Did Obama take shot at Bush over military action in Iraq?

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," June 19, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling, along with Andrea Tantaros, Bob Beckel, Dana Perino and Brian Kilmeade.

It's 5 o'clock in New York City. And this is "The Five."


BOLLING: The fight over Iraq's largest oil refinery rages on today as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria continues its push towards Baghdad. Earlier today, President Obama finally spoke out on the advances of Islamic terror group, and military options are not off the table.


BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We will be prepared to take targeted and precise military action if and when we determine that the situation on the ground requires it.


BOLLING: Well, he did stress, however, that this will not include boots on the ground.


OBAMA: Let me repeat, what I've said in the past, American combat troops are not going to be fighting in Iraq again.


BOLLING: But in the end, he went back to the old well, ducking ownership, and, of course, blaming Bush.


OBAMA: But what's clear from the last decade is the need for the United States to ask hard questions before we take action abroad, particularly military action.


BOLLING: OK. Ands, you want to summarize -- I mean, he laid out five points, and we won't go into it. But the takeaway at least, no boots on the ground, but military option's on the table.

ANDRES TANTAROS, CO-HOST: OK. So, he's going to send some advisers over. It's a little bit of a contradiction, because he blamed Maliki for not giving legal authority or immunity, I should say for U.S. troops earlier. But do these current advisers have any kind of legal immunity? It's a pretty good question.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: They say they don't need it.

TANTAROS: I guess they don't need it now, OK. It's a very hypocritical contradictory administration.

I don't see what the advisers are going to do, Eric. I don't see what airstrikes are going to do. I don't understand why we would bomb and hurt a number of civilians just -- I think delaying the inevitable, because ISIS is the group that essentially hugs the population.

It's too late. It is sliding into a sectarian civil war. It is not the job of the United States of America to come in and defend Maliki and his 900-person army and the Shia militia if they can't do it themselves.

So, I would have liked what president Obama did better if he would have said, I'm not going to do anything. I'm not. Let them fight it out.

BOLLING: Hey, let them fight it out.

Bob, Jennifer Griffin reported earlier that ISIS is becoming more of an army than a terror group. Does that change it for you?

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Well, no, it doesn't change the game at all. I mean, I think this is I've said often times, this was predictable. We could have seen this coming when we invaded Iraq.

The fact is, there are a lot of Shias out there to fight. So, I would not be so quick to give up Baghdad here or give up the oil refinery. There's a lot of questions whether this group has it or not. But the fact that there was a lack of intelligence what bothers me. The thing is, you can't put together something like this and start moving on the largest oil refinery in the country and not know something about it. Apparently, we did.

BOLLING: It's what they do. Did Obama make the right call saying --

BECKEL: Yes, absolutely.

BOLLING: They would send up to 300 security advisers, as Andrea points out, and maybe some air missions, targeted and precise military actions.

BECKEL: Yes. That's all you're going to do -- what else are you going to do.

BOLLING: Your thoughts on what the package President Obama presented.

PERINO: Well, yesterday, President Obama invited the bipartisan congressional leaders to the Oval Office, and the reports out of that, including from Nancy Pelosi was that the president had not come to any firm decisions, and that it was more of a general discussion. Less than 24 hours later, the president I guess maybe felt compelled to come to the podium to say that he was going to send these 300 security advisers.

I think that he also made a case today for why it was irresponsible, dangerously so, to leave Iraq without a status of forces agreement in 2011. However, I also at this point, just realistic and logical, and you sometimes just have to be for what is going to happen.

So, what is going to happen here? You have 300 advisers. Can they go and recommend something to president Obama that he will accept. Chances are, no. If you look at most of the security advisers that have left the administration, including Secretary Gates and Secretary Clinton, two of the main things that they recommended were rejected by President Obama.

So I don't know -- I'm open to hearing what these advisers will recommend. But as Andrea said, once these terrorists as their tactic is, to get themselves immersed into the population, into the civilian population, not exactly sure what we will be able to do.

My last point is, President Obama took the oath to preserve, protect and defend the country. I believe that he takes that oath very seriously. I do not understand yet, and I'm willing to have an open mind on it, how inaction actually will allow him to fulfill that obligation.

BOLLING: Brian, let me ask you this. A lot of people have floated the idea of splitting up Iraq into three groups, with the Sunnis, the Kurds and the Shiites each get their own area of the country. President Obama addressed that saying U.S. will not pursue any avenue that will benefit one sector over another inside Iraq. But when you think about it, the most important part of Iraq is the oil installations in the southern and the water ports. That's where the most value is.

Who gets that, and who decides that?

BRIAN KILMEADE, CO-HOST: Well, where they are is in -- with the Shia. And where they are is with the Kurds. Where they're not is with the Sunnis.

