This is a rush transcript from "The Five," August 14, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: It's pure heresy. A rodeo clown wearing an Obama mask out of Missouri fair was chased by a bull as people cheered. After hue and cry, fair officials condemned it and banned the clown for life.
The president of the Missouri Rodeo Cowboy Association also resigned and the bull executed by firing squad -- just kidding. But why not? He did go after the president.
Look, this story is about sensitivity, reaction, and overreaction. I can see how it looks. A bunch of people cheering as a man wearing our president's face is chased by a dumb animal. It's not my thing. But last I checked, it's not illegal to make light of the president or wear a mask of him, and it's tradition at rodeos, I am told by Dana.
But the left loves to scream when it's their guy. When comics brutalized conservatives, though, they cheer. I'd say lighten up, but they'd accuse me of being racist.
Let's be honest, it's all about whose team you are. If you like Bush, you got mad when they called him names. If you like Obama, the same thing with him.
But never forget, from Lincoln to Reagan to Palin, it's the left who first mask hate as parody. More important, if this doesn't bother Obama, why should it bother you? He is too focused on the Kardashians. Seriously, what does he have against Armenians?
The fact is the rodeo clown's job is to keep the bull distracted so other cowboys can reach safety. Maybe the mask was intended as a compliment. Perhaps Obama should try to get the clown's job back. Count it as one of those jobs saved we kept hearing about.
Lastly, it's weird watching an ideology up in arms over a clown as they say silent about Filner, the IRS, and Benghazi. That's the real bull, and boy are they running from that.
Little play on the words there.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Clever.
GUTFELD: Dana, you are the resident expert at Fox News on rodeos.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: I might be the only one.
GUTFELD: You do, because she was lecturing me on everything.
Is this offensive or is it part of the rich history of presidential parody that occurs in such rodeos?
PERINO: Have you ever been to one?
GUTFELD: I have been to a fair, where there were rodeos talking place, but I was often too inebriated.
PERINO: I grew up on rodeos.
GUTFELD: She never really grew up.
PERINO: And my Uncle Tom, who has since passed, he used to go calf roping. That was his thing. And we go on Friday night.
And then -- what did you say?
GUILFOYLE: That you never really grew up, meaning you're small. I mean, you're cute.
PERINO: Got it.
OK, anyway, rodeos. Yes. The rodeo clown is there because usually you have a dummy and you use the dummy so the bull can hook the dummy, get it? Play on words, dummy.
PERINO: OK. So every president is always made fun of. They are the subject of ridicule. This is a height of achievement --
PERINO: -- to be made fun of by the rodeo clown is actually success.
GUTFELD: I had no idea.
GUTFELD: So, everybody should aspire to be a rodeo clown dummy.
PERINO: I do.
And let me tell you something, in 2001 right before --
PERINO: No, you don't understand, this is a big deal. If you get made fun of by the rodeo clown, you have made it.
GUILFOYLE: You've arrived.
GUTFELD: I'd never seen Dana more passionate about anything.
PERINO: I just think -- I think this attack on -- first of all, the rodeo clown loses his job for life. The clowns have to go to sensitivity training. This is such bull you-know-what. That -- OK, can I just keep talking?
Because right before 9/11, eight days before 9/11, a rodeo clown had a mask of Bill Clinton, and someone in the audience got offended, said he was anti-Semitic, made the rodeo announcer resign. He lost all of his sponsorships, all because people don't understand what it's like to go to a rodeo.
PERINO: Bob, wake up!
GUTFELD: Bob gets mad when he is not talking.
Bob, will stop --
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: I beg your pardon.
GUTFELD: Will you stop attending rodeos as a protest? Because --
BECKEL: I used to go to the rodeo at Jackson Hole every weekend. And this guy, there's a difference between putting a mask on. I mean, I think that's fine, presidents had that happen before.
This guy said to the crowd with a microphone -- Obama should be run down by a bull. That's a little different than other people did.
PERINO: That's what they say because they say -- they hook the dummy. That's the point.
BECKEL: They say he should run down George Bush?
BECKEL: They did not say that.
GUILFYLE: That's how it's done.
PERINO: Absolutely. That's what the bull is supposed to do.
BECKEL: I understand what the bull is supposed to do. But did the clown say on a microphone --
PERINO: I cannot imagine they didn't say that.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Are you sure they said that?
PERINO: Yes, that's what he said.
BOLLING: I heard the sound bite where he said I am a clown wearing a dummy's mask but Obama doesn't realize he is a clown or something to that effect or dummy.
But this is -- it's just fun, Bob. It is just fun.
When they wore Ronald Reagan masks in point break, remember that, bank robbers, Madonna blew up George Bush's head, Sarah Palin had some other things done to her. But --
BECKEL: The liberal piece of this, you say liberals are making a stink. Frankly, the guy should be banned for life --
PERINO: Why is he banned for life? That's ridiculous.
