NFL star Richard Sherman apologizes for angry post-game rant

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," January 21, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Kimberly Guilfoyle, along with Bob Beckel, Eric Bolling, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld.

It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is "The Five."


GUILFOYLE: Well, he's one of the best corner backs in the NFL. But now, Seattle Seahawk Richard Sherman is one of the infamous, too, after this side show on the sidelines on Sunday.


REPORTER: Final play, take me through it.

RICHARD SHERMAN, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS: Well, I'm the best corner in the game. When you try me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree, that's the result you're going to get. Don't you ever talk about me!

REPORTER: Who was talking about you?

SHERMAN: Crabtree, don't you open your mouth about the best, or I'm going to shut it for you real quick.


GUILFOYLE: Now, what was Sherman so fired up about? Well, a game- saving defensive play in the end zone involving Michael Crabtree. Now, 24 hours after that post-championship rant made headlines, Sherman issued an apology and said this to ESPN radio.


SHERMAN: Obviously, you know, the heat of the moment, everything happens like that, and you know, it is what it is. Obviously, I could have worded things better and could have had a better reaction and done things differently, but it is what it is now, and people's reactions are what they are.


GUILFOYLE: Hmm. FOX Sports reporter Erin Andrews didn't even know initially who Sherman was talking about. The look is priceless.

And that made Rush Limbaugh think about a certain someone in the White House.


RUSH LIMBAUGH, TALK RADIO HOST: Richard Sherman thinks that everybody knows, that he's got something going on with Michael Crabtree of the 49ers, and nobody knows. I'm sure Obama, at the end of the day, thinks the whole country is thinking about him every day. There are some people so lost in their egos that they really do think that everybody is fascinated with what they're doing and knows intimately everything going on in their life.


GUILFOYLE: All right, anyone at this table know that feeling? Who wants to be the first to raise your hand? But seriously, was that the first thing that came to your mind, Eric? That what is going on and make this connection?

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Sherman thinks he's Obama.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, Obama.

BOLLING: No, I love Rush, but I think he's a little off on just this one right here.

Look, here's what happened. So, Sherman, there was trash talking going back and forth all week.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, do the play-by-play.

BOLLING: Sherman, that game right there is one inch away from being a 49er win, one inch.


BOLLING: Sherman tipped it with the tip of his hand.


BOLLING: The 48er.

Kimberly, I think you were wrong in that read. He's not one of the best corners in football. He is the best corner in football.

He's got a chip on his shoulder which makes him the best corner. He was a fifth round draft pick who is now one of the elite players in the NFL. Straight-A student out of high school. First student from his high school ever to get a scholarship to Stanford, graduated near the top of his class at Stanford.

He's smart, he's got a chip, he hates to lose. Guess what, that sounds like a lot of people who may be sitting at the table who have the same thing going on, but we're not trashing us for being as passionate.

GUILFOYLE: Dana's a great cornerback?

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: listen, there's no question the guy is an outstanding cornerback, but what he did was took all the attention off his team who won that as a team. The guy had no right to shoot his mouth off like that. Now all everybody is talking about is this guy when they should be talking about an outstanding job for the Seahawks and a very good game all the way around.

I mean, who does this guy think he is?

BOLLING: What? So, because he didn't use a canned response, we had a tough game, our team played together great. Now, we look forward to Denver. That's what he should have said?

BECKEL: No, he could have said I don't want to talk about it right now, and walk away. Anything better than the rant. I know he's very smart, but on that day, he sounded like an idiot.

PERINO: He could have said, I hope I'm going to Disneyland in three weeks.

GUILFOYLE: Right. Cashing early on the endorsement.

PERINO: I think trying to connect what Sherman said to Obama is stretching the limits to like a point of yoga class I have never actually been able to achieve. I thought it was slightly refreshing that it was something different. I don't think it reflected that negatively on Seattle. I think there's two weeks between that game and the Super Bowl. There's a lot of time in between.

And his apology, I thought, was well thought out. There's a lot of adrenaline. The best part to me is Erin Andrews' face when she is so surprised about what he is saying, and shocked by it. It's almost as if she thought, did I say something negative about him? As if he was talking about her.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, (INAUDIBLE) what do you? You know, calling him out.

What do you think, Greg, about this? Much ado about nothing?

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: These stories are now coming in two parts. The first part is the act. The second part is the apology. It's the yin and yang of media outrage.

And stories like this for everybody in the media is like a roast chicken in which you can keep in the fridge for approximately two and three days and pick off what you want. So Rush says, maybe I can compare this to Obama. And then everybody else talks about this and whatnot.

And then, we completely forget about it. I was talking about this with Shep. Nobody remembers the Manti Te'o story that we did for a week. But I wish, (a), that we could have an apology-free month and a day where everyone can say something offensive. Like the purge. Remember the movie "The Purge"? But make it about language.

And also, we need to return to the virtue of humility. If you're good at something, clearly, you can let your actions speak for themselves.