So, what you have to do, when you look at all three, if you had to take a group that acted like adults which is totally thankful for the U.S. help, prior to the invasion, is the Kurds. We said, we're going to give you a no-fly zone after your gas. They said, that's all we need.

We are an enterprising country that evidently looks like Western Europe. So, right now, they need some protection. They've got rusty old guns going against our new stuff, which the Sunnis have taken away because the Shias have dropped their weapons. And they have our Humvees and they have a few tanks, and they all weaponry and they're using it possibly against our advisers.

But those advisers are going in to now to advise things on the ground to help those who don't want to fight.

I ask you this. When there is a warrant put out for the vice president's arrest because he's Sunni, is that a hint that maybe things are going afoul. I ask you in February, when Fallujah falls to this ISIS group, is that a hint something's going afoul. Why are we waiting until today, let alone last Friday --

BECKEL: That raises the question why we allow Maliki to stay in office in the first place.

PERINO: Well, he was elected.

BECKEL: He was elected by the people to promise that he was going to include, the Sunnis were going to be included in the government and he reneged on it.

BOLLING: But, expand, while we're waiting before we do what?

KILMEADE: If you want to affect things subtly and behind the scene, number one, the residual force. But having said that, there is no legitimate push to get a residual force in there to keep our leverage on the ground, to keep Iran out. After we brought peace to that region and they ran on it and they got elected on it.

But having said on this, I want to build on what you said. You said that why isn't the intelligence better? The reason the intelligence isn't better is because we totally pulled out and left.

Why is Maliki allowed to do what he's doing? It's because --

TANTAROS: Maliki told us to leave and we did.

KILMEADE: He didn't. If we said --

TANTAROS: President Obama never really --

KILMEADE: It's not true.

TANTAROS: But, Brian, you're asking president Obama to do something that he never wanted to do. He's actually now calling for political solution, in a country that was never ready for democracy. It is --


TANTAROS: Let me finish. It was deeply rooted in ethnic hatred from the get-go, never ready for democracy. And we made the mistake of thinking that somehow, that they're marching, when they have people's heads on a stick, they're federalists.

KILMEADE: Those are the terrorists. They're different from the Sunnis that we worked with to get the surge going. That's different.

BOLLING: We don't know -- part of the problem is, we're not sure who we're arming, who we're backing.

TANTAROS: That's right.

BOLLING: And they keep jumping from one country to another, changing flags, dropping stuff, running, taking the uniforms off.

Here's where you get in real trouble -- when you start playing games with people who hate you, when you start negotiating with people who hate you. Can you roll it?


JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: We are interested in communicating with Iran to make clear that the Iranians know what we're thinking, and we know what they're thinking.

OBAMA: Our view is that Iran can play a constructive role, if it is helping to send the same message to the Iraqi government that we're sending, which is, that Iraqi only holds together if it's inclusive.


BOLLING: We're bringing it around.

Ands, is this a dangerous, dangerous tactic to play games negotiating with Iran?

TANTAROS: Absolutely. They're not our friends. They're already in - - which is the biggest threat. They already do have a presence with the Quds force already in Iraq. We should not be talking to Iran.

But, again, we're expecting President Obama to somehow act in a way that he's not wired to act. This is the same president who said let's allow NATO to nuclear disarm western portion of Europe. Why? Why? Because he said Iran wasn't a threat.

So, I mean, I can't follow this White House. So I would much rather have us out of that region and not participating in that region, rather than do what they've done up to this point which is ignore all the signs, ignore the advice from military leaders. This is not a president who's committed to just about anything, let alone getting involved in a crisis, a civil war in the Middle East, which he seems very comfortable allowing them to gain their caliphate.

If he's not comfortable with it, he's certainly making it very easy for them to do.

BECKEL: One of the things, first of all, Vice President Joe Biden was the first to suggest the tripartite of Iran and it wasn't a bad idea. But I hate to say this --

TANTAROS: Yes. But President Obama and John Kerry just said, we're going to work with Iran.


BECKEL: The one thing that is almost certain is that Saddam Hussein, as much as we disliked him, is the one thing that kept the Iranians in check.


BOLLING: Please, you know, I love you, brother. I love you, but you've got to stay on -- we're talking about President Obama and John Kerry --

BECKEL: You want to blame Obama for --

BOLLING: -- saying they're going to negotiate with the people who want us off the map and want Israel off the map.

BECKEL: The one thing Iranians don't want is to have a Sunni take over Baghdad. So, maybe, just maybe, they may have intelligence that will help. It never should have gotten there in the first place because we never should have been there in the first place.

BOLLING: Can we trust the Iranians, Dana?

