: I was against the war.
CARLSON: They were.
BECKEL: They were.
TANTAROS: John Wayne Gacy was secretive about his serial killings. I mean, to Tucker's point, there is something very creepy about someone who repeatedly bombs locations, doing it for public acclaim and then denies it's even violent.
GUTFELD: Well, he's my evil. My first question is, why is he still alive? His career should not be as a professor but as corpse. But the best part about his bombing is that he's inept. He was one of the worst bombers. His bombs actually killed, Weather Underground, killed his own friends and yet, that's why he became a professor because you can be inept and still get tenure.
He is a lizard. You know, he said creepy -- he is a lizard. Old guys with earrings, I mean, he thinks his students are going to sleep with him. When he walks by, they laugh at that scumbag.
He's a -- creepy attempts at flirting. He's a pathetic little animal.
BECKEL: Can you tell me why you think we're even talking about this?
GUTFELD: Because it's important, because this should have counted in the election, because the media let this crap slide, the media let Obama becoming president while being -- with pals with a bomber who tried to kill police and tried to kill military. If Ayers was a man, he would visit the relatives of the victims and explain his stance to them. Don't explain it to Megyn Kelly. Explain it to the relatives of the victim.
He's such a dirt bag.
BECKEL: Wait a minute. Obama went to his house one time.
GUTFELD: Then, you know there's -- oh, please, Bob, do you actually believe that?
GUTFELD: All right. To use one of your lines, I have a bridge to sell you.
BECKEL: OK. Well, I mean, I just -- the idea we should be looking at him as a friend, because Tucker is one of his friends, he went out to dinner with him.
TANTAROS: But, Bob, we don't have time to play the sound bite, but the woman that he married, Bernardine Dohrn --
TANTAROS: -- is notorious for praising Charles Manson, who killed a pregnant woman, eat dinner in the next room, and she said, quote, it's far out.
BECKEL: You need to pick out something like this and to go with it and make a big deal.
TANTAROS: But, Bob, this doesn't --
BECKEL: It's not a big. It's ridiculous we're talking about it.
PERINO: There's more coverage about Romney's family dog --
BECKEL: There should have been.
PERINO: -- traveling on the top of his car than there was about -- even if it was, that they were friendly and they only got together one time. I mean, you would think that fair coverage would have covered equal.
TANTAROS: Isn't this important?
GUTFELD: A Tea Partier never bombed anybody.
TANTAROS: We didn't vet President Obama now, but at some point, we're going to have an honest conversation about who he is and where he came from at some point. Why we're getting what we're getting now?
CARLSON: Well, if you think reality matters and you are invested in that old fashioned linear Western thinking, yes, I guess. But we're very indoor iPhones, so that day may never come.
BECKEL: Just bring more evidence and we'll talk about it.
TANTAROS: Well, tune in Monday night for Megyn's full interview with Bill Ayers. That's 9:00 p.m. Eastern on "THE KELLY FILE."
And speaking of liberals who don't like America, coming up, Greg has got some concerning stats on just how many of them are in this country.
And, later --
TANTAROS: -- Bob doing yoga. Need I say more?
GUTFELD: According to a new study six out of ten liberals say that they aren't proud to be Americans. This is about as surprising as a Tom Cruise divorce. Loving your country is square. Hating your country, that's cool for a liberal, and it's in your face. It's like an attitudinal tattoo.
Of course liberals aren't proud. Their beliefs come from the assumption that America is deeply flawed and must be over hauled. The right, though, thinks America is great and the world could be overhauled under the belief that our sacrifice leads to better lives for billions.
And remember this?
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MICHELLE OBAMA, FIRST LADY: For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.
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GUTFELD: So glad we made her proud, and it's such a modest cost.
Now, I could make a list of what makes me proud of this place: our free market, our military, our innovation, Funyons. But actions speak louder than words.
If it weren't for the U.S., the world would be a pock-marked wasteland with maniacs presiding over pyramids of rotting corpses. We stopped that stuff from happening, and the moment we stop stuffing that -- stopping that stuff from happening, it's over. Our enemies can run and hide, but we must chase and then erase.