BECKEL: Exactly.

GUTFELD: I blame this infection -- this infection of pop culture into all aspects of our lives that have elevated self-promotion above all else.

You can't just be happy doing a good job. You need more. You need more. The desire for more goes beyond achievement. That prevents your actual happiness. That's why he isn't happy, because he feels that he deserves more than actually winning. That's pathetic.

BOLLING: Or can I take the other side of that?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, I'm going to, too.

BOLLING: Look, free speech. It's refreshing when a guy lets loose.

GUTFELD: Nobody is telling him he can't say it.

BOLLING: But you say he has to be humble. He has to be humble in --

GUTFELD: What's wrong with being humble?

BOLLING: Nothing.

GUTFELD: I know you don't understand it.

BOLLING: That's funny. But -- that's actually a cheap shot and I don't appreciate it, but go ahead, we'll move on.

But why does he have to be humble? It's him.

GUTFELD: Not, it's actually suggestion.

BOLLING: Richard Sherman has made a career on winning, being aggressive, being passionate, and now he's got to change it because some media critics think he was a thug.

GUTFELD: No, I never said he was a thug. What I'm saying is it's not such a bad idea to be humble after you do something great. And that has nothing to do with free speech. Nobody says he can't say it. It's a pretty simple distinction.

GUILFOYLE: The one thing I'll say is that you're in a game like that, you're fighting to win, you're playing one of the best football teams, let's call it like it is, 49er football dynasty, people. Deal with that. Dynasty.


GUILFOYLE: So he's excited to be beat this team, right, because it wasn't even a big point -- like 3 1/2 that Seattle was favored by. That was a game changer right at the end. The Niners could have won but for that tipoff.

And then, you know, there's a little bit of back talk, back and forth between the team. So, he's saying, OK, you're going to try to call me out, disrespect, and the quarterback threw on him, thinking that he could get it past Sherman.

And Sherman is like, there you go. Disrespect me. I'm going to cost you the game. That's what behind it.

BECKEL: This adrenaline in the moment. Virtually, everybody on that team had press interviews afterwards. He's the only one who shot his mouth off.

I do think Kimberly makes a whole lot of sense here. And by the way, I'll say this about you. You're a very good TV guy, excellent TV guy, and you're pretty humble about it most of the time, there you go.

Me, I'm not humble, because I am very good.

PERINO: You're excellent, the best Beckel in the league.

BECKEL: So, I think a guy like this, nobody else did it. I mean, who else did it on the whole team, they all had adrenaline running.

GUILFOYLE: Well, Kaepernick is so much better, don't you think? The quarterback from Niners is humble and sweet instead --


BOLLING: The mold of a good TV interview post game. He should be, you know, literally destroyed on Twitter. I mean, there is racial commentary going back and forth.

GUILFOYLE: But that's not appropriate.

BOLLING: He's dumb. He's a thug. He's -- you know, and they use some of the worst terms you could possibly use because he wasn't that guy, that one predictable quarterback sitting in the locker room, using the same talking points that they all use because they don't frankly have anything else to go to.

PERINO: However, I think one of the other reasons it struck out is it was so different, and it's the complete opposite of what Peyton Manning said when he was -- the star interview with the Broncos after the game.

And Peyton Manning is the one that when you're watching at home, you're like, I hope my young son turns out to be just like him because he's so nice, and so -- I guess humble would be one of the words -- but also gracious. There's a lot to be said about graciousness when you win. It makes you look better and people want to root for you.

GUTFELD: I mean, that's the point, which I said yesterday. It's really good to be good and humble as opposed to just being -- you don't need to be arrogant when you're good.

GUILFOYLE: No, you don't.

GUTFELD: You don't.

GUILFOYLE: The 49ers, I thought, were very good, right? The quarterback, he gave a great speech, he took the blame on his shoulders, said, it's my fault, the team didn't win. I don't know. He's a class act.

And I want to talk about Jesus -- 

BECKEL: Could you use (ph) the word dynasty and get away from the 49ers, please?

GUILFOYLE: I want to say it 1,000 times.


GUILFOYLE: All right. Can we take a listen to this? I think this is nice juxtaposition, people, that will be your word of the day. Thank you so much.

Now, this is the Seahawks defensive coordinator talking about faith and the importance of it to this team.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jesus is better than anything we could -- even better than the Super Bowl, better than the NFL career. If we were to win the Super Bowl, tell everyone that no, Jesus is still better, because as much -- as much as we worship this thing called a ring and a championship, although we'd like to have one, for sure, I can't wait to tell people. If that happens, God willing, we'll tell people Jesus is way better still.


PERINO: Then the media is like, what are we going to do with this? What are we going to say? Remember, this happened in the Olympics when people talk about their faith and their graciousness at the end of a win. And they always -- they don't praise themselves, they thank God for it.

Remember, they tried to like edit some of that stuff out. This guy was just -- he's wearing his heart on his -- his faith on his sleeve. And I found it really refreshing.