PERINO: Well, I think what the administration is trying to tell us is that you don't have a choice, because I actually think that -- I'm fine to argue that 2003 invasion, as long as we also then are honest about what happened in 2011, which he kind of talked about here.

I want to mention one thing about John Kerry. So, one of the things President Obama mentioned, said today is that he is sending Secretary Kerry now to Iraq to deal with it. You know in the last several months, there had been no high-level contacts between the Obama administration and anyone in Iraq. So, now, we're sending the secretary of state who has spent the last almost two years on a failed mission to try to bring the Israelis and Palestinians together when they're basically allowing Iraq to go further and further into a politically and diplomatic terrible situation.

So, now, John Kerry has to go back and try to fix a problem that I just don't see that the administration laid it out today.

BECKEL: I hate to be blatant about this, do we care what Iraq falls into it?



KILMEADE: What happened in Afghanistan?

BECKEL: They --


KILMEADE: Al Qaeda just sat there, a nesting place. This group is worse than al Qaeda, according to al Qaeda. So, let's just leave them alone and --


BECKEL: We're going to stop them? You want boots on the ground and stop them?

KILMEADE: There are absolutely ways to do it, and ignoring it is not the way to do it.

PERINO: How would you -- Bob, how would you suggest then that America's actually going to be able to fulfill its obligation to protect the country from terrorist attack if we allow a safe haven that's crossing borders -- erasing borders from 1916 and having all of this territory in order to bring foreign fighters to that area to fight and come back into our countries? How do you expect --

BECKEL: There are other places they will try to do that. I think we're much better equipped to do it. We have no reason except to protect Israel.

PERINO: You have no faith in government except for --

BECKEL: I have no faith in being able to look at history and say that the Iranians and Afghanis are going to be brought under control. It's absurd.

PERINO: Well, what about the terrorist, what if it's just a lone wolf? How are you going to track them?

BECKEL: Well, I assume the Homeland Security --

PERINO: You assume. That's what bothers me. I am not convinced.

BECKEL: You want to put 20,000 troops on the ground to find one person?

PERINO: Who in the world -- please, if you could just show me, who has suggested sending 20,000 troops? Another straw man.

BECKEL: When Obama said we're going to --

PERINO: Obama says that because he's fighting against something that doesn't exist. No one has suggested sending 20,000 troops --

BECKEL: OK. So without troops in Iraq, is there any chance to save Iraq?

KILMEADE: Listen, 2011 it was done. They took their hands off the wheel and turned around. They had a responsibility to monitor it like they did Japan and Germany, and the president pulled out because he didn't like --


BOLLING: When Allison goes like this. It's been dropped. We've got to wrap the segment up. We went almost 13 minutes.

Next up, Ed Henry is going to join us. He mixed it up with Jay Carney on his last -- on Jay Carney's last day as press secretary yesterday. We're going to ask him about that.

And later, don't miss a very special segment from the 2014 Special Olympics. Andrea's going to have that for you. So, stick around.


PERINO: Yesterday was Jay Carney's last day as press secretary.



And he went one more round with our very own Ed Henry.




HENRY: Will the White House pledge at least to guarantee that you will work to find them?

HENRY: As the IRS has said, Ed, they're producing 67,000 e-mails sent or received from Lois Lerner. We were asked if we would produce them. We did in fact do a search for all communications between Lois Lerner and any person within the executive office of the president for this period. We found zero e-mails, sorry to disappoint.


PERINO: FOX's chief White House correspondent is with us now.

Ed, I want to ask you -- does the White House have any idea the enormity of this story, and how arrogant that sounds that they looked and they have nothing, sorry to disappoint?

HENRY: Well, look, they genuinely believe inside the White House that this is much ado about nothing. And you heard, when, you know, Jay Carney said, look, there were 67,000 e-mails turned over that were sent or received by Lois Lerner, but everything knows who's been either in politics, or Wall Street, any investigation, the key is maybe the other 100, or the other five, or the other two e-mails that are not turned over. I mean, we just, frankly, don't know what else might be out there because now, we're hearing the e-mail crashed, the hard drive's been destroyed. Nobody really knows. And lawmakers on the Hill are now trying to get to the bottom of it.

In terms of the fact Jay Carney saying, look, they did a search and there were no e-mails between Lois Lerner and anyone inside the White House, that obviously still leaves open the possibility e-mails between Lois Lerner and Democrats on the Hill, if -- and I stress if -- she was coordinating anything in terms of attacks on conservative groups. They previously said that liberal groups were also targeted.

But, frankly, we just don't know the scope of this thing if e-mails are missing. And that's the bottom line.

KILMEADE: Any indication, Ed, that there's a Democrat as outraged at the IRS's behavior and tongue-in-cheek "I've lost all my homework" excuse, that six other higher ups, including Lois Lerner, have brought to the table? Any indication that things have changed come hearing time on the Oversight Committee?