However, one cannot be proud of everything your country produces. Take our media, a smirking brothel of butt kissers. Under Obama, they've become so pliable, they make Charmin feel like cement.
So yes, be proud, but a burning disgust is a good thing, too, for it might lead to real change and get the rest of us off our butts while we still have them.
What do you make of it, Tucker? What do you make of the survey?
CARLSON: The smirking brothel of butt kissers, that's like -- I'm having that tattooed on my arm. I love that.
GUTFELD: Next to my name.
CARLSON: That's already there. This survey blew me away. I grew up in a liberal place, like you, in California. You would always hear people say, "Are you questioning my patriotism? Are you questioning my patriotism?"
CARLSON: Well, it turns out, we probably should have been.
CARLSON: It's not just dislike their country. I know a lot of liberals. And I think it's very disappointed. Sort of like the sense you get from Obama. Like, you've let me down, America. You really haven't lived up, really, to my expectations.
PERINO: You really could have done better.
GUTFELD: Yes, exactly. Bob, isn't this -- isn't this basically say a lot about the ideology that, from a liberal's perspective, we're not as good as the world, where from a conservative's perspective, we're better than the world?
BECKEL: Well, before we get to that philosophical argument, can I make this point? I've read this Pew Research study for years since they started it. It's a great study. They break this -- solid liberals represent 15 percent of the survey, which means that 40 percent represents 9 percent.
Now, if you're saying that all liberals are not proud of their country, all liberals are included in some of these other groups, and so it's insignificant. It's 9 percent, and it's -- but it's a nice way for us to play another segment, which is bias against liberals, which is fine.
It was about as -- I don't know who put it together. I mean, you talk about picking at the bottom of the barrel, you just found it.
GUTFELD: All right.
BECKEL: Learn something about polling before you put this stuff on.
GUTFELD: All right. You know a lot about polling. Anyway...
BECKEL: I do.
GUTFELD: Andrea -- I got that. Fifty-one percent of liberals think they're typical Americans. Only 51 percent. I guess that's beneath them, right, to be American?
TANTAROS: Who would want to be American? Right? We stopped Hitler; we stopped Mussolini. We stopped the Soviet Union, which was a permanent totalitarian state, imperial Japan. They don't like that.
TANTAROS: They think that Cuba is the gold standard. There needs to be this massive, impoverished class. Because then what would you do without a leftie?
I mean, Bob, you're not a real, like, dyed-in-the-wool leftie. If you've ever met one, they're really sick, sick, sick people. They are. And I want to know why they're so upset. Why aren't they proud?
Let me finish my point without you laughing. OK? They're in their golden age right now. They've passed health care reform. They got President Obama. Illegals are flooding over the border. Well, the Medicaid rules. What more they want, they haven't had a golden age since the New Deal. This is their golden age, and they're still not happy. What do we have to do? Shut the lights off in this country and shutter down for them to be proud?
BECKEL: You know what we really want? We want a return to Hitler and Mussolini (ph).
By the way, you might want to say historically, it was the Russians who had a lot more to do with doing away with Hitler than we did, but that's all right.
TANTAROS: Oh, Bob, really?
BECKEL: Twenty million people they lost. They were -- they were...
TANTAROS: The United States, we haven't done a lot.
TANTAROS: Oh, my gosh.
GUTFELD: Dana, is it -- is it the other thing?
BECKEL: That's history.
GUTFELD: Because among the -- among the left and among the hip, it's cool to hate your country, because -- mainly because the opposite, which is loving your country, comes off as so dorky.
PERINO: Perhaps or maybe that they just want to -- they just want to raise the bar. They want to keep being better. Maybe they really believe we're not as exceptional as we could be, that we're not fulfilling our potential.
GUTFELD: All right.
PERINO: I'm just trying to be nice.
GUTFELD: You are being nice. I'm surprised, I know. Well done.
PERINO: And prevent Bob from cracking up.
GUTFELD: I don't believe a word you're saying. I think you...
PERINO: I just don't -- I mean, I've been everywhere else. I had an opportunity to travel to a lot of places. I don't know any place that is better than America. Why would they want to be anywhere else?
GUTFELD: Have you said you've been around?
PERINO: Keep your mind out of the gutter, Gutfeld.
