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'Polar vortex' plunges much of nation into deep freeze

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," January 6, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling, along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Bob Beckel, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld.

It's 5 o'clock in New York City. This is "The Five."

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BOLLING: Bone chilling cold in the Midwest. Anyone who saw the Packers game last night knows it's not a good time to be outside, and a rare polar vortex is headed east in its path. Two hundred million Americans, thousands of flights have been canceled.

In Chicago, temperatures approaching minus 50. I'd say that again, minus 50 degrees. Skins will freeze in a mere minutes.

To Indianapolis, where the mayor declared it illegal to drive on the roads, frozen roads. Check out this highway video from Colorado Springs.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, God. Here comes a truck. Oh, my God, those people were not even expecting it, bro. They need to get --

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BOLLING: This is dangerous weather events, folks. Pay attention to it because it can be deadly. Janice Dean is keeping an eye on all of it from the FOX News extreme weather center. The situation seems to be deteriorating for a lot of the folks on the East Coast especially.

Right, Janice?

JANICE DEAN, FOX NEWS SENIOR METEOROLOGIST: Yes, all of this cold air is moving southward and eastward, Eric, and look at the wind-chills. This is all coming from the arctic, the polar vortex, we call it, a piece of energy from the arctic is now swooping southward with the polar jet stream.

And that's why we're getting wind-chills around minus 11 in Kansas City, Memphis, Tennessee, I believe you set a record today. It hasn't been this cold in over up 100 years. They are shutting down schools in and around the Atlanta, Georgia, area. They will continue to shut schools down across the Upper Midwest and the Great Lakes, again, where wind-chills are minus 20, minus 30.

Your skin will freeze in just a matter of minutes if you're outdoors. And I haven't seen this many wind-chill advisories, watches, and warnings in my 10 years of studying meteorology. It's incredible. It goes as far south as Florida.

Dangerous cold that's going to continue really for the next 24 to 48 hours, and as Eric mentioned, it's going to move eastward. And so, folks across the Northeast, in some cases, we're in the 40s today here in New York, the 50s. In Boston, we're going to see wind-chills of minus 10 and minus 20 degrees.

Chicago really got the brunt of the storm or that polar vortex today, with temperatures, daytime temperatures around minus 14 to minus 16, which I believe is a record. Low high of the day with wind-chills of minus 40, minus 50.

So, people are urged to stay indoors. You shouldn't be out there cleaning your cars. You need to be inside. This is dangerous and potentially deadly cold that we're talking about that is, you know, moving southward and eastward.

And then I want to mention we had a bit of a wet day across the Northeast. As this arctic front moves through, it brought up all this moisture from the South, and all of that moisture is going to freeze on the roads, and on the sidewalks, and that's the danger tomorrow, Eric, as we go into tomorrow, it's going to be really, really slippery, icy.

They're going to be working overnight to try to get the salt on the road, and in some cases, it's not going to work, it's going to be too cold, if you can believe it.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Wow. Hey, Janice, the phrase polar vortex, it sounds like a mad plan devised by a Bond villain to freeze the world. How do we know that's not true?

DEAN: You know, I can't disprove it at this point. No --

(LAUGHTER)

GUTFELD: I think that's a yes.

DEAN: You know, I'm being sarcastic.

Look, the polar vortex is something that the media is using quite a bit of.

GUTFELD: Right.

DEAN: It's an interesting meteorological term, but it's been there since the beginning of time. It's a vortex, an area of low pressure up in the north pole, and a piece of energy has been caught up in the polar jet, and it's been pushed southward, as far south as Florida. So that's the weird part of it, the rare part of it is the cold air has sunk as far south as the Gulf, and Florida, but it does happen. It's not like has never happened before.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Yes. Well, Janice, this is Beckel. I don't think it has happened before because I have never heard, and I go back to Lincoln. I have never heard of a polar vortex before. But let me ask you --

DEAN: You also never did the weather before.

BECKEL: That's true. A serious question, what about Florida and all those vegetables and fruits and stuff? Aren't they going to freeze?

DEAN: I mean, sure, if you have temperatures dipping below freezing, which is what is going to happen across central and southern Florida --

GUTFELD: Bring them indoors.

DEAN: Bring them indoors.

But you know what, the good news is it's a short-lived polar vortex part of energy that is moving into the Deep South. It's -- the temperatures are going to rebound by Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, so a quick shot of polar vortex, and then we're out of it.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Hi, Janice. It's Kimberly.

DEAN: Hi.

GUILFOYLE: You know, this morning, I don't know, I should have watched more of the weather forecast because I got caught, which was something close to a monsoon wedding minus the marriage, but I have never gotten so soaked and wet by the rain.

DEAN: Right.

GUILFOYLE: Unbelievable, to the point when I brought little Ronan to school, I had to bring a separate change of clothes. They were just -- was that expected?

GUTFELD: Where did you change?

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PERINO: Do you like to have a personal weather forecast? You want a personal weather forecast?

GUILFOYLE: No, but I wasn't anticipating it to be that bad.

DEAN: I'm glad that you work here. That's the most fortunate thing.