HENRY: No, not really. This is mostly been Republicans raising a stink about it. I think what's interesting would be if the IRS was investigating Brian Kilmeade, and you're saying, look, I'm trying to prove to you that I paid my taxes or I got the right reimbursement here. But I just can't find the emails.


HENRY: It would be interesting to see whether or not they would take the excuse that your computer crash.

KILMEADE: I think they'll cut me some slack.

HENRY: You're a good guy, I think they probably would.

KILMEADE: I'm going to go clean my server.

PERINO: I'm going to hand it over to Eric, but I just want to mention, Ed, my point on the enormity of it is that maybe they think they don't have a problem. But the Gallup poll today showed today that President Obama is under 50 percent of every income bracket, every gender and every age group. And so, I do think some of these things are taking a toll and they don't want to admit it.

HENRY: Well, I didn't want to be flippant -- yes, and I didn't want to be flippant with you. I understand your question, and it's a valid one. I just think inside the White House, from the president on down, the president publicly said this is a phony scandal. He told Bill O'Reilly during the Super Bowl interview, there's not a smidgen of corruption.

So, I'm trying to answer your question honestly, they don't believe this is a real scandal. I think the poll you mentioned is interesting. But I also think the NBC/"Wall Street Journal" poll from yesterday, which is a very respected nonpartisan poll, and it said a majority of the public doesn't believe the president can lead during the rest of his term. I don't think that's just about the IRS, it might be about a whole host of issues. But that suggests credibility problems.

PERINO: All right. Eric?

BOLLING: So, Ed, so, first, they tell us the e-mails -- they say the e-mails were lost. It's probably sitting on the hard drives. Then they conveniently said today, oh, those hard drives, we threw them out by accident. We accidently threw them out or recycled them or whatever. It becomes less and less believable, ludicrous, out of control.

Do they really think we're that stupid, Ed? I mean, let's sit there and go, look at Jay Carney, or Josh Earnest and go, am I supposed to report this to our viewers that this actually happened?

HENRY: Well, look, I think Jay Carney does raise a valid point that if 67,000 e-mails have been turned over, related to Lois Lerner, we should acknowledge that there has been some cooperation in this investigation. Their allegation, though, then, the implication there, from the White House is, we've turned over all those e-mails so there's nothing else here, you know, move on.

You know, when you hear that -- you know, a hard drive was destroyed, we just don't have it anymore, obviously an eyebrow is raised. I have no evidence there was a more massive scandal. I'm not going to darkly hint at anything. But certainly as a reporter, your ears go up, your eyebrows go up, everything gets curious.

BOLLING: That's my job, though. I will not darkly hint that. I'm going to go out and say, this is a cover-up, this is a scandal, this is conspiracy. We're going to find out later, though.

PERINO: Let's get Andrea in here.

TANTAROS: Ed, if we could pivot to Iraq. The president, of course, today announcing he's going to send 300 military advisers from the United States, to help the Iraqi military. Little bit of a contradiction, though, because today, he blamed Maliki for that status of forces agreement that the White House said, look, it didn't give immunity to American troops, that's why he had to leave.

Any legal immunity for those 300 military advisers?

HENRY: Well, on the face it, it doesn't appear there's legal immunity. And I thought it was interesting that my colleague at ABC, Jon Karl, shouted to the president as he walked out of the room, is there legal immunity for these troops? He didn't answer.

Now, in fairness, White House officials have since gotten back to us and said: (a), they believe there's legal immunity because these military advisers will be around the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, and like, embassy personnel, they'll have legal immunity, the White House says. We'll see obviously if these personnel, these military advisers have to respond to something, these militants get closer to Baghdad and they get drawn into something, will they still have legal immunity if somebody accidently gets killed, an Iraqi citizen? We'll see.

So, that's on the table, I guess.

BECKEL: Ed, does it make you feel good, as it should any human being, to be able to give something to somebody else in the course of the day? You gave Jay Carney, one of his great wishes, to get rid of you out of the room. Do you guys have as contentious relationship as it looks like, or do you guys actually yell at each other and then go drink afterwards?

HENRY: I haven't had a drink with Jay Carney in a long time.

BECKEL: That doesn't mean you haven't had a drink in a long time.

HENRY: Yes. Well, I probably have had a couple of drinks since then. But no, in all serious, it got pretty contentious. You know, I used to actually get -- I'm trying to look at the peak of the table here. It used to get contentious with the lady there at the table, Dana Perino, and we've since patched it up.

PERINO: Yes, I was just trying to remember when you were at CNN and I was at the white house if you ever bought me a drink. And I think the answer was no. Therefore --

HENRY: Wait a second --

PERINO: -- when you're next stop in New York City, you can make it up to ne.