BECKEL: We all want to go to Cuba.
GUTFELD: The live-in nanny who refuses to leave. A family can't get rid of her after they fired her. She won't move, and the cops can't make her. This saga next on "The Five."
CARLSON: Picture this: you hire a nanny to live in your home with you and your kids and then she suddenly stops doing her job, so you fire her but she refuses to move out. Well, this actually happened.
It happened to the Bracamonte family. They're from California. They fired their live-in sitter, Diane Stretton, three weeks ago, but she will not leave. The 64-year-old is threatening to sue them for breach of contract, wrongful termination and what she calls false imprisonment.
Cops say they can't kick her out until the family goes through the eviction process.
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MARCELLA BRACAMONTE, WANTS TO FIRE LIVE-IN SITTER: When I call the police, they're telling me it's now a civil matter, and that I have to evict her. So this lady is welcome inside my house any time she wants to eat my food any time she wants, and harass me, basically. I'm now a victim in my home, and it's completely legal.
RALPH BRACAMONTE, WANTS TO FIRE LIVE-IN SITTER: This person is in our house. I have to go to work. My kids are still here. My wife is still here. She towers over my wife and kids, and I know that there's nothing I can do about it.
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CARLSON: Dana, is there a metaphor in this for modern American entitlement at all?
PERINO: Well, I was thinking about one of the best ways that they could get rid of her. And I was thinking if they don't have any arachnophobia, they should get a bunch of spiders and, like, put them in her room, right? Or get like some sort of like -- put some rats in there or something that will make her want to leave and then they won't have to worry about...
CARLSON: That's a very good point. Their position is a little passive. Isn't it?
BECKEL: Listen, I feel exactly like that woman most of the time I'm on this set, so I'm for her. I'm for her on this side. I'm going to lock myself over in the corner here and not get out.
CARLSON: Are you suffering from false imprisonment?
BECKEL: I'm suffering from false stories, is what I'm suffering from.
CARLSON: People think they hire -- not to be preachy, but people do think they hire, like, live-in help and all their problems will be solved, don't they?
TANTAROS: Yes. And I do think the family, they're a bunch of jerks, actually. I side with the nanny on this one.
TANTAROS: Yes. If you dig deeper into this story and maybe this nanny is a little bit of a loose cannon, but they hired this retiree because they didn't want to pay her. They're not paying this woman. They're giving her free room and board. I assume she's getting Social Security.
So this Bracamonte family, you jerks, you figure that Uncle Sam is going to pay for her. So essentially, they have this woman living in a home. This woman you just saw goes, that's not her home. This woman has rights. You can't just evict her. Now she's homeless, basically, in her own -- they're trying to get rid of her. They padlocked the refrigerator. This family gets what they deserve. This is ridiculous.
BECKEL: Good for you, Andrea. Good for you.
CARLSON: Wait a second. This is my first time on this show. You're here every day. Two out of 4 of the permanent hosts here side with the nanny. Does that shock you?
GUTFELD: Well, side story, I hired a nanny, and the same thing happened to me when she found out I had no kids.
Look, OK, here's the nanny. The nanny has filed 37 lawsuits, so she's what's called a vexatious litigant. She's actually on a list.
I do -- I am pro nanny in the sense that they aren't paying her. But I really -- you're having somebody come into somebody's house and no longer should be there and is refusing to leave. Isn't that a metaphor for our White House? We'll be right back.
TANTAROS: They are not paying her.
GUTFELD: I was going to say immigration.
CARLSON: You show up in someone's country, all of a sudden, you're apprised of your rights and the next thing you know, you're the one filing lawsuits.
TANTAROS: This woman is not getting paid. She has no money to move out and mind a home on her own home. And they want her to care for their kids morning, noon and night.
PERINO: But didn't she know that? I mean, presumably she knew, she made a decision to take the job for room and board.
TANTAROS: But she probably needed a place to stay.
PERINO: Right, she took a job for room and board.
TANTAROS: She has rights.
BECKEL: ... President Obama in this segment.
CARLSON: It's about Obama!
We have to go. Don't go away. Up next, Bob, Robert Beckel, took part in one of the world's largest yoga's class again. It was outside; it was in public, and we have the tape, it was outside.