GUILFOYLE: He's there with the quarterback, Russell Wilson, and a bunch of the players are nodding their head in agreement about this.

BOLLING: This is making the point I was trying to make as well. So, here we have the extreme on the other side. So, as Sherman is extreme, not humble, loud, passionate, boisterous, annoying. Then you have a group of guys who are humble, talk about God, talk about their faith.

I mean, both are OK. Both are just as good as that canned center of the aisle commentary that frankly is a little bit boring. I think they're both refreshing.

BECKEL: You're not equating what these guys said with what Sherman said?

BOLLING: Yes, absolutely.

BECKEL: Really?

BOLLING: I think they are the polar opposite of what Sherman did and both are equally --

BECKEL: I was glad to hear them say that, and I was glad to him because we do get caught up in this, such a big important day and the life of the world now, the Super Bowl. When you think about, if you have faith, you think about Christ and it's -- it's not even -- it's like a piece of sand in a crap hole compared to Jesus Christ.


GUILFOYLE: What did you say?

BECKEL: The Super Bowl compared to Lord Jesus Christ --

GUTFELD: All right. OK, so if everything is equal, you would be OK with a professional athlete saying, I like to -- you know, I don't believe in God, but I'm glad I made it to the Super Bowl.


GUTFELD: I don't think so, not on FOX News.

PERINO: That's -- me? I'm on FOX News. I'm cool with that.

GUTFELD: You're OK. My point is -- also, people enjoy this stuff if it's from a winner.

GUILFOYLE: All right.

GUTFELD: If it's from somebody who doesn't do well --

GUIFOYLE: Speaking of winners, what's going to be your favorite Super Bowl ad? We always love to toss this around. Reenact a few of them.

Take a look at this Bud Light one that's already making the rounds.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donny llama. Yes, I just got that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good evening, Mr. Cheadle.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How are you, Joe?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Very well, thank you. And you?



GUILFOYLE: OK. Now, we might need 10 interpreters.

BECKEL: I don't get it. I don't get a single bit of it, unless maybe I missed something. Anybody get it?

GUTFELD: I think PETA should be concerned about what happens in the hotel room.

GUILFOYLE: Only your mind would go there.

BOLLING: So they have like four or five of these that I saw, these provocative, you can't figure out what it is, then they put the date of the Super Bowl. I'm assuming during the halftime, they're going to explain all of these.

PERINO: Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to ride a llama through a lobby.

BOLLING: Ping pong, which is really weird.

GUILFOYLE: With wig on.

PERINO: I think anyone who -- I mean, you ask what is our favorite? I'll tell you what my least favorite commercial is going to be.


PERINO: The one where Arnold Schwarzenegger is playing ping-pong.

GUILFOYLE: OK, so that ad. Bob and I like the one from last year where the cute girl is kissing the geek.

BECKEL: Yes, I like that very much.

BOLLING: The Fiat.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, we like to act it out.

BOLLING: You do?

GUILFOYLE: Next, the widows who could be plotting to terrorize the Olympic Games. One of them may already be in position to strike. What Russia is doing to hunt them down and what the U.S. is doing to protect Americans headed for Sochi, coming up.


PERINO: That's a great song choice for Sochi, Russia. This is our next topic.

Will Americans be safe at the Olympics in Sochi?

It's clear that the Pentagon is very concerned. The military is planning to send warships to the Black Sea. An aircraft will be on standby in Germany to evacuate Americans if terrorist strike.

And there are plenty of threats. Russian security forces are now searching for at least three female suicide bombers. The so-called "black widows" may be linked to terror attacks inside the country, and it's feared that one may have already made it through the ring of security in Sochi.

So, why would the International Olympic Committee have picked the region for the games where the Islamic extremists are rife?

Brian Kilmeade asked that question on "Fox and Friends" this morning.


BRIAN KILMEADE, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: They want freedom from Russia. They want their extremist -- their Islamic extremist lifestyle. Russia doesn't want to give it to `em. So, they put the Olympic Village right there.

Congratulations to the IOC, choosing Sochi, Russia. Congratulations, that really keeps our athletes safe.


PERINO: All right. So, Bob, when Sochi was chosen, many years ago, so you have to go back in time and think about what the IOC might have been trying to bring Russia along at the time when Putin was being all kind and letting Medvedev pretend that he was president for a while.

Do you think that maybe the IOC made a bad decision in choosing Sochi anyway?

BECKEL: Absolutely. They could have -- they want to bring Russia along, they could have gone to Moscow. They could have gone to St. Petersburg.

But the idea of going to the middle of the Caucasus where there is rife -- as you say -- rife with Islamic terrorism is absolutely crazy. They're going to be lucky if they get through this thing without something happening.

And the other thing I would say is, why is it we don't hear once again from the imams and the clerics and the head of the Muslim countries who should be saying, you know, we oppose any kind of violence that would take place, for that matter, anyplace else. But once again, you're keeping your mouths shut, and I guess you're once again reflecting your prophet.

