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The 2016 deal: Will Obama endorse Hillary?

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," June 3, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: So was there a secret deal struck between President Barack Obama and the Clintons? Now according to my next guest there was, and it involved the 2016 presidential election.

Now here are the details. In his book just released in paperback, author, Ed Klein notes that only reason that Bill Clinton agreed then keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention was because in return Obama was to endorse Hillary as his successor. But apparently after Obama had a change of heart, and that didn't go over well.

Here to explain all of this and more, in his first TV interview, the author of "The Amateur," Ed Klein. Welcome back, sir. How are you? Good to see you.

ED KLEIN, "THE AMATEUR" AUTHOR: It's great to be here.

HANNITY: All right, let's set the table. Bill Clinton said they played the race card on me talking about Obama. Hillary said, shame on you, Barack Obama. How was the relationship after the primary?

KLEIN: Could not have been worse. Hatfields and McCoys had nothing on the Clintons and the Obamas. These were two huge organizations in the Democratic Party who were at each other's throats.

HANNITY: Right.

KLEIN: But, a time came in the summer of 2011 when Obama looked in the mirror and realized he might lose. He had suffered a lot of setbacks by then and Axelrod, David Axelrod, his chief political guru was urging him to reach out to Bill Clinton. At the same time, Bill Clinton was urging Hillary to run against Obama in the primaries, which she refused to do.

So the two camps were both moving in different directions. They had a golf game at Andrew's Air Force golf course and at that golf course during that four-hour game, which I'm told was in very humid weather, the ground was soaking wet and so forth. They started to bang out the outline to the deal.

HANNITY: And the deal was?

KLEIN: The deal was that in return for Bill Clinton giving the major speech at the Democratic National Convention in favor of Obama, obviously, that he would be given the right to choose the next chairman of the Democratic National Committee replacing Debbie Wasserman Schultz and that Obama would agree to back Hillary in 2016.

HANNITY: I -- I know people close to Bill Clinton and I have been told -- you've heard the same thing -- Bill Clinton despises Barack Obama to this day, true?

KLEIN: Absolutely true, but it's mutual despising. The Obamas think that the Clintons are opportunists, that they don't have any principles, that they'll do anything to get elected. Where as Obama sees himself as above the fray, a guy who has great principles and as, you know, cleaner than the proverbial whatever.

HANNITY: And Bill's opinion of Obama is what? That is not up to the job, the amateur?

KLEIN: Bill -- after this deal that I talked about fell through, they had a meeting, a dinner at the White House, the Clintons and the Obamas for the very first time they ever sat down to dinner in the family quarters, and Bill lectured Obama about the fact that he, Obama had no experience as a senator where as he, Clinton, had had years and years of governor. So he made it clear to Obama at this dinner that he had very little respect for him.

HANNITY: All right, this is interesting because it was this unprecedented moment where Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton go on "60 Minutes" and it was a love fest. We've got some of that tape. Let's roll some of this tape.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "60 MINUTES"/CBS, JAN. 27)

STEVE KROFT, CORRESPONDENT: This is very improbable. This is not an interview I ever expected to be doing. But I understand, Mr. President, this was your idea. Why did you want to do this together, a joint interview?

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Well, the main thing is I just wanted to have a chance to publicly say thank you because I think Hilary will go down as one of the finest secretary of states we've had. It has been a great collaboration over the last four years. I'm going to miss her. I wish she was sticking around.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: Is he going to do that for anybody else?

KLEIN: Have you ever seen a president sit down with the secretary of state and basically give her a wet kiss? I mean, this is unprecedented, unbelievable.

HANNITY: Very descriptive. All right, so as improbable as even Steve Kroft thinks it is here, this was the pay back, but there is reneging on. Explain the reneging side.

KLEIN: After the "60 Minutes" love fest that you just mentioned and saw and the reviewers saw, Obama had second thoughts again and he let Bill know that he had heard that Joe Biden, his vice president was going to run in the primaries against Hillary in 2016. And gee, Bill, how can I possibly not back my own vice president, indicating that he was not going to back Hilary in 2016.

HANNITY: What's the reaction --

KLEIN: The Clintons believe now they can't count on the Obamas if they are going to go their own way, that they are going to forget any of these deals because every time they make a deal with him, he reneges on it.

HANNITY: So is the relationship frosty? There's one interesting thing on Benghazi. It seems like the White House -- they want to point all the fingers at the State Department. Is that on purpose?

KLEIN: Yes, very much so. And Bill thinks, in fact, at one point, he felt that Hillary was going to be made the scapegoat and he told her, if they do that, you've got to resign. And they didn't do that exactly, but she did take a lot of the responsibility --

HANNITY: To resign that --

KLEIN: Resign as secretary of state.

HANNITY: OK, but it's still happening now because she is gone.

KLEIN: She's gone and they are still saying it. But I'm told from the people in the Clinton camp that they feel pretty confident when all the cable traffic comes out between the State Department and Benghazi that Hillary will be seeing -- to see as somebody who understood the situation and did something about it.

HANNITY: All right, Ed Klein, fascinating. Appreciate it.

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