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Is the American Dream dying under Obama?

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," August 8, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: The scandal swirling around the administration is starting to take a toll. According to a newly released Fox News poll, 52 percent now disapprove of the President's job performance. Now, this number skyrocketed five percentage points from just last month.

And it's no wonder the American people are starting to lose faith with the administration. Corruption is running rampant. ObamaCare is a mess. Our foreign relations have never been worse, and just this week, the White House spin machine came out in full force after President Obama canceled next month's bilateral meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Now while the administration would like you to believe that the president is flexing its political muscles, we all know it's just a show. And today we learn that the President will hold a press conference tomorrow before he heads to Martha's Vineyard for a vacation.

And joining me now to react to this and more, the always shy, demur Ann Coulter. How are you?

ANN COULTER, AUTHOR, "MUGGED": Fine, thank you. So good to see you. I've been dying to talk to you.

HANNITY: Forty two percent approval rating. Seventy four percent of Americans think that American people are too dependent on government. What is that say?

COULTER: Well, to be honest with you, the American people are a little schizophrenic on this. They always say government is too big and then you start talking about what you're going to cut. "No, no, don't cut that."

The one exception to that is ObamaCare and that's why stopping amnesty is so important. That remains the most important issue. If amnesty goes through, ObamaCare will never, ever, ever be overturned. Hispanics overwhelmingly support not only big government but specifically ObamaCare. So, I think for one thing, please do not take your eye off the ball, Republicans, whether it's the government shutdown or defunding ObamaCare.

Biggest issue facing us is blocking ObamaCare. It is already passed in the Senate and they're trying to slip it through, especially by not talking about it. Politicians know that as soon as we talk about it, people will start writing and calling and telling us we don't want ObamaCare but as long as we don't say anything, we can just slip it through the dark of night and all the big Obama contributors or rather Republican contributors, you know, and the Mark Zuckerberg's and Sheldon Allison (ph) and Koch Brothers of the world, they will give us money and screw the people who hate amnesty.

As for this looming government shutdown, I've been listening to -- talk about it on radio along with your other 14 million listeners, and I've been dying to talk to you about this because first of all I really don't think Republicans should be on either side saying that the other side is a monster doing something horribly wrong. We all want to defund ObamaCare.

One side -- and I understand their point -- says this is going to hurt us, we're not going to defund it. We have one half of a third of the government. And the last time we tried this under Newt Gingrich in the '90s, it did hurt Republicans a lot.

I think three things are different this time. One is this time we have Ted Cruz and Mike Lee leading the fight. Last time it was Newt Gingrich. That ended up not being helpful as it turned out, I don't know if you remember the details of that.

HANNITY: In the end it didn't really hurt that much but go ahead, I don't want to interrupt you.

COULTER: It hurt a lot. Point two, every other time the Republicans -- and this is the most important, have either threatened to shut down the government or shut down the government, it's been over the budget generally, the budget deficit. I promise you, no one cares about the deficit. Republicans have been in on the deficit for 30 years and lost every election. No one cares about the deficit. ObamaCare is different. It is hitting now. Look, the teamsters may campaign with Ted Cruz because they want to stop this.

It's immediately after this IRS scandal -- and just to say we want to put off implementation of this, if it comes to it, look, just say we're going to continue to fund the government for a temporary period. But this is our budget. We are not voting to fund ObamaCare.

HANNITY: Let me jump in here. Blessed is the peacemaker, Ann Coulter. You're trying to bring together the two sides?

COULTER: Not the two sides. I hate when Republicans hate one another. It's not RINOs on one side, it is not reckless lunatics on the other side.

HANNITY: Here's my question. But here's the reality. The Tea Party conservatives in this country, which is a big part of the Republican coalition, they want a fight. They want these guys to stand for something.

COULTER: The fight should be on amnesty. They're missing the boat because they're about to give away the entire country if the Tea Party doesn't focus on it.

HANNITY: I will tell you that it's about, yes, it's about amnesty, A and about, B, it's about ObamaCare. Because this is basically their last chance.

COULTER: I no longer believe that.

HANNITY: Why not?

COULTER: Because people hate ObamaCare.

HANNITY: How do you -- name a program that has put in place and then removed.

COULTER: Look. This is why I work so hard to get Mitt Romney elected president because my feeling was, that if it was not repealed in the next four years it would not be. I think it's a different country now and people do not like what is happening. The memory of what it was like getting health care for not through the Department of Motor Vehicles, is still fresh in people's minds. We do have these new Republicans in there.