But I mean, I find it just absolutely incredible that somebody -- we're dealing with potentially terrorists inside the Olympic zone. I mean, it's just -- to pull it out of there, if it were up to me, I would pull the damn thing out of there. Let's hope they don't put it in Tehran the next time. That's how smart you idiots on the IOC are.

PERINO: Well, where is it next year? Korea, that's where they're going to have the Summer Olympics.

BECKEL: North?

PERINO: No, Bob, South Korea. The winter Olympics.

BECKEL: One event, that would be basketball with --

GUTFELD: Rodman.


PERINO: Kimberly, when it comes to the security aspect and you're looking for four women, does the investigation and cooperation change at all? I should say right before we went to air, while they said that originally there were possibly four, it could be there are three, and we're waiting for reports to confirm why that could be, because maybe one is no longer with us.

Any thoughts on the fact it's women and does that change anything?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, I do think it changes the equation from security and intel perspective. It makes it a little more challenging. I think that's why the heightened sense of worry and anxiety about this. You have to understand, they don't even have to break through the secure area. They can cause havoc outside by hitting a soft target, hitting a hotel, hitting something like that that can cause panic and disarray and undermine the whole Olympic event.

So, it's definitely in Putin's best interest and that of the U.S. to make sure Americans are safe that are going over there. You know, I agree with Bob and Brian that this wasn't a great choice. It was not a safe choice.

PERINO: Eric, we also talked about whether the media maybe overhyped the terrorist threats and that's dampening people's willingness to go to the Olympics. Is this one different or is it still the same?

BOLLING: I can't imagine -- let's just say it was the L.A. Olympics and this type of terror threat happened. We would be just as diligent. Look, any Olympics, any terror group can say we have a plan. We planted a black widow or four black widows and get the whole place freaked out.

I don't think we should be pulling our athletes. There was some discussion whether we should pull our athletes. We shouldn't.

I don't think people shouldn't travel to the area. Terror can happen anywhere. We had one of the biggest events in the place take place less than two weeks from here, about four miles from here. I mean, who's to say?

PERINO: Security will be tight.

GUILFOYLE: We're really good.

BOLLING: As you said yesterday, one last thought -- as you said yesterday, probably the safest place on the planet for those two weeks will be Sochi.

PERINO: Let me get Greg in here. What do you think -- would Putin go to any length to make sure that the Olympics is safe, because his reputation is on the line?

GUTFELD: Well, clearly, he already has. I want to show you a photo. This was taking from the "Washington Post" of their bathroom facilities. Do we have that?

There you go. They're so concerned about terror that they're having people go to the bathroom in pairs.

PERINO: The buddy system.

GUTFELD: It's a buddy system. How can you -- how could anybody go to the bathroom like that is beyond me, especially if you have gentleman's bladder. This is bizarre.

PERINO: What is that?

GUTFELD: It's not a band.

BECKEL: It's still amazing. You know, the other thing I don't like to press this further, but I'm going to.

GUTFELD: You are.

BECKEL: That is that there are radical Muslim states which are sending teams over there. I certainly hope the security forces have done some very decent background checks on these people.

PERINO: But they haven't had problems before.

BECKEL: Wait a minute, look, the Munich Olympics in '72 with the Red Brigade had been wrapped in Germany.

PERINO: OK, good point.

BECKEL: It's all part of the idea of trying to get the terrorists out. What did that do? It drew black September into Munich to do that.

Now, you've got all these terrorists who are in prison. You're in the hotbed of it. I mean, what was anybody thinking?

BOLLING: You know, the terrorists are ticked off at the West, though, right?


BOLLING: In general.

BECKEL: But they got a lot of Westerners there to pick from.

BOLLING: My point is, so then under that theory, you can't hold any big event. Otherwise, you run the same risk. And my point is, the Balkan area, the Chechens, it's a hotbed for terror, right?

BECKEL: If you hold them in non-Muslim areas.

BOLLING: I don't think the issue, and Brian points this out, I don't think the issue is the location, right?

PERINO: It's the ideology.

BOLLING: It's the ideology. It can happen anywhere.

PERINO: And last thoughts, Kimberly?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, just because you're bringing up about the black widows. They're tough, they blend in. So, they're harder to identify, to locate, to neutralize. And that's why they're more concerned. They're more cunning of an opponent and terrorist for them.

PERINO: They're usually aggrieved widows that are angry at the Russian government or the West, whatever it might be, because they're on their own now.

GUILFOYLE: And they'll do anything.

PERINO: I have a feeling, though, they won't last.

GUTFELD: You're not going to talk about Putin's fitness?

PERINO: I have to go because we only have 30 seconds left.

BECKEL: Maybe the next place they're put it is Tripoli or Cairo. Would that be smart for the IOC to do that? Or perhaps Tehran, or perhaps, you know, who knows. I mean, maybe Somalia?

