Gov. Perry talks union presence in Texas, Gov. Christie

Texas governor speaks out on 'Your World'


This is a rush transcript from "Your World," February 20, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

NEIL CAVUTO, HOST: The nation's number one job creator is now labor's number one target.

Texas Governor Rick Perry hardly bothered. In fact, he called it a badge of honor.

But, Governor, they're messing with Texas, I guess, in Texas, no less. What do you make of this?

GOV. RICK PERRY, R-TEXAS: I think that it's a great place for labor to spend some time, to find out what people really think about right-to-work states.

If they want to see how jobs are created and how we free people, and I will suggest to you that the -- that the union folks will learn a thing or two. They sure got a lesson learned in Tennessee about going in there and trying to put the Volkswagen folks in the union side and got their hat handed to them. So, if they think...

CAVUTO: Well, you're right about that, but, Governor, that was a surprisingly close one, though. And others in the union movement have interpret that as a sign, you know, we could have better luck because that got close as a tick. What do you say?

PERRY: Well, I think they're -- I think they're looking in the wrong place.

I put this in the same category as those that think Texas is going to turn blue this next election cycle, that battleground Texas somehow or another is going to come in and turn Texas into a blue state.

My suspicion is that the unions will have about the same luck as battleground Texas, from the standpoint of trying to talk people who are looking around, they're seeing their friends at work, they're seeing a state that has created more jobs than any other state in the nation, 30 percent of the jobs created in the last decade have been created in Texas, and somehow or another to tell people there's something wrong here and you need unions to be able to make that right? That's a tough sell in the state of Texas.

CAVUTO: If you don't mind me getting on a personal issue about you and Governor Christie. Reports are that you two don't like each other, that he goes down to Texas, you're conveniently out of town, that any place he shows up, you're not there. Conversely, you show up, he is not there.

I don't know if there is anything to that, Governor, but what do you think of Governor Christie?

PERRY: I will suggest to you there's not anything to it.

We're going to be together all weekend here. He's the chairman of the Republican Governors Association, has very important job over the course of the next 10, 11 months, as we have got, I think, over almost 30 elections that we have got to be keeping our eye on throughout the country.

CAVUTO: Well, are you doing any one-on-ones with him? Are you going out to dinner?


PERRY: Well, whatever -- whatever they would like for me to do.

I'm on the executive committee with him. And so we will be working well together and -- and making sure that Republican governors -- because that's the real story of this country, when you think about it. It's those red state governors are the ones that are creating jobs in this -- in this country, and he is our leader.

And we're going to be following his lead over the course of the next 10 or 11 months as we try to keep America on track. Without -- without these red state governors creating jobs...


PERRY: ... America really would be in trouble.

CAVUTO: I don't know if you heard my friend and colleague Charlie Gasparino talking about the fact that some of the money backers think that he's not going to run for president.

What do you think of that?


They think he's not going to run for president. Some of his financial backers.

I think we lost our connection?

PERRY: Neil, I don't know whether I have lost you or not, but the audio has gone dead on this end.


Apparently, Chris Christie's staff provided the -- the audio, too.

But, Governor, I don't know what happened there, but I apologize for that.

But, anyway, that is the story lately, that maybe Governor Christie will not run for president. And that's the buzz in the Wall Street community. Obviously, don't know.

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