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Fighting a war on terror in American classrooms

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," May 1, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: Now in light of the Boston bombings, there are questions being raised about why former terrorists from the weather underground are being allowed to teach at America's most prestigious universities across the country.

Now first, there is Kathy Boudin who now holds an adjunct professorship at New York's Ivy League institution called Columbia University. You may recall she spent 22 years in prison for her role in an armed robbery that killed two police officers and a Brinks guard.

And we can't forget the domestic terror group's co-founder Bill Ayers. He is now a visiting scholar at Minnesota State University and is a retired professor from the University of Illinois in Chicago.

Now keep in mind this is a man who has refused to apologize for his role in bombings across the U.S. Are these really people we want indoctrinating, teaching our children?

Here with reaction, Fox News contributor, Michelle Malkin and Fox News political analyst, Juan Williams.

Juan, all right, let's project out 22 years from today, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the younger brother, the bomber that lived in the Boston marathon bombings, can you imagine any scenario? He's involved in a bombing that kills four people, including an 8- year-old, a police officer, people lose their legs and limbs, et cetera. Could you ever imagine a scenario in which he becomes a -- let's say a professor at Harvard University, teaching kids? Could you imagine that?

JUAN WILLIAMS, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: No, no.

HANNITY: So then how does Kathy Boudin, involved in killing two police officers and an armed guard, how does she get to teach at Columbia? How does Bill Ayers get to teach?

WILLIAMS: I guess, you're doing a rhetorical thing, but look, she has been convicted, right? She was convicted. She served her time. She's been paroled.

HANNITY: Paroled. This is the best Columbia University can offer its students, a convicted terrorist, domestic terrorist cop killer?

WILLIAMS: I didn't know that you're now an expert on faculty hiring at Columbia, but I guess --

HANNITY: I was thinking we might have better people than convicted domestic terrorist cop killers. I think we could find better. Call me crazy.

WILLIAMS: I think it's reprehensible what she did. I think she's a terrorist, if you want my point of view --

HANNITY: She is a terrorist and cop killer.

WILLIAMS: Are you saying that everybody's who's been convicted in America should be jobless and left on the street?

HANNITY: I'm saying this would be the same, Michelle, as Dzhokhar, 22 years from now, he gets all these degrees while he's on our dime, while in prison, then goes out and teaches at Harvard. I don't get it. Is the best we can offer our kids?

MICHELLE MALKIN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, what I don't get is just how glib Juan Williams is being about this. It's not just rhetorical. The fact is that institutions of higher learning in America, particularly the most prestigious Ivy League schools, whether it's Columbia or Yale or Northwestern -- I name those specifically because those all have been sanctuaries and havens for Weather Underground terrorists who remain unrepentant to this day.

Juan seems to be playing it off as a joke, as if we see this as funny. Juan, you have kids. You've seen them go through higher education. Fortunately, I suppose, your kids have not been exposed to this kind of poisonous apologyism for violent domestic terrorism, but it is real and an entrenched problem when you have all of these taxpayer-funded tenured radicals who still hate America to this day, and are perhaps indoctrinating the next generation of people who will commit violent acts in this country. It is not a joke.

WILLIAMS: I don't know she's doing that, Michelle, maybe you do. What I do know is in fact when you say she has no remorse, the same person she was --

MALKIN: She doesn't have remorse. Have you followed her case? Have you followed her case, Juan?

WILLIAMS: I've read the article that she wrote --

MALKIN: I may not be a real journalist, but I started writing about this case in 2002 and 2003! There are families who lost loved ones, who were defending the frontlines, protecting and serving, and this woman essentially is laughing in their faces by continuing to have this prestigious position!

WILLIAMS: Here's what I know, Michelle. You can comment on this. What I've read is that she wrote an essay in 2004 for the Fellowship for Reconciliation newsletter that said she's filled with remorse. She literally used the words, "I am sorry." She said she's met one of the people who was left fatherless by the crime she committed, the murder she was involved with, and they're --

HANNITY: So a cop killer, domestic terrorist --

MALKIN: What I know is that at her parole hearing --

WILLIAMS: This is not someone without remorse.

MALKIN: Yes. At her parole hearing she invoked every left-wing canard, blamed white guilt for murdering in cold blood Waverly Brown, Edward O'Grady and Peter Page . Maybe there was one remote relative who might have accepted that apology, but there are still people living today -- it's not just that particular case.

Remember, before she was arrested in that case, she was a fugitive involved in the bombing of a townhouse in New York, that still remain unsolved, and she ran from justice, some repentance there.

HANNITY: Let me remind everybody of the Weather Underground's incidents of violence. We'll put it up on the screen. I want to remind everybody, it was the morning of September 11th, 2001, in the New York Times, there's Bill Ayers being quoted as saying, I'm paraphrasing, "I don't regret setting bombs," I wish I had done more.

MALKIN: Stomping on the American flag, literally.

HANNITY: I'm a little shocked too, Juan. I mean, this is the best our Ivy League institutions can offer our American children, pretty much unrepentant domestic terrorists, cop killer, really? Your kid works hard to get in an Ivy League college and they get this as a professor? That doesn't outrage you, a convicted murderer of cops? Let Dzhokhar teach in 22 years, that wouldn't bother you?

MALKIN: It's indefensible. It's indefensible.

WILLIAMS: I don't want anything to do with the Weather Underground, their terrorism, left-wing terrorism, right wing terrorism.

HANNITY: How about speaking out about against this woman teaching at an Ivy League institution?

WILLIAMS: This is where I disagree with the two of you. She has served her time. Somebody convicted her of a crime, and now you have to Columbia University saying, yes, she has the skills, the knowledge, and --

HANNITY: We should hire the best at Ivy League schools.

WILLIAMS: They're a private institution. They're not doing this with taxpayer dollars. That's their decision. If you want to judge negatively, go ahead.

HANNITY: That's the best America has to offer? Michelle, last words.

MALKIN: Bill Ayers in Venezuela, he said education is the motor force of revolution. Now so many of he and his Weather Underground colleagues, Rashid Khalidi, Susan Rosenberg, have been exalted in the ivory tower. Parents, beware, do not spend your money on these people. Do not.

HANNITY: Good to see you both. Thank you.

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