PERINO: Well, maybe the U.N. talks that the president is going to have with Iran, they could talk about that possibility in Tehran.

OK, coming up, an inequality threat to our country. Is that like slavery? That from one of the millionaires in Congress. That's next on "The Five".


GUTFELD: Income inequality has become President Obama's safe word. Shouting them when life gets scary, which is frequent thanks to his own policies in the past four years. The rich experienced more total income growth than they did from 2002 to 2007 under President Bush.

So, who's the cold capitalist now? So, this default cry of inequality really means give me what you have because I don't know how to make more. It beats actual solutions.

But while the free market is not always equal, it functions without coercion. So, yes, you can have total income equality, but along with it, you'll neat thread of death. The North Koreans are very, very equal, in misery, except those, of course, who party with Dennis Rodman.

Of course, there will always be someone who makes more. That's not inequality but life and opportunity.

Most people don't care if Donald Trump is rich as long as they're doing well. You have more Trumps, you have more opportunities for people who aren't Trumps.  At the top of the ladder, Trump is still building more ladders.

Sadly, we have a White House that mistakes dependence for help and class warfare as leadership. They suffer from outcome inequality -- meaning everything they do fails.

But until you figure out how to create more of the rich who then hire the young, you're just a demagogue tethering hopeless citizens to buckets of envy. Now, there's real inequality. Obama cannot build wealth, but if resentment were gold, he'd be Fort Knox.

So, I want to go to this SOT from Rosa DeLauro. Old friend of yours, Bob.


GUTFELD: She likens income inequality to slavery in World War II.


REP. ROSA DELAURO (D), CONNECTICUT: Whether it's an economic panic, Great Depression, slavery, Jim Crowe, civil war, world war, cold war, there are times when our country is confronted with a crisis that poses existential threat to our nation and our way of life. And Congress needs to stand up and act. The test of our time is inequality.


GUTFELD: So, Bob, as bad as slavery and World War II?

BECKEL: That's not what she said. She said there are times where this country needs to rise up to things, like during slavery, then during World War II. She never said it was --

GUTFELD: It's in context.

BECKEL: Well, maybe your context. Not the context that I picked up on.

But, look, you can't look at these charts. Why are the rich getting richer? The banks have gotten much more profitable, and the Fed has kept the interest rates at zero. And the biggest people who profit from that are very wealthy people.

Now, having said that, if you look at the charts going back the last 20 years, the income of people who make -- the lower income, the lower middle income, the upper middle income, are flat or going down and the wealthy are going like that. That to me says something stinks. And what stinks is the rich get richer and the rest of us get the finger up --

BOLLING: But, no, that's not --


BOLLING: The first part is right. Yes, the rich do get richer. Look, 20 years ago, our GDP was, I don't know, maybe $10 trillion. Now, it's $16 trillion, $17 trillion. So the pie continues to get bigger, which means the rich can get richer, and that's OK.

The problem with liberal think is that you think or they think that by shrinking the rich, pulling them down, it's going to somehow make the bottom happy, the less fortunate or less -- lower income move itself up. It's not. That would happen if the pie were stagnant. The pie is growing. So, as the rich gets richer, it floats all boats. And the poor --

BECKEL: Well, it hasn't floated this boat. It's floated a lot of yachts, but it hasn't floated any fishing boats.

BOLLING: Sure it has. A lot of the percentage has gone to the richer or richest, but the piece of the pie, of a $17 trillion pie, is being divvied up amongst a lot of people, but it's still floating their boats.

BECKEL: It's being divvied up among a very, very elite group of wealthy people.

GUILFOYLE: Well, what's your solution here? I mean, socialism?

BECKEL: No, I'm not saying they should necessarily have to tax these people.

GUILFOYLE: But she's benefited from a capitalist and free market economy, but her congressional financial records for 2012 say that she made somewhere between $5 million and $25 million. You're allowed to say a range.

BECKEL: I would never worry about Rosa's income. I think there's one answer, take the middle class, take their taxes down to almost zero, and keep the wealthier taxes as high as you can get them or higher.

GUTFELD: But sooner or later, you're going to run out of those rich people. But I want to go to the political part of this, Dana, because basically, this class warfare rhetoric has gotten more since ObamaCare. This is their pivot, correct?

PERINO: And it could be what he really wanted to achieve as president. You read the "New Yorker" piece that ran yesterday, the president said at the end he wants to be judged on whether or not he provided a ladder for the people at the lower income levels to be able to get up to the top.

So, what he's done is he has set an agenda. This shows again that the people think that Congress can set the agenda and lead in Washington. No, the presidents do that. They shape the narrative. This -- everybody is now talking about income inequality.

Immigration was it for a while. That was the one they were going to talk about. That's not going to work.

The income inequality thing, it's interesting because it's almost amorphous because it's about feelings. Do you feel better about your situation? Most people in America actually feel worse about the direction of the country and their own economic situation than they did --

BECKEL: Except for rich people.