And I mean, just the outrageousness of finding out this week that Congress, senders, House members and their staff will not be subject to ObamaCare?

HANNITY: You've got to love it. They've got some cojones there. They've got some real --

COULTER: Yes.

HANNITY: Yes, they really do.

COULTER: Yes. So, both sides want to defund ObamaCare and trying to figure out the best way to do it. I happen to think they should stage this fight.

HANNITY: All right. So, how do you want this fight? This is key. How do you stage this fight? I like what Cruz is saying, Mike Lee --

COULTER: Third point.

HANNITY: Go ahead.

COULTER: Very, very important to get Democrats on the record in another vote right now going into 2014 for ObamaCare. This bill, as you and I have discussed, was passed in a sleazy way with 100 percent Democrat votes without a single republican vote.

Let's get Senator Pryor from Arkansas and Mary Landrieu from Louisiana. Get them on the record voting to turn over to the IRS in the middle of this scandal all of our health care. Get the Democrats on the record with that vote. That could

be enough.

HANNITY: Let me ask you this. How about then they vote to delay the funding of ObamaCare?

COULTER: Sure.

HANNITY: You're OK with that?

COULTER: Just keep putting it up for a vote.

HANNITY: OK. And then Obama says that he's going to shut down the government, that Republicans are shutting down the government even though they fund every other aspect of the government.

COULTER: Probably it won't pass in the Senate. But I can't tell you though. That's not 100 percent. We've got a lot Democrats up for election next year. Get them on the record, you don't --

HANNITY: Call it a delay, not a defunding?

COULTER: I think you try it all but demand votes on it. Keep voting.

HANNITY: All right. So, what happens when we get to the point, the House defunds it, they send it to the Senate, the Senate won't go along with it or they do --

COULTER: Yes. But have the vote. Have the vote.

HANNITY: Have the vote. OK. And then what do you do from there? Because then the president is going to say, I'm not going along with these Senate Democrats. Then what did they do?

COULTER: Let's see where the landscape is, where the teamsters are going to be.

HANNITY: It's a great question, isn't it? Did you ever think you'd be in agreement with Jimmy Hoffa, Jr.?

COULTER: Well, I think a lot of Americans, I mean, other in the ones like members of Congress who don't have waivers from ObamaCare, don't like ObamaCare. It is very different to quote, "shutdown" -- sorry, there was a third thing I said in the beginning, three things are very different.

In 1994, we didn't have as much of the media. That was before the Internet was big. It was before Fox News. Actually it was 1995 when this happened.

HANNITY: Right.

COULTER: It's a different media landscape. There are different people pushing this and it is over a different issue, an issue, ObamaCare, that is hated by the vast majority of the American people and they see the sleazy methods that were used to pass this, and just dropped in our lap the politicization of the IRS and who's running ObamaCare, the IRS, but remember, Americans, the most important thing is stopping amnesty.

HANNITY: You know, Reagan asked a rhetorical question in 1974, is that a third party we need or a revitalized second party.

COULTER: That's something else I want to punch you for.

HANNITY: Why?

COULTER: Do not even talk about third parties.

HANNITY: But here's the question. No, OK. I'm talking about a revitalized second party.

COULTER: Yes.

HANNITY: Now, Reince Priebus.

COULTER: No.

HANNITY: Wait a minute. He told ABC and CNN, he got right in their face, went on their air, and said you do these love stories to Hillary, you're not going to get any debates. Everybody I know was like, go, Reince. They want a fight.

COULTER: The fight should be over amnesty. You lose everything.

HANNITY: But the fight, you've got to fight.

COULTER: Hispanics overwhelmingly support ObamaCare, they support gay marriage, they support abortion, they support big government. Look at the polls. We lose everything. And we lose the country. We have no say over who an American citizen is? Democrats can't win with Americans. That's why they need to bring in a new electorate and it's being slipped through, and, yes, we should revitalize the Republican Party. I'll tell you who we should throw out, any Republicans who support amnesty. You have a clear list, Tea Partiers.

HANNITY: Is that love affair with Chris Christie over then?

COULTER: Sadly over amnesty. And by the way, that's when the love affair ended with George Bush too. Not only for me but I think for a lot of conservatives.

HANNITY: All right. Coulter, thanks for giving me time to ask one question. I appreciate it.

COULTER: You're welcome.

HANNITY: All right. Thank you very much. Good to see you.

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