BECKEL: Largest guy. Largest guy in class.
CARLSON: You won't want to miss it.
BECKEL: I want to apologize immediately for that song that just preceded this.
I made a new year's resolution to try to get in shape, so I'm working on it. Last year, I took a yoga class in Times Square to help kick off the Summer Solstice. It was so much fun I thought I'd give it another try.
BECKEL: I'm here in Times Square, where we're having the summer solstice yoga. It's my second year in a row, and the last time I said I'd never do it again. Wrong. Nepal (Ph) Yoga is so unbelievable that I simply had to be here, plus the fact the women are the best looking women I've ever seen any place in America.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Head down, elbows up.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Open up your chest. Open up the heart chakra.
BECKEL: It's my favorite part.
Now do we fly?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Elbows up, chin up. Suck your stomach in and very slowly go down.
BECKEL: You are kidding me.
How did I get talked into this this?
This is supposed to be a dead man's pose and there's a good reason they call it that because I'm dead.
Now, this is a new yoga pose. It's called everybody get together and squeeze.
You're a killer. Do you know that?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm a killer?
BECKEL: Yes, you're a killer.
I couldn't get the zippy dog what is it called?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We didn't do downward dog.
BECKEL: We didn't?
How do you do a downward dog?
Downward dog, right?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't put your head on there.
BECKEL: How do you do that? Get out of here, man. Nobody can do that. How long can you hold that for?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Not that much longer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She got it.
BECKEL: It was an interesting experience. And I must say that I'll be here every year as long as the female species exists, and I expect that will be a long time.
Namaste, peace, goodbye from "The Five."
BECKEL: Well, there you go. It was a lot of fun. I tell you, man, Tucker, I got to tell you something, man. I don't know if you've ever done this before, but the women are so -- in such good shape they can go in all different directions. You only -- it gets you imagining things, you know what I mean?
CARLSON: I'm married to a woman like that. I love it.
CARLSON: Oh, yes.
BECKEL: She does yoga like that?
CARLSON: She's fit, man. She can beat me in an arm wrestling competition, for sure.
BECKEL: Oh, man, what do you...
She could have done a lot better. And you couldn't, right?
CARLSON: Oh, definitely.
TANTAROS: You think you'll start doing yoga more?
BECKEL: No. I mean, it's to -- look at it. I mean, you got to move yourself. Dana does it; you do this stuff, right?
TANTAROS: And you do those things?
CARLSON: That was a guarded "yes."
PERINO: I can do a lot of those things. I mean, I don't do yoga outside, and I don't do bikram's yoga anymore. I did it for six months in San Diego when I lived there. And it's very time consuming in your day. Because it's an hour-and-a-half-long class, and you've got to get there a half an hour beforehand to get a spot. And you've got to wait a half an hour so you can cool down and you go home. So it's too much part of my day.
BECKEL: Can you put your foot up on your thigh like that?
PERINO: Of course, I can. That's how I stand in the green room.
BECKEL: Greg, an you do that?
GUTFELD: Yoga is a tool of Satan. I thought we all knew that. It fills your mind with pernicious thoughts that should be concentrating on greater, more spiritual things. I refuse to participate in anything that lends itself to the underworld.
BECKEL: I think that's exactly right.
This woman -- one quick thing here. This woman in this section kept saying -- you've got to be quiet, because I'm trying to talk to people. And there were "Five" fans outside there yelling, "The Five," "The Five." And the lady goes -- the guy comes up to me and says, "You got to keep it quiet here."
I said you're in the middle of Times Square in the summer -- right -- in the summer at noon, and you expect it to be quiet? I mean, come on. Give me a great break. They were too serious this year, but I found it -- there you go. The dipping dog, you got to try it.
TANTAROS: I love your white suspenders.
BECKEL: You've got to try the dipping dog at about 2 in the morning. It's great.
PERINO: Who talked you into the headband?
TANTAROS: I'll say, the coordination with the headband.
CARTER: You look like Arthur Ashe.
BECKEL: I got talked into it by Josh, which was a good reason. I didn't like it from the very beginning.
PERINO: If Josh is giving you things to wear you should think about it.