PERINO: -- six or eight years ago.

Let me finish, Bob.

So, it's immeasurable, so when he leaves, do people feel better about themselves? Is the economy better? It's not that you're going to actually, if you raise the minimum wage, you're not going to increase people's bank accounts by a huge amount so they feel like they're sharing in the wealth, they're going to feel marginally better, unless there's things like better education, skills, and productivity, because that's where the jobs are going.

The rich are going to get richer because they have the ability to make money in this economy. The lower income people are actually -- it's decreasing, Bob, because of technology, productivity gains, and other places and the fact and we are not educating the types of Americans to get the jobs that are available.

BECKEL: These guys who make capital gains on paper, which is all stocks and bonds they move around in the middle of the night. Tax those guys at 50 percent. That's real capital gains.

PERINO: What are you going to do with that money, then? Give it to people?


BECKEL: How about education and technology? Yes, how about education and technology for poor people?

PERINO: Bob, there's a lot of money that's going into education and technology. There's actually the root cause, when you look at some of the family issues. We all know, actually, what is the best way to guarantee you want be impoverished? Marriage.

And instead of talking about those very important things about two- parent families, where kids can grow up with unconditional love and all the capabilities and things I had growing up, that's actually what would make a difference going forward.

Taxing people at a huge amount more, redistributed amongst people is not going to make anybody's lives marginally better.

BECKEL: I can agree with that.

GUILFOYLE: See? That's why I'm looking for another husband. Thank you, Dana, for making my statement there.

BOLLING: There's one last phenomenon going on as well. We're going from a manufacturing economy, inventing stuff, making stuff, to a service economy, serving people beer and wine in restaurants. And unfortunately, those are much lower paying jobs than the tech and the manufacturing jobs. All those jobs are gone overseas.

GUTFELD: Also, we have a population that's getting older, and people who are -- we have a large population that's getting older have a concentration of wealth, versus a smaller population of young people who aren't making a lot of money.

All right, if MLK were alive today, how would he feel about the NRA?

And later, if you missed him? He's back. Everyone's favorite mayor, Rob Ford, returns, this time with a Jamaican accent, and he's definitely under the influence of something, maybe happiness. The new Ford video, coming up.


BOLLING: Welcome back, everybody.

Pull up a chair, grab a beer, the fastest seven in news, period, three unbelievable stories, seven unrelenting minutes, on unabashed host.

First up, the Biebs makes the fastest seven again. According to TMZ, last week, the pop star got caught throwing eggs at his next door neighbor's car. According to TMZ, also, when cops showed up at the Bieber crib, they allegedly found a boat load of weed, cocaine, and a cell phone with naked selfies.

The Biebs denies all those accusations.

We'll bring it around. We'll start with you, Greg. Your thoughts on Bieber and his little -- by the way, the cops did say that they didn't find the weed and the coke?

GUTFELD: You know what they found there? Sizzurp.

You know what sizzurp is? It's Codeine cough syrup mixed with a jolly rancher and sprite, which apparently is legal, Dana.

PERINO: Oh, I drink that every night before I go to bed.

GUTFELD: I know you do. It costs like 800 bucks for this stuff.

PERINO: How could that possibly be?

GUTFELD: I guess -- well, it's prescription Codeine, which is legal. We're so old fashion.

BOLLING: All right. We'll be moving around --

PERINO: One thing I was concerned about when you said about the naked selfies, I mean, he's so skinny. I can't imagine what they look like.

BOLLING: Well, you know what?

GUTFELD: You have imagined.


BOLLING: The cops denied the coke and the weed but not the naked selfies.

GUILFOYLE: I'll tell you, because we talked to the lieutenant from the police department who was present at the scene. He said that they did not find any narcotics except on Bieber's -- one of his entourage, one of the rappers, the 20 years old that lives in the house, and that he was caught with some molly and Xanax right by him. He admitted that they were his. He was taken from the scene.

But the reports of cookie jars with other narcotics and paraphernalia were not true. It's only a bong on scene.

BECKEL: Listen, this guy had -- the cops had an opportunity when he threw those eggs at his neighbor's house, they had the opportunity to throw him in the slammer. He could use 60 or 90 days in jail.

PERINO: For what?


BOLLING: Get ready to get wet. Watter's world, Jesse Watters propped his well-starched collar and headed west to the Sundance Festival where he surprised some unsuspected celebs with the O'Reilly microphone, cameras rolling.

Now, folks, watch what happens when you ask holly weirdoes about politics and their beloved liberal leader?


ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR: He's a guy who means to do the right thing. He has to pick his battles. But his heart is in the right place. He's not a schemer. He's not devious.

JESSE WATTERS, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: The unemployment and the Benghazi scandal and the ObamaCare debacle --

MARK RUFFALO, ACTOR: The Benghazi scandal, we kind of know that's -- I mean, you and I agree that that's B.S. now, right?