GUILFOYLE: That's pathetic.
PERINO: He is a rodeo clown. C-L-O-W-N. Clown. That's what he is supposed to do, clown around. Why shouldn't Jay Leno be fired?
BECKEL: For what?
PERINO: Why shouldn't Jay Leno be fired for life for making fun of Obama?
BECKEL: Does he say kill Obama?
PERINO: He didn't say go kill Obama. Oh my God!
BECKEL: He said run-down Obama.
GUTFELD: It was a clown! It is a dummy! The bull is supposed to chase the dummy, am I right?
GUILFOYLE: Another job killed by Obama.
BECKEL: What do you know about this?
GUTFELD: I know nothing but at least I'm not pretending to know something. I want to get the lawyer in on this, Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: Please? Yes.
GUTFELD: The DOJ and Secret Service investigate the clown as the NAACP urges?
GUILFOYLE: Their time is better spent on Bob Beckel. Let's be honest. I mean, seriously. They may find something. Why do you have to investigate a clown? He is wearing a mask, it is sort of like Halloween, this is his job. Now, the guy is banned for life? Are these federal sentencing guidelines? It's ridiculous. I mean, I can' believe --
BECKEL: He was banned by Oklahoma Rodeo Association.
PERINO: It would be Missouri, not Oklahoma, which is absolutely ridiculous. I would ban the Missouri fair for doing this. I think it's crazy.
GUTFELD: I've never seen you're so lit up about this.
GUTFELD: I want to throw to this Mark Wolf, from Missouri state fair director. This is what he said and he was ticked.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MARK WOLFE, MISSOURI STATE FAIR DIRECTOR: We hold them accountable and we certainly hold this person accountable for their actions, and, you know, we're going to -- he will not be out here again, I promise you that.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUTFELD: Do you think, Eric, he was saying that because he felt that it was -- or he was worried about his job.
BOLLING: I think -- no, here is what they're worried about. There are a couple of Democrat lawmakers in the state who are calling for funding to stop. There's state funding that goes to the fair and they're saying it should be pulled back and I think they're worried about that continuing or having to give back money they've already received.
It's ridiculous. It's a joke. When Bill Maher says something ridiculous, rude, condescending, borderline libelous, he hides behind comedy.
PERINO: He gets a new contract.
BECKEL: He doesn't say kill them.
BOLLING: Bob, entertainment. The rodeo clown is entertainment, not political commentary.
GUILFOYLE: But the bull --
GUTFELD: Bob is valiantly trying to pretend like he is indignant.
BECKEL: I'm not indignant. I think it's terrible.
GUTFELD: Do you believe rodeo clowns should go to sensitivity training? You think that's an important --
BECKEL: I don't think you could take those guys and make them sensitive about anything.
GUTFELD: That's the point. They're not supposed to be.
PERINO: Rural America on flyover states --
PERINO: -- to ask the Secret Service to look into it --
BECKEL: I don't think they should do that.
GUILFOYLE: Obama says, save a job, shovel ready, dig up the rodeo clown that he buried with this and say, hey, listen, people --
BECKEL: Obama had nothing to do with it. It was the Missouri state --
GULFOYLE: It is one of our questions here, how should Obama handle the situation.
BECKEL: Well, but, listen, it said that he was not -- Obama had nothing to do with this guy losing his job. It was the Missouri people who had him do it.
BOLLING: So, here's the thing -- Chris Rock and there's a slew of black comedians who make fun of white people. That's what they do. It's their shtick and everyone says, well, they're not racist, they're just -- they're having fun, they're entertaining. Isn't this the same thing?
BECKEL: Does Chris Rock say go out and kill the white people?
PERINO: OK, Bob, you know what, it is just preposterous, and you want to know what divides America more and more, this absurdity.
BECKEL: I like to see you get --
BECKEL: I am going to keep kicking you on this. I think they should shoot the son of a bitch myself.
GUILFOYLE: Bob --
PERINO: OK, if they had a Hillary Clinton mask --
BOLLING: Go out and kill Obama, I want to see where it says that?
PERINO: He said run down Obama.
BOLLING: It doesn't say go out and kill Obama.
BECKEL: Why wouldn't you stand in front of a bull and get run down and see whether you live?
GUTFELD: You know, it is teaching bulls to hit politicians, and that really is wrong, don't you think?
GUILFOYLE: It's very -- yes.
GUTFELD: Hey, can I throw this, Josh Earnest. A lot of Joshes --
BECKEL: Are we still talking about this ridiculous --
GUTFELD: We're doing the whole hour on this, Bob.
Deputy press secretary talking about this at Martha's Vineyard.
GUILFOYLE: Of course.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JOSH EARNEST, DEPUTY WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I have not talked to my colleagues in the White House about this, haven't heard about the president's reaction or if he had one. I can tell you as a native Missourian, it's certainly not one of our finer moments for our state and not the way I like to see our state mentioned in the news.
