THE FIVE

Krystle Campbell's mother reacts to daughter's death

Family of second Boston Marathon bombing victim searches for answers

 

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," April 16, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Earlier, we were trying to get to a quick statement by Patty Campbell, the mother of Krystle Campbell, who is the 29-year-old second identified victim besides the 8-year-old boy. Patty Campbell was the second one who was identified. Take a listen to the mother moments ago.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PATTY CAMPBELL, DAUGHTER KILLED IN BOMBINGS: We are heartbroken at the death of our daughter Krystle Marie. She was a wonderful person. Everybody that knew her loved her. She loved her dogs. She was a daddy girl. She had a heart of gold. She was always smiling. You couldn't ask for a better daughter.

We can't believe this has happened. She was hard worker in everything she did. This doesn't make any sense.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BOLLING: All right. That was Patty Campbell, the mother of Krystle Campbell, the second identified victim. Bob?

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: What struck me by the press conference, that is awfully difficult thing to follow the agony in that woman's voice.

You know, I remember in 9/11 when my kids were little and tried to explain to them why. Now, I think millions of parents trying to explain their little kids why something like this happens. The question the mother said why?

The press conference sounds to me, and I like Dana's view of this, that either they got big news and holding it back or it sounds like to me they're not very far in the investigation. What do you think?

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Well, a comment about the statements from the mother. Critically important for us to listen to those stories because for the last 24 hours we've been getting the news and breakdown what we knew. It hasn't been as personal as watching her and understanding that some cowards, some terrorists targeted innocent people at one of the happiest times of their lives in order to inflict severe damage to America and all of our subconscious.

What the government tried to do at the press conference was to come together and say, all right, we have a lot of different agencies involved. We are all working together. That is why you saw so many people behind the governor and not speaking is that they wanted to show unity.

What I think they did not do, that's because they are bees transparent about it, they did not inspire confidence they had any clue as to how this happened. They didn't hear the chatter, I would be awfully surprised if they were holding some big news back.

Now, I hope there are intelligence trails that they are using, but if you are in any major city right now and you have heightened terrorism alert, watching that press conference makes you think -- I don't know if my government is able to protect me from whoever these terrorists are who would use us to achieve their political aims. And that is the worst. You have to have the government calm people down.

BOLLING: Greg?

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: When you hear that poor woman speak, you have to forget why this happened. You have to focus on who. Screw root causes. All you have to remind yourself is the young boy that died in mother's grief, that creates all the focus you need. You have to get them and punish as harsh as possible, forget root causes.

PERINO: All right.

BOLLING: All right.

OK. So we do have Bret Baier? We have Bret Baier who is standing by. He's been listening. He is going to give us updates a little bit on the D.C., the White House reaction to all this.

Bret, what do you have for us?

BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Well, first of all, let me commented on what you have been talking about. You know, you have this 8-year-old boy who was killed, Martin Richard, who have a nine-year-old girl and 10-year-old boy among the 17 listed in critical condition. You have the trauma doctor at the Boston Children's Hospital, an excellent children's hospital coming out and saying to reporters there how sick it was that he had to pull nails and metal shrapnel from little kids in surgery today.

Many little kids during efforts to save them today. So just to add what you were saying.

About the investigation, you know, Bob, I think you asked a critical question. Whether they are holding back information or whether they don't have a lot of leads, because when they are asking for anyone, someone knows something about this, someone knows someone who did this, it doesn't sound like have a lot so far.

They have a lot of tips, 2,000 since today and lots of video to go through. We don't know exactly what they have. We obviously know about these pressure cookers and that provides some evidence.

We also know that pressure cookers have been used in previous bombings. You know, the Department of Homeland Security put out a warning about pressure cookers after the New York Times bombing in 2010 for all agencies across the country saying that this is a rudimentary an IED, improvised explosive device, and said, to look out for anyone trying to purchase the pressure cooker. See if it's on the side of the street because they could be used like they are in Afghanistan and Pakistan and in Yemen. That's not to say it's a foreign terrorist but because you go on the Internet and make one of these bombs very easily and be a domestic lone wolf just as easily as someone tied to a foreign terrorist group can.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Hi, Bret. It's Kimberly.

So, Representative Michael McCaul is a Texas Republican. He heads Homeland Security Committee. He said they were similar to ides use in Afghanistan against the American troops and in Iraq and then he also said from one of these briefings, like you said, they still don't know if this is domestic or a foreign even if something that could have terrorist ties, they could still be a naturalized citizen from the United States.

BAIER: Yes, sure. I mean, listen, you have this Al Qaeda cookbooks about how to make bombs. I mean, this particular type of bomb was described in Inspire magazine, which is Al Qaeda magazine of how to make the bomb in kitchen of your mom was the title of the article. And essentially, it is what Al Qaeda has used and Al Qaeda-inspired groups have used in different incidents.

And they have used the shrapnel taped and glued to the side of the pressure cooker. They have used the exact same thing to have the explosive to do as much damage as possible to maim or kill as many people as possible in the vicinity.

Now, these particular explosives talking to intelligence officials and others here in Washington were not huge. They were not massive explosives but they did cause damage and obviously three are dead. That number could rise since 17 are in critical condition.

BOLLING: Hey, Bret, Governor Deval Patrick now said President Obama will be visiting on Boston on Thursday. What do we expect to hear from him? What do you think we'll hear from him?