WATTERS: Why is that B.S.? An American ambassador was assassinated and there was no protection --


RUFFALO: Well, what is the scandal, though?

WATTERS: No, because there's no protection for him. No one was never arrested.

RUFFALO: But who is cutting -- who is cutting the protection? Who is cutting the budget?

WATTERS: Who did?

RUFFALO: The Republicans.


BOLLING: K.G., a little bit of information.

GUILFOYLE: Dios mio. Yes, I mean, look, when you go and interview Hollywood celebrities about 90 percent of them, you're going to get that kind of reaction because depending where they watch their news and get what they consider to be a credible news source. They're going to be in the misinformation highway, passing on the same erroneous facts.

BOLLING: The big bus, in the big information bus. Bobby?

BECKEL: I think de Niro is exactly right. He ought to pick his battles more carefully than he does. And the other guy was also right. The Republicans have cut out money for security of --

GUILFOYLE: It was Mark Ruffalo.

BOLLING: Maybe they watch --

PERINO: What about the testimony that said it had nothing to do with it?

BECKEL: That's what you're talking about, more security around the embassy.

PERINO: No, that's right. Why didn't they send the security there after it was asked for? And the people, State Department, the bureaucrats actually said that had nothing to do with it.

BECKEL: If they had better security built in --

PERINO: So, actually, their level of knowledge is like, I know nothing about making movies, and they know nothing about politics.

BOLLING: There you go. That's like --

GUILFOYLE: Whoa, you tell them, Dana. I like that.

BOLLING: Should Jesse Waters be popping his collar?

GUTFELD: No, enough of the popping of the collar. Going to Sundance to get political opinions, it's not like -- it's worse than shooting fish in a barrel. It's like shooting a whale in a bathtub. It's too easy.

BOLLING: All right.

GUILFOYLE: No, but Jesse said O'Reilly gave him the advice, his signature look, to pop the collar.

BOLLING: All right. And he bought that.

GUTFELD: Big mistake.

BOLLING: All right. I love this story. But you better set your DVRs, because Bob's head just might explode.

The NRA released a new video yesterday on Martin Luther King Day.

In the video, Colion Noir, a hip young black NRA spokesman suggested Dr. Martin Luther King would frown upon the president's egregious gun control laws.


COLION NOIR, NRA COMMENTATOR: I believe Dr. King would look at me with a bit of confusion as he happily struggled with envy that I, a young black male living in the heart of the South, whose house was never fire- bombed and has never received death threats, was granted a concealed hand gun license. Yet he, who had all of these things, was denied.

Because let's not forget, the first forms of gun control were created to keep people like me from having guns.


BOLLING: Bob, you're up, my man.

BECKEL: I just find this absolutely outrageous, disgusting, disgraceful. I don't know how much deeper the NRA can go in the bull- (EXPLETIVE DELETED) that they do.


BOLLING: Wait a second. Wait a second, Dr. King, when this happened, Dr. King was right about having guns. They were lynching people, taking them out of their houses. Dr. King was being threatened all the time. He wanted a gun to take care of his family. And that has nothing to do with the NRA and their bazookas and their trash and their Canadian leader.

BOLLING: Whoa! Bob, how do you really feel? I kind of -- Dana, I kind of agree with Mr. Noir (ph).

PERINO: I think on the content of it, yes. I think communications- wise, they're going to fight fire with fire, there they go.

However, I think when it comes to Dr. Martin Luther King and when it comes to Reagan, when everybody is trying to glom on to them to use their memories and their legacies for their own personal political gain, for their campaigns, I think that I just wouldn't do it. It's not something that I would have done.

BECKEL: Exactly right. This Noir...


PERINO: But that includes -- but that includes Democrats who try to say what Reagan would or would not have done.

BECKEL: They'll go to bed with the devil if they had to.

BOLLING: A young black conservative -- I don't even know if he's conservative. A young, black, NRA-card-carrying member can't say, "I'm black and I'm glad"?



BECKEL: Not an NRA member taking Dr. King's legacy. Absolutely not. He's too great a man for that punk who's trying to tie it into that ridiculous organization.

GUTFELD: All right. All right. Stop.

GUILFOYLE: This is painful.

GUTFELD: Legal gun ownership is the ultimate equalizer. It erases any advantage of a large criminal over a black shop keeper, a female jogger, a gay night clubber. You want to help minorities, you arm them. Vitamin G, Smith and Wesson.

BOLLING: I agree.

GUILFOYLE: I'm traumatized by Bob.

BOLLING: Dr. King, if he were alive today, just may have been a Republican.

BECKEL: He would have not.

BOLLING: A lot of...

GUILFOYLE: Is your name Kimberly?

BECKEL: Sorry.

GUILFOYLE: Or K.G.? OK, so respect me, Bob.

I think that he would agree with many of the principles of the Republican and conservative party, and we should have a whole segment on it.

BOLLING: We've got to leave it. We've got to leave it right there. We're going to say good-bye. We'll be right back, everybody.