HENRY: Yes. But I want you to correct the record, because I bought you a cup of tea at Teaism across Lafayette Park. I remember that distinctively because --

PERINO: Oh, they have the best tea. They had the best tea. I love it there.

HENRY: You used to take a walk. You called it a loop around the white house grounds. I would like to sneak up behind you to try to get some information.

PERINO: That's true.

HENRY: So, I bought you tea.

KILMEADE: That's getting interesting.

PERINO: It's not that interesting, Brian. It's not interesting.

KILMEADE: OK, sorry.

PERINO: All right. Thanks, Ed.

Up next on "The Five," if you're planning a trip to Mexico anytime soon, Bill O'Reilly is going to try to talk you out of that.


BILL O'REILLY, FOX NEWS HOST: It's time for all of us to stop going there. That country's not our friend.


PERINO: Stay tuned.


KILMEADE: Bob likes the song.

Hey. There are a lot of nice places to visit in Mexico, like Cancun, for example, or Cabo, according to Sammy Hagar (ph). But if you're thinking of going, Bill O'Reilly wants you to think twice about it.


O'REILLY: It is time for all of us to stop going there. That country's not our friend. It knows, and helps the millions of people that are crossing its territory to enter the USA illegally. Add to that, the marine, Sergeant Tahmooressi, who has post-traumatic stress disorder, incarcerated down there. And you have Mexican President Nieto giving us the middle finger.

Well, you know what, Mr. Nieto? You know what? I'm not going to your country. And I'm asking every American to boycott you. Because you and your government is harming the USA.


KILMEADE: A total lack of respect. I 100 percent agree. I think it took great courage to do that. And I think we have a lot of choices when it comes to vacationing. What Mexico lives on is the tourist dollar. And that's the only thing that will get their attention.

When you think about it, Congressman Duncan Hunter did a little study and got some stats. There's been 300 separate times where Mexican military have come into the U.S. since 2004.

How many times have we kept them in captivity? We put them, we talk to them, we send them back where they belong. And I'll tell you, Eric, I think it's about time Mexico, if the president's not going to demand it, I think it's about time the average American citizen, like the very average Bill O'Reilly, makes that demand.

BOLLING: It's great. And I've never been for boycotts. I'm against boycotts. I don't like that.

By the way, Bill O'Reilly and I get along, because I like to push back on some of the things he has to say. It's not always -- listen, I disagree with Bill on this. I think we need to press. I think we need to do it diplomatically. I think we need to do it in the media. Great, go for it.

But to ask Americans not to go there, I think that's asking too much.

How about this? Rather than boycott vacationing in Mexico, threaten Mexico. We'll send your people back. We're going to send back all those people that are flooding our borders if you don't fix this situation. I think that might get their attention.

KILMEADE: Right. That's the border state. These kids are coming into our country at a dizzying rate and making us look like terrible people because we can't absorb them all.

But guess what country they're walking through, Dana? They're walking through Mexico.

PERINO: I have no plans to go there anyway...

KILMEADE: So you're going to go -- you're technically you're onboard.

PERINO: Technically. But here's the danger of calling for a boycott. The story now today is the boycott. We have not talked about, or shown pictures of all the children who are being sent across. So then you actually stop putting the pressure where it actually needs to be, which is on Mexico for what you just said, which is allowing them to come across, rather than on the boycott. They're not mutually exclusive, why not do both?

TANTAROS: I don't think this administration thinks it's a crime to cross over the border illegally. They want to reward them. It would be if we solved the immigration issue. And started sending them back. A huge hit to the wallet of Mexico. Because so many come here, work, and send the money back to Mexico and don't keep it in the United States.

However, I like what Bill O'Reilly's saying. To be honest, I looked at a couple vacation destinations, and I thought, you know what? I'm not going to go to Mexico, because they still have Sergeant Tahmooressi. I'm not going to go; I'm not going to spend my money there. If thousands and thousands of Americans did that, it maybe would wake them up a little bit. So I say I agree with Bill on this.

KILMEADE: What about Montauk, Long Island? It's a great place.

BECKEL: Yes, great place. Can't wait to get there. First of all...

KILMEADE: Real quick, because Hillary Clinton said, "I would -- I would tell those kids, you've got to go home, you can't stay."

BECKEL: Let's keep in mind that the northern states of that country, I lived in Guadalajara for two years, which is more of a central/southern state. And the northern states are run by the military and the drug cartels. That's why these kids are coming across. The Mexican government doesn't do anything. You know but not the way they are now. There's 50,000 deaths on the border.

BOLLING: These kids are coming from Honduras and Guatemala. The drug cartels are getting into America through Mexico, as Brian points out. Mexicans coming over

BECKEL: That's right.