(CROSSTALK)

DEAN: But we have this arctic front that moved across the East Coast, and brought up all of this moisture from the south. And if you recall, 40 to 50 degree temperatures here along the East Coast. So, that was the other rare part of this, that all of this moisture and southern air was forced up because this arctic air is pushing eastward.

So, we got a lot of that moisture, yes, a lot of areas got a lot of wet weather and, Kimberly, the thing I want to point to is that tomorrow, because we get all of this cold, arctic air moving in, I'm really concerned that it's going to freeze like a skating rink on all of the roads and the sidewalks. It's going to be really dangerous.

GUILFOYLE: They've got to close school.

BOLLING: We've got to go. But Dana has got a flight --

PERINO: I've got a flight tonight.

DEAN: Do you have a flight tonight?

PERINO: I have a flight tonight.

DEAN: I hope you're going to California.

PERINO: I'm going to Florida, but what's the point? I'm going to Florida, when basically, Bob's new diet, the fruit and vegetables, are all going to freeze.

BECKEL: We don't have to do my diet --

DEAN: We'll get all of the fruits and vegetables from California, which is very warm right now.

BOLLING: J.D, we've got to leave it there. We'll check in with you probably tomorrow at some point.

All right. And no matter the weather, Americans love our football. Last night, 47 million Americans tuned in to FOX to see the San Francisco 49ers take on the Green Bay Packers --

GUILFOYLE: Yes!

BOLLING: -- in the bitter cold. Wind-chills at minus 15 degrees. The freezing temps didn't stop San Fran, led by their tattooed and tough guy, quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who dominated the Lambeau Field sans sleeves.

GUILFOYLE: I love it.

BOLLING: All (ph) performance, the guy is a baller.

PERINO: What?

GUILFOYLE: What have I been telling you?

BOLLING: Footballer, he can make it happen.

BECKEL: First of all, you got to ask yourself why. I mean, I can understand why they wouldn't want to wear gloves. Ends don't want to wear gloves, the quarterbacks don't want to wear club because you can't grip the ball.

But why you wouldn't put on a long sleeve shirt, unless he wants to show off his tats, I mean, I guess that's probably --

GUILFOYLE: No, it's not about that.

BECKEL: But what a performance he turned in, and to do that coming out of San Francisco. It can get cold in San Francisco, right?

GUILFOYLE: Let me tell you something, Bob, you and I, things were going well, but, now I'm going to have to break up with you to do new year's next year with him, sleeveless. I mean, what a man. Come on.

BECKEL: I tell you one thing about this weekend, have you ever seen so many good games back to back like that?

BOLLING: Great, great football.

I would think he sends a message to the defense that he's willing to go sleeveless, he's a tough guy.

GUILFOYLE: He did his interviews after the show, the post-game with Erin Andrews like this, like hey, it's mental.

PERINO: Some people just don't feel the cold like others, though. I mean, that's true.

BECKEL: You always come in here and complain about how cold it is in the studio.

PERINO: I'm cold in August in the studio, at least, when Greg is in charge of the thermostat.

GUTFELD: Isn't it funny, though --

GUILFOYLE: You're like the deep freeze.

GUTFELD: You just went for five minutes saying stay indoors, unless it's a game. Then go outside.

Obviously, I played pro football for 10 years and it is tough in cold weather.

GUILFOYLE: Were you the ball?

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: Terrible joke.

(LAUGHTER)

GUTFELD: Awful, I'm disgusted.

You know what I don't understand about football? Is --

GUILFOYLE: Everything?

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: Grown men wearing other men's jerseys with their names on it. How different from gay marriage is that? It's so romantic. It really is.

PERINO: It's a commitment when you buy the jersey.

GUTFELD: When you buy that jersey, it means you have an emotional, romantic connection to that man. I think it's beautiful.

BOLLING: Forty-seven million, let's talk about that number.

GUILFOYLE: Huge numbers.

BOLLING: It was -- you knew it was coming with the weather being the way it was and the big ball game.

GUILFOYLE: But people were indoors. What better way to spend the time with the Niners and the Pack is back? That was like Greta and I go into head to head and she's worried about the 49ers.

You have to understand, Green Bay is used to that weather. San Francisco, not so much.

BOLLING: You ever play in weather like that, Bobby?

BECKEL: Never. Most -- worst day I played in was about 10 degrees and it was rough. The ground was frozen and everything. And that was before -- we had helmets, but literally, before you had all the stuff to protect your elbows and your hands and everything. I mean, I can't imagine. I just cannot imagine.

(CROSSTALK)

GUILFOYLE: -- with the kick at the end.

PERINO: When I was a kid, we used to feed the calves when it was this cold.

GUILFOYLE: The calves?

PERINO: The calves. The little cows.

And then you would pour the extra warm milk after you fed the calves into the iron skillet so the barn cats would drink that.

BOLLING: All right.

(CROSSTALK)

GUILFOYLE: He's very kind to animals. See?

BOLLING: Let's move on to this one. Alabama fans like to say roll tide. How about roll tape? Check out this videotape of Bama Girl, the mom fan who lost it. Roll it, Mina.

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BOLLING: There must be more, right?

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BOLLING: By the way, (INAUDIBLE) claims she wasn't intoxicated.