BAIER: Well, it's an interfaith service. I expect we will hear from the president like in other services he has attended, including Tucson and others. The president is a consoler in chief. He does that job very well, frankly. Many people have commented that he has comforted a lot of families in those situations very well.

When you get to Thursday and there isn't a lot of progress on this investigation or there really isn't anything that we're learning, it may be a little awkward as far as questions for investigators as the president is in town. But he is there to comfort families and comforted for Boston as it moves forward from -- I'm sure from this moment.

BECKEL: Hey, Bret, it's Bob. It sounds like these explosives were detonated out -- there is so many leg wounds here. They didn't have a large area of coverage of these things. They were on the ground obviously. And during the press conference, the FBI counterterrorism person said they were looking at fragments of evidence on roofs of buildings.

How does that equate, do you think?

BAIER: Yes, that's interesting. I don't know. I think one of the bombs was inside one of the buildings, Bob. The other one is believed to be in a trash can. They were both said to be in black nylon bags and they were both in pressure cookers attached to wooden boards, a pressure cook other a timer, outside attached to this board was a bottle filled with nails or shrapnel and ball bearings and BBs.

Unclear exactly what the explosives were, but perhaps, there are traces of explosives where they traveled. How they got to the designation they were. The last spot the last spotted was believed to be in a trash can because those were most of the leg wounds and amputations, the people who lost limbs had to happen.

PERINO: Bret, it's Dana, I wanted to ask you about the federal response. So there is a overlap counterterrorism efforts helping state and local officials. In other cities where you see heightened terror alerts, do you have any reason to believe that there for us to be concern, like in Chicago or anywhere else, what is the federal government saying about that?

BAIER: They are saying they on heightened alert. You had the Department Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano saying today that she did not believe and the federal government did not believe that the Boston incident was tied to a greater plot other than the Boston incident. Whether it has a bigger plot, in other words, tied to a bigger organization, they wouldn't say. Whether it is foreign or domestic, federal officials would not say.

But as far as anything they've heard chatter-wise intelligence wise, before or after, that is the real mystery here. They are not hearing much at all. That is a little bit unique. Usually you have terrorist groups that claim responsibility. After the New York Times square bombing you had Al Qaeda claiming right away.

You have no one right now. And sometimes that happens but it's pretty rare. They are also not hearing any chatter. They didn't hear anything before, a heightened state of alert. You heard in that press conference there wasn't a specific threat on a marathon. They had normal threat assessment heading into the race they aren't hearing anything from cell phones and radio traffic afterwards.

BOLLING: We're going to say thanks to Bret Baier. Bret will have on "Special Report" coming up right after this.

Now, we're going to head back to Bill Hemmer.

Bill, since the last time we spoke to you, we've heard from several people, law enforcement in Boston. We find that no claims of responsibility, range of suspects still wide open, Bill, and president will travel there on Thursday. Are you surprised there is so little new information?

BILL HEMMER, FOX NEWS: I tell you, Eric, we live in a 24-hour cable news world and filled with Twitter and Facebook and the internet. It's been 27 hours right about this moment here. It's only been 27 hours. The American people wanted it solved. The people of Boston want answers.

Certainly the FBI and the police working this story want it solved immediately. It does not appear to be the case at the moment. I thought one of more telling moments, when they lean on the public even harder what they described earlier. Remember about talking about the request for video and pictures?

But in this press conference, they did not hold back. Someone knows someone else that is preparing for a possible attack. They talked about recalling and jogging their memories if they heard noises of explosions that perhaps went off in a field or neighborhood nearby that would signal someone is getting ready for such an attack. They talked about jog your memory to see if someone was carrying a heavy bag that might lead you to a possible clue.

These are very overt and obvious appeals to the public to come forward with any bit of information that may be helpful. The one bit of positive news, I heard Dana you made the comment there wasn't a lot of encouragement here to express a lot of confidence.

I thought the FBI said toward the end about the amount of video that was supplied by the public, the video has been tremendous and flying in teams, some of them have already arrived, more coming, teams from Quantico, Virginia to go through the visuals -- the video that has been supplied. Everybody walks around with a camera now on their cell phone, in their pocket, in their purse and easily those cell phones can be converted into video cameras.

But whether or not those images can lead them in the right direction is something that we, the people of Boston, and everyone across this country is waiting on tonight.

GUTFELD: Yes, Bill, that's the thing that kind of troubles me, is that we live in a world where everybody is an evidence collector, and this could add by having all this information could actually lead you towards a million blind alleys. It must be hard for authorities to figure out which ones matter and which ones don't when there is so much of it.

HEMMER: I think it's an excellent point. But, you know, the way technology has advanced, in many ways they go to facial recognition, what is common in this image that appears in these two other images over, and they can put that in the algorithm of the computer and perhaps find and source the technology a quicker way to the end. You hope that's the case. You hope you are not gumming up the system.

But just listening the way they characterize this, it's clear to me and everybody else who was listening that they need that they can get at this point.

GUILFOYLE: Hi, Bill, it's Kimberly. Do you think as of yesterday, they seemed to have a focus on this potential person of interest that was in the hospital? Given the fact they seem to be really pleading, doing a lot of outreach to the public now that perhaps that is going in a different direction, they might have thought they had the person involved?

HEMMER: I recall my experience in Newtown, Connecticut, just a few months ago. And --

BOLLING: Bill, I hate to do this. I'm sorry pal, we're going to hard break.

HEMMER: You got it. Understood.

BOLLING: We've got to go. Bill Hemmer in Boston, thank you very much.

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