TANTAROS You lived in Guadalajara?


TANTAROS: There are many layers to Bob...

KILMEADE: Wow. That's a story.

BECKEL: My best friend went to medical school in Guadalajara, and he's probably one of the worst anesthesiologists. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. I was only kidding. You're one of the best.

KILMEADE: Kind of knock you out, and you're kind of ready for surgery?

BECKEL: I don't know. I don't see the grosses. I don't want to see the data (ph). It's disgusting.

KILMEADE: All right. I want to make sure your block is long. So why don't I get out now while I still have a little bit of credibility with the control room?

BECKEL: OK, fine.

KILMEADE: Up next, you're going to see special athletes doing some remarkable things. Andrea's been keeping close tabs on the Special Olympics this week.

And she even helped kick off the games, by the way. She's going to tell us all about it. That is coming up only if you keep it on "The Five."


TANTAROS: There is a much more exciting porting event happening right now than the World Cup. Yes, Brian, it's the 2014 Special Olympics. And I had the honor of taking part in the opening ceremonies on Sunday. These games are very close to my heart, and you're about to see why.



TANTAROS (voice-over): The 2014 USA Special Olympics are under way. New Jersey is the proud state to host the games this year. More than 4,000 athletes of all ages from all 50 states and Washington, D.C., are competing in 16 sports, like tennis, basketball, baseball, and soccer.

Special Olympics were founded in 1968 by Eunice Kennedy Shriver, sister of president JFK.


TANTAROS: Shriver believed that, if people with intellectual disabilities were given the same opportunities as everyone else, they would accomplish far more than anyone thought possible.

She was right. Forty-six years later, 4 million athletes now compete for gold in more than 170 countries. I had the opportunity to speak with her son Timothy before the opening ceremonies.

(on camera): Could your mom ever have imagined it getting so big and so successful?

TIMOTHY SHRIVER, SON OF EUNICE KENNEDY SHRIVER: You know, I think she imagined that when people's hearts were open, the world could change. That was always her vision. That, you know, through sports, we could bring people together. And just crack them open.

TANTAROS (voice-over): I had the incredible honor on June 15 to co- host the parade of athletes in Newark, New Jersey. My younger brother, Daniel, was also once a Special Olympian. He passed away last August. Daniel had autism, and he never spoke, but boy, did he love being an athlete. Daniel was an equestrian who won multiple medals. He made all of us who loved him so very proud.

(on camera): I'm honored to be here today and humbled to celebrate his memory, and give back and thank so many of the volunteers.

(voice-over): Like my brother, 24-year-old Zach Stroik from Team New Jersey has autism. He plays goalie in soccer, and Zach didn't speak until he was 5 years old. But that's all changed.

He's going off to college in the fall. He even went to Capitol Hill in March to help lobby lawmakers to renew funding for the Special Olympics. I caught up with Zach at the torch run that kicked off outside FOX News.

(on camera): What do you love most about the game?

ZACH STROIK, SPECIAL OLYMPIAN: Well, competing hard, trying my best. We're going to try to win all the gold medals.


(voice-over): Zach and his team are on their way.

STROIK: I did not allow any goals. I saw shots going towards the goal, and I was there to stop it.

TANTAROS: This is Zach's 16th year competing in the games. How much longer does he want to play?

STROIK: Maybe my whole life.

TANTAROS: People would often describe my brother as special needs, but I always said he was uniquely special. And that's what all of these athletes around the globe are, uniquely special champions.


TANTAROS: The closing ceremony is tomorrow.

And I actually have a very exciting update for you about Zach. His team is going to go for the gold, as you heard him say. And guess what? They did it this morning. Team New Jersey won soccer gold after defeating Team Texas. So congratulations, Zach, and congratulations, Team New Jersey.

BECKEL: All the things you have done with the camera and talking to people, that was one of the most moving pieces of footage, and you're to be congratulated. I know what you went through with your brother, but I think that brings something special to it, doesn't it? I mean, the fact that you...

TANTAROS: It really does.

BECKEL: ... have that connection. But I mean, that was just -- I don't know who helped you put that together, but it was just unbelievably good.

TANTAROS: Susan Wertheim, who is our line producer here at "The Five," spent hours and hours and hours on what she calls it a labor of love to put that thing together. So Susan, thank you.

PERINO: It was excellent. And I -- you know what I love about it, too? Is that, for all that has been going on in the news in the last couple of weeks, and everybody watching the news, it's like they want to watch the news. They want to know what's going on, but they just kind of need a little bit of a lift, and you gave it to them. That is excellent. I could watch that a million times, and I hope we show it again.

TANTAROS: You know, originally, I wanted to get involved in the Special Olympics when I heard 21st Century FOX, our parent company, was going to be a sponsor.