Greg, you pointed this out over the weekend. Alabama Girl, the Bama Girl.

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: She said she would do it again because they were taunting her kids or her son. But this is an interesting point. Sporting events are the only place left where you can taunt people. And taunting never leads to anything positive. It's one thing that can make you violent. You may be a nonviolent person, but if someone starts taunting you because your only difference is you like a different team, you could kill that person. It has happened.

I think she's mother of the year.

PERINO: I think if I was the son, I would be so embarrassed my mom is so selfish, she had to fight my battles for me. He plays football. He's going to be fine.

GUTFELD: Those guys had no idea she was going to fight, which is why I couldn't of like her.

BECKEL: Yes, but you don't think she was drinking at all, huh?

BOLLING: She said she had a couple, but she wasn't intoxicated.

BECKEL: Have you ever seen anything like Alabama fans? They are unbelievable.

(CROSSTALK)

GUILFOYLE: Where is her husband? What happened? He's like, go, babe, get them. I don't know.

BECKEL: You don't want to be the coach of Alabama if you lose a game because they're taunt you for the entire season.

BOLLING: That was the expected national championship team that lost -- end up losing two games.

BECKEL: That's right.

GUILFOYLE: That was a big leap.

PERINO: I like watching it on TV, the whole thing. All the football is very good on TV, not outside.

BOLLING: That was a great weekend for football, Bob.

GUILFOYLE: You have a beautiful screen to watch it on.

BOLLING: Can I ask, Dana? Your Denver Broncos are going to play.

PERINO: I know. I have anxiety already, but my sister Angie and her husband are going to the game, they're looking at the forecast. They're ready. They're game ready.

Denver, I hope they can win.

GUILFOYLE: Do you need a call from J.D., get the weather update?

PERINO: Yes, personal weather forecast.

GUILFOYLE: Love it.

BECKEL: You're talking about the super bowl champions. They're going to win, unless manning gets hurt. Nothing stops him, particularly San Francisco.

GUTFELD: But you know the one variable you're not counting, the legalization of marijuana.

BECKEL: That's a good point. And you're already high at Mile High Stadium, then you smoke dope and you're getting higher.

GUTFELD: Exactly.

GUILFOYLE: How helpful "The Five" is, isn't it?

PERINO: But then you can go to the snack bar and buy things and that will help the economy.

BOLLING: Best football weekend of the year coming up this weekend.

GUILFOYLE: Tough to beat this past weekend.

BOLLING: FSU/Auburn?

GUILFOYLE: Auburn.

BECKEL: Florida.

BOLLING: Auburn?

PERINO: Auburn.

GUTFELD: We're talking college, right?

BOLLING: Yes.

GUTFELD: All right. Can I make a point about college really quick? There are activist groups on college, especially University of Wisconsin, that are advocating that their college divest from fossil fuel, any companies that have to do with fossil fuel. So, how are they heating their dorms?

Are they burning copies of "An Inconvenient Truth"? I think they should be protested outsides and let their nipple and nose rings fall off.

BECKEL: Let me just point out, this is because of all those professors.

GUTFELD: Yes.

BECKEL: If that's the reason this is happening.

GUTFELD: Exactly.

BECKEL: They have invaded everywhere.

BOLLING: Planting a lot of trees.

GUILFOYLE: Bob has come full circle in 2014.

BOLLING: All right. We're going to go ahead on "The Five".

Al Qaeda makes a major come back in Iraq. Their black flag is rising in places where hundreds of Americans gave their life. Is the president shooting straight about the al Qaeda threat?

And later, Mama McDonough (ph) under fire for posting a picture of her 13-year-old posing with a bottle of booze. That, plus her response to critics coming up.

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GUTFELD: The same song over and over again.

PERINO: All right. Thank you, Greg, for that musical intro.

Back in 2010, the Obama administration made this prediction about the future of Iraq.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOSEPH BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I am very optimistic about Iraq, I think it's going to be one of the great achievements of this administration. You're going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PERINO: Nearly four years later, al Qaeda is in control of key parts of the country. Nearly all of Fallujah, parts of Ramadi, and also the town of Karmah. You'll remember that our troops worked alongside Iraqis in the Anbar province to secure it during the war, 1,300 Americans gave their lives.

Secretary of State John Kerry says the U.S. is concerned about the recent uprisings and will try to help but without sending back any troops.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: This is a fight that belongs to the Iraqis. That is exactly what the president and the world decided some time ago, when we left Iraq. So we're not obviously contemplating returning. We're not contemplating putting boots on the ground. This is their fight, but we're going to help them in their fight.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PERINO: Before we start this, I want to stipulate that there are people at the table, including Bob, legitimate critics of the war, that think we never should have gone there. That's a legitimate position.

But let's try to stay on this topic, because I think --

(CROSSTALK)

PERINO: I'm just saying that you have a legitimate point, but I don't want to argue about March of 2003.

Brit Hume made a point on Chris Wallace's show yesterday. Let's listen to that and then we'll take it around the table.

GUTFELD: Oh, yay.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BRIT HUME, FOX NEWS: The tide of that war in Iraq was turned in part by what was called the awakening in Anbar province, and al Qaeda suffered during the surge of American troops. Now they're back. They're back in no small measure because we left.

