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This is a rush transcript from "The Five," June 7, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Sergeant and Army marching band member Nathan Sommers is causing problems, marching out of sync, no. Was he singing off key? No, not that, either.
Sergeant Sommers was reprimanded and told to stop reading Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, and David Limbaugh books while on the bus going to concerts. That's what his superior officers told him, to stand down on those books saying he was, quote, "causing a unit disruption."
Folks, we're in the midst of the wussification of American men and now the military going all PC is both disheartening and dangerous.
Kimberly, I called Mr. Sommers' lawyer, Navy Commander John Bennet Wells (ph), who said P.C. is taking over the military.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Who we met before at the Republican National Convention, the attorney representing him.
Yes, this is very disconcerting to me because now, you're going to, what, program our military and give them a suggested and approved reading list and they can't read or listen or watch certain Americans that are expressing their beliefs? This is outrageous.
You know, we have these soldiers and troops fighting for our freedom every day, and then President Obama is stripping them of their freedoms, telling them that they can't read this or they can't look at these materials. This is his administration.
BOLLING: Hang in there, Juan. Hold on.
I spoke to Commander Wells. I said why is P.C. taking over the military, and he said the way things have been going, especially since President Obama put his people in power in the military.
ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Absolutely. All you have to do is look at Fort Hood to see that. It was political correctness that prevented Army psychologists from reporting Major Nidal Hasan and we have 13 dead Americans. He's getting paid $300,000, and it's workplace violence, while the victims get nothing.
Look, I think this is ridiculous. I don't think the military is a place for expression of any kind, but it does appear that he is facing the last form of discrimination, Eric, which is you're a Christian or you're a conservative and that's -- he's being discriminated against.
BOLLING: Yes, Brian, he's sitting on the bus or back stage before a concert, minding his own business. He's not reading out loud. He's sitting there minding his own business and they tell him he can't do that.
BRIAN KILMEADE, GUEST CO-HOST: That's absolutely outrageous, especially considering that my unofficial poll of people we've had any chance to interact with will chance plans to listen to Mark Levin, or Sean Hannity, let alone read their books. They seem to be somewhat from the conservative side.
And for one thing, I think it's the military who has learned to take control and stand up to do what's right even though it's an officer that told them that has to come forward and say, hey, this is wrong. I should be able to read what I want and I will go to your superior and to make sure I can do it.
BOLLING: And, Juan, the irony here is they're telling him not to listen to Sean Hannity or listen to Mark Levin, or read one of the books. Meanwhile, that's all they talk about, is liberty. They talk about fighting tyranny, this is tyrannical.
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: This is tyrannical?
BOLLING: Yes, tell me what I can read, when I can read?
WILLIAMS: Well, I think if I'm superior and I'm interested in unit cohesion and you are sitting there reading something that is highly politically inflammatory and is causing other people --
GUILFOYLE: From a guy whose show you're on?
(CROSSTALK)
KILMEADE: It's highly inflammatory?
WILLIAMS: I'm telling you so that you have a different point of view here. Let me just say nobody is saying you can't read that material. In fact --
BOLLING: He said stop reading those books.
(CROSSTALK)
WILLIAMS: -- at that time.
BOLLING: How in the world does someone have the right to tell me what to read and when to read it?
(CROSSTALK)
WILLIAMS: Wait a minute, in the middle of a unit --
GUILFOYLE: Guess what, Eric? They fight for his right to read the Koran, right, or I need to have a certain number of prayers. I'm telling you --
KILMEADE: If they told them to put a Koran away?
(CROSSTALK)
KILMEADE: Put the Koran away. OK. Check, please.
TANTAROS: He did send some tweets out which I have to say I don't think he should be tweeting some of the things that he was tweeting. I think the military should be nonpartisan, so I actually agree with you there, Juan.
But I think in an effort sometimes to be tolerant which is important, we end up being intolerant to others. And so, they said one of his fellow military members was gay and felt like he was being discriminated against, and this guy is going no, I'm not. So, now, they're discriminating ironically against this man.
BOLLING: We have to go.
GUILFOYLE: If you fight for freedom, can't you read about it?
(CROSSTALK)
GUILFOYLE: What are we doing here?
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