And I wanted to have Dan there. And then, when he passed away in August, I thought, I really want to play a role in this. He couldn't compete, because he had a seizure disorder as he got older so it was hard for him to ride the horses and compete in the sports.

But I grew up with Dan. Our older siblings, Dean and Thea, grew up together, and then my parents took a break and had Dan and me, and we grew up together. So it was a real bond.

And being there with those kids, I've got to tell you: if you want to re-prioritize your life, get your right attitude in place, you hang out with those kids. They wake up every day with the deck stacked against them. And they have so many more changes than we do. And they don't complain, and they do it with a smile. Really, they teach us far more than we could ever, ever teach them.

BOLLING: Very quickly, Ands. Hats off to you, to Susan, to the producers for the great job. Wow, 4 million athletes, 104 athletes.


BOLLING: Absolutely no idea. It's getting bigger every -- each year.

PERINO: It shows how one person, Mrs. Shriver...

BOLLING: Eunice.

PERINO: ... she had an idea, and a vision, and one person could change the outcomes of life for millions.

BECKEL: You know, when she started it, it was the backyard of her house.

KILMEADE: Right. I've been to the house. The Shriver family is an extraordinary family. All those sons and daughters. It's been amazing. And I would add this. They start off on "FOX and Friends," and the law enforcement plays a major role. They're huge.

TANTAROS: Yes, they are. They're there with the kids.

KILMEADE: They're there to support them. They're there with the kids. They're fantastic.

TANTAROS: Thousands of volunteers. Thank you to 21st century FOX, the Special Olympics, T.J. Mulligan, the president, and Susan Wertheim for putting that together.

Stay tuned for "The Five's" soccer showdown coming up, another sports segment. Brian and Bob are going to duke it out on football. Brian's not happy. But Bob's cranking on it, during the World Cup. Stick around.

KILMEADE: What was that?


BECKEL: And you probably know by now, I don't like soccer. It's boring. I don't like to watch grass grow either. But my buddy, Brian Kilmeade, here he is obsessed. He's a little thin-skinned if anybody criticizes him. Listen to this.


KILMEADE: And I'll tell you, on 33rd Street of Manhattan, take that, Bob Beckel and "The Five" soccer haters. Because this place was packed with ten deep in the streets watching through the windows of the big screens in the bars since they couldn't even get there.

If your knowledge of soccer is that low, you have no business criticizing it. Because you don't understand the game enough to criticize it. Which kind of surprised me, when "The Five" took aim at me, because I am the premier soccer mind at FOX News, which is not saying much.


BECKEL: Brian, just a few questions, and we'll go around the rest of it. First of all, at that bar, did anybody speak English?

KILMEADE: All Americans.

BECKEL: Oh, they were?

KILMEADE: Yes, it was unbelievable.

BECKEL: Are you sure?

KILMEADE: Do you know that there are more Americans in Brazil watching the World Cup than anywhere else? And where I was, at the bar right by Penn Station, they were five deep on the outside...

BOLLING: You said the bar, watching Brazil and the World Cup more than anywhere else.

BECKEL: I'll tell you, Brian, there's some great things about soccer that I think we ought to...

KILMEADE: You ought to play.

BECKEL: Wait a second. You can take more bathroom breaks than you could any other sport.

KILMEADE: You'll miss a lot. You'll miss a lot.

BECKEL: No, you won't miss any.

Brian, how can you watch something that comes up "noon and noon" and find that exciting?

KILMEADE: This was only one zero-zero tie. This has been the highest scoring World Cup ever. And 17 million people agreed with me on Monday.

BECKEL: Ninety minutes you watched that? Why don't you watch grass grow?

KILMEADE: Because we have to have injury time. And the U.S. came back to beat Ghana by a final score of 2-1. And by the way, sadly to your husband, England lost moments ago.

BECKEL: Did they get into those wuss-y shorts, with that Euro trash outfits they were?

KILMEADE: Euro trash outfits? What do you mean?

BECKEL: the outfits.

PERINO: Anyone who doesn't wear suspenders.

KILMEADE: Uniforms? You don't like the tight uniforms?

BECKEL: On these guys?

KILMEADE: Now all of a sudden...

PERINO: I think we can make Bob win one tomorrow.

KILMEADE: I will say this. This is the "Wall Street Journal," which is a daily, I think. I think it's in this building. It said that soccer is at a tipping point in this country. That we're at the point where the franchises go for $100 million.

BOLLING: They've been for 30 years.

KILMEADE: I believe you.

BECKEL: Anybody who's 12 years old. Andrea, you're into rugby players these days. But do you like anything about soccer?

TANTAROS: I do. I like soccer players, too.