American people are never happy with foreign interventions. It is the job of a president as leader to bring people along about such things. It's a role from which this president has shrunk, and it is -- and the consequences of that are now becoming clear.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PERINO: OK. So, Eric, America could be left a little confused because we have been told that al Qaeda is on the run. It is certainly it's different and it's evolved, but now to have Fallujah fall to -- possibly fall to the Iraqis, what do you make of that?

BOLLING: I'd say we haven't been told -- President Obama outright said al Qaeda is on the run. Osama bin Laden is dead, and he pronounced that as fact. Unfortunately, only half of that was fact. Osama bin Laden is in fact dead, I think, and al Qaeda is actually not on the run. They're resurging throughout the Middle East, not just in Fallujah, Iraq.

So, we have to be careful how we phrase it. We have to stay vigilant on al Qaeda.

I will tell you, more concerning to me is what happens in Afghanistan. If we start to pull out of Afghanistan, without having defeated al Qaeda, what do you do? Do we end up with another country that we spend trillions of dollars and thousands of lives and having to divert back to al Qaeda?

BECKEL: How long are we going to stay in the wars? I mean, I listen to what Brit Hume says. And the implication of what he's saying is, if we had troops on the ground, this wouldn't have happened. Well, it's been going on -- this war has been going on for 10 years now.

The American people have every right to be tired of it. Look, you're not going to get American soldiers back there. Iraqis were trained. We spend over a billion dollars to rain them, to fight their own battles.

Kerry is exactly right. It's their battle. Anything we can do to help them, fine. Short of committing United States troops is probably the right thing to do.

I mean, here's a place to use drones, I guess, but the idea that somehow this is an endless war between Afghanistan and Iraq is crazy, and it's al Qaeda in Iraq. Can I make that point? It's not the original structure that brought 9/11.

PERINO: OK, Kimberly.

GUILFOYLE: New Coke, old Coke, same type of terrorist.

Bottom line is the Obama administration abandoned Iraq to its fate when it refused to noels negotiate a proper status of force agreement. So, this is no surprise to me because they didn't button up. They wanted (INAUDIBLE) and said, we're pulling out. We're not going to have U.S. forces here.

And this is what happened. This is what was forecasted. There's no surprise. So they can take ownership of this because this is on their hands.

PERINO: But let me ask -- can I get Greg in here?

GUTFELD: No, I want Bob -- Bob is going to explode.

PERINO: OK.

GUILFOYLE: I want to see an explosion.

BECKEL: I want to know what you expected them to do, to keep -- you say --

(CROSSTALK)

PERINO: How about a slower rollout, OK? So they could have the gain.

BECKEL: It was awfully slow. I mean, the idea that somehow this is the fault of Obama is just absolutely insane.

GUILFOYLE: They didn't button it up. You can't pull out and expect everything is going to stay OK.

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: Allow me. Greg is getting in here.

But here's the thing, I don't like getting into wars any more than you do.

GUILFOYLE: No, me, either.

BOLLING: If you're going to do it and spent trillions of dollars and thousands of lives, finish the job. Finish the job before you come back and make sure they're done.

PERINO: One of the strategies that has been most successful is denying al Qaeda a safe haven from which you plot and plan additional tax. If you look at this from a geopolitical standpoint, in addition to the situation in Iraq, you have a problem of it possibly spreading to Syria. And then you is a completely different problem. And this would be a big victory for Iran. I think we have every reason to try to fight them, because they are -- we are expecting the Iraqis to fight our enemy, so we should help them, I think.

Greg, I want to ask you about a media perspective. This is a pattern, if you oppose a policy of the Obama administration, say ObamaCare or the stimulus program, and even on this, on the pullout of Iraq, if you thought it was too premature, you were labeled all sorts of things, one of them, racist, and you were just rooting for failure of the Obama administration. Does the media have to look back, and say, well, wait, perhaps some of these critics did have a point back then?

GUTFELD: But they won't. Does anybody remember how the media was around 2004, cheering for defeat. I wrote at "The Huffington Post", there was a parade of patriotic terrorism. These are idiots who wish ill will on the United States as a learning experience, and also so they can say, so, we were right, you shouldn't have done that.

Whereas real patriots would say, look, I'd rather be wrong and win the war, which I think President Obama should have been, I'm happy I was wrong about Iraq. Remember, he wasn't for the surge. Wars don't end, even when you win them, especially when you've got a president and a party who really didn't want to win.

BECKEL: Well, this is not right. It's not a question of not wanting to win. The question is, look, there's a huge power vacuum.

GUTFELD: They didn't like it under Bush.

BECKEL: Yes, correct. I understand.

GUTFELD: Was Obama different?

(CROSSTALK)

BECKEL: There is a power vacuum in the Mideast now, which is significant. There's no real leadership in the Middle East. The army controls Egypt. Think about it. If you know one major player in the Middle East that's left to help bring control over the situation?

PERINO: The Saudis.

BECKEL: They're not.

The Saudis. But they play in the background.

PERINO: Before we go, and we're going to tease next, Prime Minister Maliki of Iraq does deserve some of the blame because the Sunnis believed they weren't protected enough by the Shia government.