BECKEL: I know. Exactly right. We weren't in the village.
TANTAROS: Did you get a date or anything? Did you get a date, at least?
BECKEL: No, I tried. I got turned down twice.
"One More Thing" is up next.
PERINO: Time now for "One More Thing" on this fun Friday -- Andrea.
TANTAROS: OK. You are going to love this story. And you're going to love Amy Adams, the actress, even more when you hear what she did on a recent flight.
She gave up her first-class seat for a soldier sitting in the back in coach. She did it very quietly. She does not want anyone to know she had done it. But someone on the plane noticed that she had swapped seats with very little fanfare and tweeted it out. And "Inside Edition" caught up with her as she was exiting the airport.
And she said, "Look, I didn't do it for attention for myself. I did it for attention for the troops." Adams' father is also a veteran. So that is a display of nice Hollywood behavior. I encourage more of it, instead of Shia LaBeouf behavior, which everyone else is talking about.
GUTFELD: You lay off Shia. He's had a rough...
PERINO: Shia pet.
GUTFELD: You know Shia LaBeouf has every vowel in his name?
PERINO: That's very interesting.
GUTFELD: And don't say "y," because "y" is not a vowel.
PERINO: "Y." "Y," Greg, "Y."
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GUTFELD: I hate these people!
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GUTFELD: All right. I got a pen, a new pen, and I want to show you so you can get -- see what's on the pen. There, it says it's made of recycled material. It's also the worst pen I have ever had in my life, and there's nothing worse than a bad pen.
Do you see how close it is to the thing?
PERINO: Oh, I hate that.
GUTFELD: So you can't write. It's like if you -- don't buy recycled stuff if it doesn't work because it only encourages people to make crappy stuff out of recyclable stuff. Recycling -- recycling is the tool of Satan.
PERINO: And then what are you going to do? You're going to throw it away.
GUTFELD: Yes, I'm going to throw this away, and they're going to recycle it and make it worse. It's an endless satanic cycle.
BECKEL: They have recycled toilet paper now. You know that?
GUTFELD: Oh, that's disgusting.
TANTAROS: I won't be stealing that pen. Bob, you're next.
BECKEL: I'm next? Take a look at this thing. Talk about a pilot who knows what he's doing. You know the harrier jets, they go out of aircraft carriers? Look at this. This guy is landing. He's lost his landing gear. Right? He's lost his landing gear, comes down and brings this thing down and makes a perfect landing.
And I got to tell you, if I fly anywhere, I'd like to be with that dude. They put him on top of a...
GUTFELD: No, he's handing on the healthcare bill.
BECKEL: No, he's probably handing on Obama, who's golfing. OK, good.
PERINO: Up next...
BECKEL: Next I want to thank everybody for making this such a pleasurable show for a liberal.
PERINO: Well, we have loved your contributions tonight, Bob.
OK, my "One More Thing" is you want to go to this event tomorrow in Washington D.C. It's push-ups for charity. It's to raise awareness for the troops. It's for BootCampaign.com.
So what basically it is, is you have to do as many push-ups as you can do in 90 seconds. They have -- there's this little video here for you. They're raising about $100,000. You can go to Vietnam Memorial, Korean Memorial and the World War II Memorial, all right there by the Lincoln Memorial. You know, that whole mall area in Washington, D.C. If you're there tomorrow, just go and impress your girlfriend. Give it a shot.
BECKEL: I could do one.
PERINO: You couldn't do one?
BECKEL: I could do one, maybe.
CARLSON: I saw you do downward dog.
OK, I was on a plane this afternoon. It was hot and turbulent, so I closed my eyes and thought about a cabin in the woods. I suspect many people do the same thing. If you're one of them, go to this website. It's one of the best things on the Web. It's called CabinPorn.com. Don't let the name fool you; it's not filth. It's beautiful; endless pictures of cabins in the woods around the world. It's like a vacation in your head.
BECKEL: But they are -- It is a porn site.
CARLSON: It's a great site.
PERINO: That's right -- it's fun (ph) now.
All right. Don't forget to set your DVRs so you never miss an episode of "The Five." We'll see you back here on Monday. Have a great weekend, everyone.
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