BECKEL: OK. That answers that. All right. Eric, I've liked to get to the end of (ph) -- she's actually bought into this crap. What about you?

BOLLING: Here's my deal. I've been on board with in this anti-soccer kick. I find it interesting, Brian, saying you don't know enough about the game. If I knew more about it -- I think I know a little bit about it. And I just can't get over it. It's flopping. You know what I hate, it's taking over. This flopping. They get hit a little bit, they lay down and roll around. And they're still in the game.

BECKEL: They're wusses. They're all wusses.

KILMEADE: Now they've started to give yellow cards for embellishment.

And the U.S. does not do the flopping. And a lot of people around the world are upset at the U.S. for not drawing the penalty. But I hate it. The NBA does it, too. That's what I don't like about the NBA, too.

BECKEL: Dana was watching Gabon -- was it?

PERINO: Ghana.

BECKEL: Oh, Ghana, excuse me. Who won?

PERINO: The USA won. The USA beat Ghana.

BECKEL: I see. That's good.

PERINO: OK. Here's the thing. I think that -- you know how you call people who don't believe in global warming Neanderthals? I actually think that people who don't understand the phenomenon that is soccer are Neanderthals.

BECKEL: OK. Can you explain me one thing? This phenomena about soccer.

PERINO: First of all, they -- the athletes run about a half a marathon every single game. That's one thing.

BECKEL: That's -- that's good.

PERINO: And they look great doing it.

BECKEL: And so do croquet players.

PERINO: And Peter had a message for you. He said he wanted you to know that all across Europe, they consider American football to be rugby for girls.


BECKEL: Oh, good. Wow. I consider soccer would be -- never mind. I won't say it.

KILMEADE: Let the record show...

BECKEL: We're supposed to wrap up. You know what? We got more out of that segment. Who ever talked about soccer so long? It will be the last time you hear about it.

"One More Thing" is up next.


BOLLING: All right. Time for "One More Thing." I'm going to start. I'm very nervous about this. I have a confession to make to our viewers. I have a confession to make to my wife and my son.

PERINO: This ought to be good.

BOLLING: I played soccer in high school.

KILMEADE: Oh, no way! Oh, my goodness!


BOLLING: The next picture, please.

BECKEL: You wuss!

TANTAROS: Oh, my gosh!

BOLLING: I was a hall of famer in my school.

KILMEADE: Are you kidding me?

BOLLING: I swear to God that's true.

TANTAROS: Wait, you talk about cover-ups on the show in the Obama administration. This is a huge cover-up.

BOLLING: Very quickly, the last picture just to make things right for me. There's Baseball Hall of Fame, OK?

PERINO: A bit obsessed (ph).

BOLLING: All right. Dana, you're good.

PERINO: That's good. I like that.

KILMEADE: You've been outed.

PERINO: I'm going to talk about a very good friend of mine. And I can't believe I get to call her a friend, because she's so talented. Kim Strossel of the Wall Street Journal, she writes editorials and a weekly column. On Friday she won last night the Bradley prize, which is awarded to four recipients for shaping public policy and ideas. She's been relentless in supporting the free market. Take a listen to what Kim said last night.


KIM STROSSEL, COLUMNIST, WALL STREET JOURNAL: The best advice I ever got came from my boss, Paul Chageault (ph), who when I moved to Washington, told me my job was to treat the people who lived inside the beltway exactly as what they were, alien species.


PERINO: Congratulations to Kim. Make sure you check out her column on Fridays in the Wall Street Journal. That means tomorrow.

KILMEADE: "FOX and Friends" this morning, we had a fan interrupt the weather cast with a sign that needed to be addressed. So this is how it went. Let's take a look.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You want to meet Brian?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I've always watched Brian on "FOX and Friends." Great personality.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are you thinking of saying to Brian when you meet him?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I hope he gives me a big hug.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here comes Brian. This is the first time that they're meeting.

STEVE DOOCY, CO-HOST, "FOX AND FRIENDS": He wants a big hug.

KILMEADE: I want to give you a photo of me.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nice to meet you, Brian.

KILMEADE: And a hug.


KILMEADE: Just a little emotional. Very nice.


TANTAROS: All right. The FOX News Channel and "The Five" lost one of our most devoted viewers the other day, Jeannie Friedman, who happens to be the grandmother of my best friend, Genevieve Hilleth. Passed away. She never missed an episode of "The Five." That was her walking with her original grandfather, Oscar Mayer, the original.

She was such a cool woman. Huge fan of Bill O'Reilly. Never missed an episode, even from her hospital.

BECKEL: Brian's going to the national Batman (ph) championship.

BOLLING: Leave it right there. Set your DVRs. Never miss an episode.

KILMEADE: That's how we're ending?

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