OK. Straight ahead, "Rolling Stone" magazine encourages America's use to reject capitalism and embrace socialism, maybe even communism, and it's not a parody.

Greg's reaction to that advice when we come back.

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GUTFELD: A hundred ten million, that's how many people died under communism last century, an impressive number. One that RollingStonemagazine.com forgot when they promoted principles that helped fill all those gravestones.

The piece called for, one, guaranteed work for everybody. Two, Social Security for all. Three, take back the land. Four, make everything owned by everyone. Five, having a public bank in every state.

No, it's not a parody. I thought it was, but it's real. Of course, they left out the message of coercion needed to keep citizens from fleeing this police state. After all, a threat of death can prop up a left-wing dream, because no one in their right mind would volunteer for this crop, hence, 110 million dead. But forget this genocidal amnesia, what about the death of "Rolling Stone"?

Sure, they can tell themselves that this stuff is edgy, but it's so old, even older than their brain-dead publisher. You find riskier stories in "Highlights". Why is that? Well, the article reveals the mag's totally subservient to the government.

The magazine used to give to the man. Now, it bends over and takes it -- a charge of heart because of who's in the White House now.

So, when you ask what killed "Roller Stone", it's who? President Obama, once elected, he helped turn a venerable rag into propaganda for force. And he didn't even have to ask them to do it. They did it themselves like all good cultists would.

(LAUGHTER)

GUTFELD: I blame President Obama for this.

Hey, Bob --

BECKEL: And also for the cold weather. Let's not forget that. That's Obama's problem.

GUTFELD: Of course, he's in Hawaii working the weather machine. The polar vortex.

PERINO: And he told Michelle, you stay back here. It's going to get cold out there.

GUTFELD: Watch me freeze middle America as they cling to religion and guns.

Hey, Bob --

GUILFOYLE: You think that happened?

GUTFELD: What?

GUILFOYLE: You think that happened?

GUTFELD: That absolutely happened. The Kenyan-born interloper.

Even this is too left wing for you.

BECKEL: Most of it is, but part of it is not. I think a state- run bank in every state is a good idea.

PERINO: Why?

BECKEL: Because it keeps the competition up against some of these profit-seeking --

PERINO: Like ObamaCare?

BECKEL: Oh, it's -- what's wrong with a public bank? You want to go a public bank? Go to it.

BOLLING: So, now, you want socialized medicine and socialized finances?

Why would you do it?

BECKEL: Why not? Because a public bank would not take a mortgage and slice it into a bunch of pieces and sell it as an investment tool when they know full well it's a lousy apiece.

BOLLING: Is it something you're complaining about, 4 percent interest rate?

BECKEL: I'm complaining about every investment bank.

BOLLING: Good Lord. I mean, it's cheaper to do business here than any other country on the planet.

BECKEL: You're going to defend Goldman Sachs? It's that what you're going to do?

BOLLING: No, defend our banking system. It works.

BECKEL: Oh, it does? It really worked well when it put us in the Great Recession, didn't it?

BOLLING: Did it? What's the alternative?

BECKEL: The alternative is to maybe to have a public bank. I also like the idea of trying to figure out a way like they did in the '30s with Roosevelt where you could get people who were unemployed to do public works

BOLLING: Can I just ask you? How much more public can the public bank be when you have a trillion bailing out the financial system? You have a public bank.

PERINO: We have a public bank. This is a FOX News alert.

GUTFELD: Dana, isn't this the kind of thing a kid would write in a high school civics class?

PERINO: I did think it was a gag.

GUTFELD: Yes, I did, too.

PERINO: I think he should run for president now while he still knows everything. That would be great.

GUTFELD: Exactly. He's the guy who is going to make communism work. It's killed 110 million people at a minimum, but he can make people work. Kimberly, people thought it was a parody. Isn't that the worst insult you can pay to somebody when you did this on purpose?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, did on purpose. Yes, exactly. And I don't understand. We still talk about this whole situation. How about keep taxes low. How about keep regulations low?

Let's stimulate the economy. What about the rising tide? Let the free market operate. That's a proven formula. This other nonsense is just getting us in trouble over time. I don't know why we have to play around with this.

BECKEL: A rising tide in our economy lifts all yachts, there's no question about that.

BOLLING: And all boats.

BECKEL: Oh, yes, sure, it does. Sure, it does.

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: And surfboards.

BECKEL: By the way, I think it's probably not fair to equate this with communism. They didn't have Social Security. They didn't have take back the land, that's for sure. Public banks they did not have, guaranteed work for everybody was not exactly part --

GUTFELD: That was part of the dream that wasn't realized.

BECKEL: But not all of this is a definition of communism.

PERINO: So, can I just point out that 2014, two issues that are - - financial issues popping up. One is the minimum wage. The other one is this income inequality.

So, President Obama is going to come back from two weeks in Hawaii with the family, leave Michelle back behind, cost the taxpayers millions of dollars to send air force two there and bring her back, because it's her birthday present. It's a gift. Yet, he's going to talk about income inequality. A little bit hypocritical, no?