In terms of any Department of Justice action, I'd refer you to them.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PERINO: Imagine if they had said -- imagine if he had said --
BECKEL: Here she goes again, (INAUDIBLE).
PERINO: Height of achievement, look at the progress. We have the first black American president and he got made fun of by the rodeo clown. This is awesome. We should celebrate this, America.
And then, they would have looked like heroes, instead they look annoying, even though he has the best name in PR.
PERINO: Joshua Earnest.
GUTFELD: Oh, that is a good name.
PERINO: Great name.
GUTFELD: What about this? Do you think, Eric, that the argument --
BECKEL: Are we still going on with this?
GUTFELD: I'm telling you, we're doing this a whole hour, Bob, so just relax.
BOLLING: We're going to take Bret's hour, too.
GUTFELD: Yes, we're going to do two hours. Exactly two hours. This is a filibuster on rodeo clowns.
PERINO: Didn't you hear about the rodeo clown that wears suspenders in the D-block -- and we're going to try to take --
BECKEL: I just blew my nose on that.
GUTFELD: Oh my God. There's a colony of aliens on that handkerchief.
GUTFELD: All right. Here's the question, implied threat, Kimberly.
GUTFELD: Does this behavior imply threat to the president?
GUILFOYLE: No, that's why this is ludicrous. So, tax dollars are going to be divested to investigate a non-crime, a non-issue? Investigate, where's the sense of humor here, really?
PERINO: You know what they should have said? They should have said, hey, at least President Obama wears mom jeans, (INAUDIBLE) -- that would have been a great response.
BECKEL: Show me where Bush got, they said that about Bush?
GUTFELD: Where have you been -- well, I think I know where you've been in the last --
BECKEL: Wait a second. When they had bush in a rodeo face on a rodeo clown, did they say run over George Bush?
PERINO: Bob, I don't have a quote, it is so ludicrous. I can't even believe I am arguing about it. What do you think they said --
BECKEL: You have been going on for 10 minutes.
PERINO: Do you think the rodeo clowns said, hey, here is George W. Bush, doesn't everybody love it and love the war in Iraq and everybody cheer for it? Of course it's not what they said. They're like, don't you think -- don't you want to run over the president.
BECKEL: Listen, I'll give you my time, can you please keep going?
GUTFELD: You know what I'm going to do. I'm going to go to your favorite Colonel Allen West who had this to say last night about this.
GUILFOYLE: I like him.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FORMER REP. ALLEN WEST, R-FLA.: We have had presidential masks out there, we've had parodies, we've had it at that state fair before. But one of the things I find that is really, you know, hypocrisy, is, you know, I remember when Condoleezza Rice had the birthing tubes cartoon drawn about her, there was no outcry. Just this last election cycle, I had a gold tooth painted on my face, I had boxing gloves, I was punching white women, there was no outcry.
So, I think there's a little bit of hypocrisy here.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECKEL: Excuse. But he did say, unless I missed that, and that he did say that he thought it was inappropriate the language of the clown used.
GUTFELD: That was --
PERINO: He needs to go to a rodeo. Somebody needs to grow a spine.
BECKEL: Whoa. Oh, a spine, whoa.
BOLLING: Can I play devil's advocate?
BOLLING: I give you a little backing, the only difference here is that because it was a state fair, there was some state money coming into the fair, rodeos are generally private ventures, right?
PERINO: Not at state fairs.
BOLLING: Not at the state fair, that's my point.
PERINO: Like Cheyenne Frontier days, all private money, all volunteers.
BOLLING: And let's put it this way. And in those cases where it is a private rodeo where they generate their own income from ticket sales at the door, sales, concessions -- have fun with it. If it's the state, half the money coming into the state are Democrats.
GUILFOYLE: Banned for life?
GUTFELD: What do you want to talk about? You know what, let's talk about the IRS scandal, Bob, or maybe Benghazi. You want to talk about that?
BECKEL: Benghazi, the epic scandal.
GUTFELD: Yes, the epic scandal, Benghazi. I think that's something worth talking about. The rodeo clown, if we keep going, Dana is going to get very ill. She's getting so -- look at her. Look at her.
PERINO: No, I am laughing now because I put a mint in my mouth.
BECKEL: Probably swallowed it.
GUILFOYLE: They're so spicy.
GUTFELD: All right. You need to go to rodeo clown school.
PERINO: I need to move back to rural America and forget this place.
GUTFELD: You really hate this place.
BECKEL: Don't take a vote on that.
PERINO: I'm having a hard time!
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh. Somebody spiked the Altoids.
BECKEL: Damn that rodeo --
GUILFOYLE: Our table is not that durable, Bob.
GUTFELD: We have to go.
PERINO: Where is Willie when you need him?
GUTFELD: Who's Willie?
BOLLING: Willie Robertson.
BECKEL: Willie would have said even with sticky frog legs.
GUTFELD: We're still on.
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