BECKEL: Please.

GUILFOYLE: Did his head explode?

BECKEL: Oh...!


BECKEL: Well, after that low-life attack on Dr. King, from -- who can't speak back from the grave, let me go on to something that always makes me laugh, which is our neighbor to the north who continues to give us material. And that, of course, would be Mayor Ford.

Mayor Ford has had a number of things that he's said and done, not the least of which is smoke crack, snort crack, drink a lot, knock people over.

But now, he's got a new thing going for him. He's now -- he's now a reggae singer. Can we go to a shot here of the big mayor singing reggae?




BECKEL: OK, so that's "New Town on My Block" (ph). What do you think? Did he do it better than I did?

GUILFOYLE: That wasn't singing, I don't think.

BOLLING: You do a better reggae than he does, I think.

PERINO: He needs a better cameraman.

BECKEL: He does. This guy really should -- I mean...

GUTFELD: Does this guy realize that everybody has a camera phone at this point, and he should just be normal?

BECKEL: Yes. Normal is a good idea. What do you think?

GUILFOYLE: I think his dancing is better than his singing.

BECKEL: Yes. You know something? He's even crazier than I am.

BOLLING: Well, maybe.

PERINO: Be polite. Because...

BECKEL: We're both the same size. We've both got the same big mouth, but at least I know there's camera phones.

"One More Thing" is up next.

GUILFOYLE: Thank you, Bobby.


GUILFOYLE: All right, it's time now for "One More Thing" where just about anything goes -- Dana.

PERINO: OK. So right before we went on air today, there was an indictment that was filed against former Governor Robert McDonnell, Bob McDonnell, and his wife, Maureen. He was the former governor of Virginia. Once talked about as a possible presidential contender. They're being accused of taking illegal gifts, including things like a sum of cash not less than $140,000.

But then all sorts of really expensive things. Louis Vuitton shoes and purses. She also asked this lobbyist to get her a silver Rolex watch engraved with "71st governor of Virginia" for her husband. In fact, even the lobbyist said, "But when is he going to wear that?" Gave it to him anyway.

The McDonnells have issued a statement saying that they deeply regret accepting legal gifts and loans and that everything has been repaid with interest, but you can bet that this is going to have a lot of political talk shows going for days.

GUILFOYLE: Talking to their accountant and rectifying.

OK, Greg.

GUTFELD: Last night, this happened on "Red Eye." Discuss.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a classic Canadian meltdown.

GUTFELD: Really?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is how it happens, yes.

GUTFELD: His behavior is as original as a waffle.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely, but that's not just him. That's every 19-year-old or however old he is. That's how -- that's how life is. We were like that. Now he's like that. You got the help you needed. You know, so...


GUTFELD: Andy? Where are the guests?


GUTFELD: We don't have any guests here. There's no guests here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's never been any guests here.


PERINO: Wow, it's all been in your mind.

GUTFELD: It has. Like an M. Shyamalan movie.

GUILFOYLE: OK, there you go.

Well, it's getting that time where you're feeling a little bit hungry. So -- and I love Greek yogurt, and take a look at this. Remember "Full House"? I still watch it, because my son and I watch it together on Nick at Night. It's a great series. There's actually no new episodes in 19 years. That shows how up to date I am.

But John Stamos was the spokesperson for Dannon yogurt -- Oikos, Nina tells me -- and so they reunited for this ad. It's going to be pretty cool.


JOHN STAMOS, ACTOR: That was a good game. What do you say, boys? Time to go to bed?

BOB SAGET, COMEDIAN/ACTOR: Don't you think it's time we all get our own places?



GUILFOYLE: Some men just never grow up, yes. All right, so who's next here?

BOLLING: Yes, I'll go. Very quickly, the NCAA tournament, the brackets, bracketology, you've got to love this, but get this. Warren Buffett and a couple of other people are putting together a billion -- a billion dollars to anyone that can fill out a perfect bracket. Go to It goes on and on. Really, really cool. By the way, 1 in 9.2 quintillion are the odds.

PERINO: You know who's going to be able to do that? President Obama.

BECKEL: Let me end the show with what I think is the most important day of the year outside of Christmas, of course, and Easter. And that is this is National Hug Day. So I just want to -- get over here, will you? I just want everybody to take our example here. Hug the person next to you.

BOLLING: That's not a hug, Bob.

BECKEL: Just do everything you possibly can.

GUTFELD: That's not a hug. That's not a hug.

BECKEL: OK, sorry. OK.

GUTFELD: I think that might be assault.

GUILFOYLE: Somebody call a lawyer.

BECKEL: That will get to...

GUILFOYLE: Look at my hair.

GUTFELD: Oh, god.

GUILFOYLE: Static cling.

Oh, my gosh.

BECKEL: You got to get out of here.

GUILFOYLE: OK, don't forget to set your DVRs so you never miss an episode or a hug on "The Five." We'll see you back here tomorrow.

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