GUTFELD: Can we show that tape of him bashing Republicans for going home for Christmas.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Just a few days after Christmas, more than 1 million of our Americans lost a vital economic lifeline. The temporary insurance that helps folks make end meets while they look for a job. Republicans in Congress went home for the holidays and left that lifeline expire, and for many of their constituents who are unemployed through no fault of their own, that decision will leave them with no income at all.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUTFELD: Red eye there.

Dana, kind of weird after a two-week vacation to come back and give people grief.

PERINO: Yes, weird. I also think on the minimum wage piece, that their policy -- I can understand wanting to tackle the issue, but their policy prescriptions are really quite pedestrian, very boring. There's no creativity. I think that people who are long-term unemployed and on minimum wage are being used as political pawns in an election year.

BECKEL: Well, they may be pawns, but let the republics keep stopping this unemployment insurance and see what happens to them. It won't have a couple of ObamaCare, Republicans will sit back and try to cut off the money for people who don't have work is absolutely cheap, and let them try to do it. They'll jam it down their throats.

PERINO: Bob, they said they would extend it, as long as it's paid for.

BECKEL: Three months.

PERINO: What's going to happen in three months? Does anyone think it's temporary?

BECKEL: Let's get it out of the Pentagon budget. That's fine.

PERINO: If that's the compromise, is that the compromise that President Obama wants to offer?

You're not offering any compromise. The Republicans are working - -

(CROSSTALK)

BECKEL: Republicans aren't working anything, except for more pain to people who aren't in their wealthy set.

GUTFELD: We're evil, rich jerks.

BECKEL: Correct.

GUTFELD: There you go.

All right. Coming up, another MSNBC host apologizes on air over their remarks. This time, it's about Mitt Romney's adopted grandson. You'll hear Romney's reaction to that next, and ours, too.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GUILFOYLE: First, Alec Baldwin, then Martin Bashir. Now, Melissa Harris-Perry is the latest MSNBC talking head who has been forced to apologize for some vile comments. This time, about Mitt Romney's adopted interracial grandson.

Now, Perry and her panel mocked the interracial adoption after seeing this family photo. After intense criticism, she apologized this weekend.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MELISSA HARRIS-PERRY, MSNBC HOST: Without reservation or qualification, I apologize to the Romney family. Also, allow me to apologize other families formed through transracial adoption I am deeply sorry, that we suggested that interracial families are in any way funny, or deserving of ridicule.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUILFOYLE: All right. Well, Governor Romney responded to her apology with grace and class on "FOX NEWS SUNDAY".

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MITT ROMNEY (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I recognize that people make mistakes. And the folks at MSNBC made a big mistake, and they have apologized for it. And that's all you can ask for.

I'm going to move on from that. I think it's a heartfelt apology, and I think for that reason, we hold no ill will whatsoever.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUILFOYLE: No one is surprised, I think, Eric, at the reaction of Mitt Romney, because this is a man who's always risen above the tide. Some feel he didn't get in tough enough to do battle against Obama to win it. But he's a class act. You can't change who you are.

BOLLING: Absolutely, Kimberly. Class act. You expect him to react that way, and he did.

Regarding Melissa Harris-Perry, look, I'm not sure if it's heartfelt. It seemed heartfelt, I guess it may have been heartfelt, but she did the right thing. We all blurt of stuff that sometimes we wish we --

GUILFOYLE: Not like that.

BOLLING: You know, the only thing about her is it keeps happening. She keeps doing it over and over.

GUILFOYLE: She's a recidivist.

BOLLING: You make a mistake, you go on air and apologize and say I screwed up, a made a mistake. If you mean it, move on. Let's move on. I really don't --

BECKEL: I don't have enough time to make all those apologies. I make those mistakes, too, but I will say this --

GUIFOYLE: You don't say stuff like this. No, I think Romney was a class act. In her case, she was crying near the end of the apology, if I'm not mistaken, or beginning to well up. If that is so emotional for her, why did she say it in the first place?

PERINO: I have a theory.

GUILFOYLE: Dana?

PERINO: When she -- when it happened, she had on a panel of comedians. And it is not easy, Greg, to have comedians on. You have no control over them and you get caught up in the moment and you're trying to illicit laughs when your job is not to make the jokes. You want your comedians to make the jokes. I think she got a little carried away, I hope.

GUTFELD: I think you're right, because that's happened many times on "RED EYE". But the one thing --

GUILFOYLE: But that's a different kind of show.

GUTFELD: Yes, but --

BECKEL: What show?

GUTFELD: Some show late at night. The one that drives me crazy is I think she was sun sear, the crying was heartfelt, but isn't the sexist for us to feel better about it that she cried because it shouldn't matter. Like Alec Baldwin in a way was right when she said -- oh, that's your next topic?

But he was saying, like, if I cried, I would have been ridiculed.

PERINO: Right. In a weird way, Melissa, who is a feminist, kind of defeated her own purpose.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, look at the double standard. She cries, it's OK?

BOLLING: You've cried.

(CROSSTALK)

GUILFOYLE: If Greg cries, I would die.

BOLLING: I'm being serious. If you cried, if you got emotional and welled up, people would be, what a great guy. It's really coming from here.

