Take 'God' off currency?

Atheists suing U.S. Treasury


This is a rush transcript from "The Five," March 15, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Atheists filed a new lawsuit against the Treasury Department over words "In God we trust" on our money. The freedom from religion foundation and 19 other plaintiffs think the word "God" in currency violates the Constitution and is offensive to nonreligious citizens.

Similar legal challenges failed. Let me just start this by saying to atheists: I'm not -- I wish you would find the way -- my first hope for you is that you find yourself some faith.

But short of that, you are -- the minorities are the minorities. This is something that we happen to believe strongly in. This is not a violation of church and state. It doesn't say "In Catholics we trust," it doesn't say "In Jewish people, we trust". It says, "In God, we trust."

So, I think you're going to have the same problem you had when you got to the courts before. You're going to get beat.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: So, you're saying screw you minorities.

BECKEL: Yes, that's it.

GUTFELD: Finally. He says something.



BECKEL: Well, what do you think?

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Can I point something out? This freedom from religion group, I actually threw one of the founders or the president off the show once because he wasn't interested in the issue. He just was trying to make news.

These guys were like media hookers, more concerned about being on air and creating this wow factor than religious. They're like the Westboro Baptist Church, the same thing. They just want to make a scene --

GUILFOYLE: They are carnival noise making.



BECKEL: What your excuse, by the way?

BOLLING: What are you talking about? I'm for keeping, "God" on currency.

BECKEL: I know. I was just making a joke.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: For some people, God is currency, right?


PERINO: You like that one, Gutfeld?


PERINO: The thing that amazes about these stories that we do, they are more zealous about their non-belief than most people of religion and faith are about their own religion. So, just imagine if they took all of those energy that they have put towards basically causing taxpayers a lot of money to fight all of their lawsuits. If they put it toward something positive, what they could accomplish.

GUTFELD: Like a dog.

PERINO: Yes, like rescuing animals.

GUTFELD: There you go.

PERINO: Why can't they believe in that?

GUTFELD: Rescuing animals is a good thing.

BECKEL: Listen, one thing about atheists, is it seems to me they should spend time trying to spread their atheism or preach about it.

GUILFOYLE: Well, this is the way they are doing it, Bob, by being these religious obstructionists, by infringing another people's freedom of religion by saying you should have none. Therefore, I mean, they are the biggest violators.

But, Bob my little legal scholar there, they are going to lose because it's already being held that goes even 1970s. Very specific court ruling that "In God We Trust" is a national motto. It not any kind of -- you know, a violation the first American religion. Especially, it's patriotic o ceremonial character or --

PERINO: Or if they lose do they pay back the taxpayers for the waste?

BECKEL: No, but they should.


GUTFELD: This is a waste of time. They should sue the Vatican for not letting the atheist compete to be pope. This is just so bigoted.


GUILFOYLE: I'm glad you give them the idea.

BECKEL: This thing started -- you just got my joke? You got it.

BOLLING: I'm offended by that joke.

BECKEL: I'm sorry you're offended by it.

BOLLING: Media hooker.

BECKEL: But, you know, this started back -- it used to be on the currency, "E. Pluribus unum," then during the civil war, they put "God" on the coins. And then it was not until 1956 that we made this a law through Congress and said, "In God we trust" all the currency.

So, it's not something from the Founders or was in the Constitution that said it. But it never, the constitution, does it no, separation of church and state. And it's not church in that sense.

PERINO: I used to work with Mother Teresa's lawyer, Jim Towey. He ran the faith-based office at the White House.

BECKEL: Is that true?

PERINO: And he used to say, you know it's bad when Mother Teresa needs a lawyer.

BECKEL: Yes, no kidding. All right.

GUTFELD: She ran over my foot on that the bicycle.


BECKEL: I'm not even, what you want me to, I'm simply going to say --

GUILFOYLE: If I could trust you, I wouldn't put my --

BECKEL: Of course you trust me. Every Friday and Saturday night, you trust me.



GUILFOYLE: Bob, I don't spend Friday and Saturday night with you.

PERINO: In her dreams.

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