GUILFOYLE: Listen, I think it's a double standard. She's a lady, she cries, and it's OK. Look at Alec Baldwin, this one smart thing he said, if he cried about it, could he be forgiven? Because the point is, a little bit of a double standard there.

A gender double standard, I mean, he was treated differently than something that she said. I think what she said was really bad. She should have known better. Why did it take her so long to apologize?

I mean, you guys are kind of soft giving her a pass.

GUTFELD: I disagree with probably every single thing she's said in her life. But I can't help but like her. I don't know why.

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: I don't even like her. I disagree with every single thing that comes out of her mouth, I don't like her. I think she's ridiculous. I think she's provocative, for the sake of being provocative, not because she even believes half of the stuff.

Wearing tampons on her ears -- come on.

BECKEL: What?

BOLLING: But you make a mistake, you look at the camera, and you apologize and move on.

GUTFELD: The point I'm making, it's the difference between the left and the right is that the right things the left is wrong, but I look at it and go I think she's wrong, but I still think she's a decent person, and I give her a pass. They wouldn't do that to you or me.

GUILFOYLE: Bob, Martin Bashir walked the plank. Alec Baldwin walked the plank. This isn't the first time she said something that -- let's see. I think three strikes, you're out.

BECKEL: Who's -- who as that basketball player with Baldwin?

GUILFOYLE: What?

BECKEL: Who's that basketball player with Baldwin?

GUILFOYLE: I think it was his wife.

BECKEL: Was that his wife? OK. Or daughter?

GUILFOYLE: Straight ahead...

PERINO: Daughter?

GUILFOYLE: ... could McDonald's actually be good for you? We're going to tell you about one science teacher who went on a Mickey D's diet for three straight months, and the results might surprise you. The fast food health debate coming up on "The Five." Mm-mm. That's the fries.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BECKEL: Who knew that McDonald's might actually be healthy. Get this: An Iowa sequence teacher only ate McDonald's for three months, and the results are amazing. He lost 37 points, and his cholesterol dropped nearly 80 points. Here's science teacher John Cisna explaining his shock diet to Neil Cavuto.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN CISNA, SCIENCE TEACHER: A typical breakfast would be two egg- white delights, the fruit and maple oatmeal and 1 percent milk. At lunch, I would have a bacon ranch salad with a fruit -- fruit parfait. And then, at dinner, I would have one of the meals.

I started noticing results after about 30 days.

NEIL CAVUTO, FOX BUSINESS ANCHOR: You could have anything you want in moderation?

CISNA: Absolutely.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BECKEL: All right. Well, let me ask you here, Eric. This -- A couple things we should fill in here about this, is that this guy was kept to 2,000 calories a day. His students put this together. And he walked 45 minutes a day, neither of which he was doing before. So is it a surprise he lost weight?

BOLLING: No. Two thousand calories, he walked 45 minutes. He also went -- tried to adhere to the recommended allowance of carbs, fats, proteins. Basically, he put himself on a healthy diet and exercise. It really doesn't matter, I'm guessing, what carb, what calorie you put in your body. It's just the count, not where you get it.

GUILFOYLE: It sounds like he ate some healthy -- healthy foods for fast food.

PERINO: Yes.

BECKEL: That's right, right?

PERINO: I think the...

BECKEL: You're a big health freak.

PERINO: Well, I think the risk here is that people would think that they can just eat anything that they want at all the -- at any time and not change anything else.

But he changed two things: the calorie intake; 2,000 calories isn't that much for a man that's that size. And then, if you just start even walking 30 minutes, you're going to see a big difference.

GUILFOYLE: Where's your little...

PERINO: Especially guys. The Fitbit? The Fitbit is miserable in this weather.

GUILFOYLE: Bouncing around, and you start swinging your arms. I got to get this going.

BECKEL: Greg, you've got to tell us. You did this yourself, didn't you?

GUTFELD: Yes. This guy obviously read "Men's Health," because I did this very same thing for "Men's Health" in 1996, and I actually lost weight.

BECKEL: Is that you?

GUTFELD: Yes. I ate nothing but McDonald's. Look it up. It's called "Be Your Own Lab Rat." And so this guy ripped me off. The other thing is...

GUILFOYLE: You're sort of like a prophet. You think of everything.

GUTFELD: The other thing, too, the reason why it worked is because he ate more calories before. There's all there is to it. So the fact that he's eating 2,000 is irrelevant if he -- unless he's eating 2,500.

GUILFOYLE: OK.

GUTFELD: So it's the fact that this is all...

GUILFOYLE: Why is everyone, like, a bunch of McDonald's haters around here? I love McDonald's.

GUTFELD: I love McDonald's. If Big Mac was a woman, I'd marry it.

GUILFOYLE: Mickey D's does the body good, baby. I love it.

BECKEL: If you take it down to 2,000 calories and you walk, I mean, couldn't he have done that anywhere?

GUILFOYLE: Bob, but here's the point. It's like wrap your head around this. You can go and get some healthy food choices at McDonald's if you want to go get some food that's affordable. People are on different budgets. Not everyone can afford, like, Whole Foods or something like that.

But you can eat and swap something out. Have a healthy salad with some dressing on the side.

GUTFELD: Boo.

GUILFOYLE: Or whatever, pile it on. But the point is, there's options out there that are affordable. And if you put your mind to it and you actually spend the time to say, "I'm going to take, you know, less fat, more -- less carbs, more greens," you can work it out. Bob, there's hope for you.

BECKEL: What's your favorite -- what's your favorite McDonald's meal?

GUILFOYLE: I love the Quarter Pounder with cheese, and I love the No. 2 meal, which is the two little cheeseburgers like that, and they come with a large fries and a Diet Coke. Don't be mad. Once in a while, it's OK.

GUTFELD: Do you realize that nutrition segments are really boring? That was really -- I mean, McDonald's is fun, but boy, nutrition, it just puts you to sleep.

BOLLING: You know what's interesting? Do we have ten seconds to put up that picture of the guy before and after?

GUILFOYLE: Like Jared from Subway, remember, Dana?

BOLLING: Check that out. The -- even the after guy looks fat there, right? But when you saw...

GUILFOYLE: That's not nice.

BOLLING: But when you saw him on Cavuto with clothes, he looks good.

GUILFOYLE: And makeup.

BECKEL: What's that say? I say, "One More Thing"!

GUTFELD: You stole my plant.

GUILFOYLE: You breaking up with me (ph)?

GUTFELD: That's my plant.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BOLLING: All right. Time for "One More thing." Very smart man once told me, democracy doesn't work until the media does its job. Keep that in mind.

I was watching the Sunday shows this weekend. "Meet the Press," David Gregory. Look at the screen that they put up there, guys. Very quickly. "Meet the Press," NBC: "6 million total enrolled in Obama care."

Now, according to NBC themselves, it's 2.1. They cite the White House numbers. Not 6 million, 2.1 million. NBC, do your job.

K.G., you're up.

GUILFOYLE: OK. Well, I'm glad you worked that in, and Bob didn't -- his head didn't explode.

OK. I've got something. The material girl, Madonna. So there was a lot of uproar over this picture that she put up on Instagram. It's a picture of her son, Rocco Ritchie, that she has with Guy Ritchie. And he's 13 years old. He's got two vodka bottles, so people were really upset. It's not appropriate, given the drinking age in the U.S. And apparently, at the time he was in Switzerland. It's 16 there. A lot of backlash.

She addressed this and said on Sunday, "No one was drinking. We were just having fun. Calm down and get a sense of humor." And in another caption, she said, "Don't start the year off with judgments."

So think about that.

BOLLING: Bobby, you're up, my man.

BECKEL: OK. This guy was an Internet sensation. Mark "Coonrippy" Brown. Take a look when she was in the shower with his favorite pet.

GUILFOYLE: What? What kind of weirdness?

BOLLING: Oh, my gosh.

GUILFOYLE: You think that's normal?

GUTFELD: Look at -- that's a raccoon.

BECKEL: All right. That's Mark "Coonrippy" Brown, who had his raccoon taken away from him by the health department after that. So he decided to get it back. He got a bunch of petitions going.

But now that didn't work, so you know what he's doing? He's announced for governor. So he becomes governor, then he can get his raccoon back.

BOLLING: What state?

BECKEL: He's Tennessee.

BOLLING: Of course. Dana, you're up.

GUILFOYLE: You think that's normal?

PERINO: OK. So this is part of my New Year's resolution. It's to drive Bob more crazy, Greg, too. Jasper, Jasper calendars, 2014, I have five extra ones. If you go to my Web site, DanaPerino.com...

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.

PERINO: ... you have a chance to win one of those five calendars if your write a poem about your dog and post a little picture.

GUILFOYLE: Your Web site's going to crash.

PERINO: Like this one right here, this dog picture. You can also see the Jasper year in review there, which is very fun. Don't miss it.

BOLLING: You're up, my man.

GUTFELD: You know what? Let's have a resurrected phrase, shall we?

GUILFOYLE: Don't rip it!

GUTFELD: The resurrected phrase is "fresh." In the good old days, if kids gave you any lip, your mom or somebody would say, "Don't get fresh with me." Whack! And then slap you across the face. The problem is, nobody -- kids who are walking around all day, they're fresh. They're fresh. We need to say -- you see a kid acting up, you go, "Don't get fresh," and then whack them.

GUILFOYLE: Thank God you're not a parent.

BOLLING: What's the genesis of "fresh"?

GUTFELD: I don't know. But remember?

BOLLING: I remember fresh, but why fresh? Why is fresh bad?

GUTFELD: Don't say "fresh" -- no, no, no. I want it back.

BECKEL: You mean where did it come from?

BOLLING: Where did it come from?

BECKEL: I don't know where it came from.

PERINO: I think it's just old-fashioned. It's like Eddie Haskell.

GUTFELD: But I think it -- We should bring that back.

BOLLING: Before we go, we're going to have to say, don't forget to set your DVR. You never want to miss an episode of "The Five." "Special Report" is next, and a big congratulations to our buddy, Mr. Bret Baier. Today is his fifth anniversary hosting the show.

GUILFOYLE: Wow.

BOLLING: Make sure you stay tuned for a look back at five great years. See you tomorrow. Here comes Bret Baier.

GUILFOYLE: How cool is that? Five years.

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