Too much testosterone in Washington?

Do women make better lawmakers?


This is a rush transcript from "The Five," January 4, 2013. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Well, it was an historic day in Washington yesterday as 20 women were sworn in the U.S. Senate. That's a record number. But is there something about being a woman that makes them superior lawmakers?

California's Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein seems to think so. Here is what she told ABC's Diane Sawyer in an interview with her fellow female senators.


SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN, D-CALIF.: I don't watch people who watch the show to think we are some kind of sorority, because we're not. We all march to the sound of different drummers to some extent. We're less on testosterone. We don't have a need to always be confrontational. I think we're problem-solvers. And I think that's what this country needs.


TANTAROS: OK. I actually, Dana, agree with what she said, having worked for a female on the Hill. They are problem-solvers. They don't have the testosterone and they seem to work better together.


TANTAROS: Greg is disgusted.

What do you think?

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: No, it's true.



GUTFELD: Go ahead and then I'll respond to your garbage.

PERINO: All right. So, the other day, I was on a conference call for a policy related type thing that I'm no longer a part of.

GUTFELD: It must be nice.

PERINO: And there were seven men on the call and three women. I'm telling you, the women, even though we are from different political backgrounds, we were definitely support of one another, driving the process forward, getting to the conclusion, using the language and not getting credit for it and getting it done.

I think there is something to be said about that. Instead of like laughing and making fun of people all the time, as that's how you make a living.

GUTFELD: Can I respond?

TANTAROS: You can.

GUTFELD: All right. Women getting along well is the longest running lie in the history of the world that women are consensus builders -- baloney.

PERINO: In the workplace?

GUTFELD: Let me finish, please?

TANTAROS: Wait, that's two different things, though. I'll call you on that.

Getting along and getting to a solution are two different things.

GUTFELD: Perhaps. But I want you to name one female rock band that stayed together longer than four years. The Runaways, no. The Bangles, no. Spice Girls, no.


GUTFELD: Heart, maybe.

Maroon 5, an exception. I was trying to get to Maroon 5 joke.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: The squeegee.

BOLLING: That was a good joke, too.

BECKEL: You know, if it were up to me, frankly, I'd have 75 percent of the House and t Senate be female. They do actually --

GUTFELD: Yes, but that's for a different reason, Bob.

TANTAROS: Bob is a feminist.

BECKEL: No, no, listen, I'm telling you, it is true. I worked from the White House and on the Hill. Every time I have done that, women have moved the ball along. And the men do get into testosterone. You are right about that.

They do. By the way, her sentiment was shared by Republican women.

BOLLING: Her sentiment is so ridiculous. What did she say? Too much testosterone, what did they want to do? What do men want to do? They want to --

TANTAROS: They want to -- too much testosterone and don't have a need to be confrontational.

BOLLING: Confrontational. What if I said there should be more men because women are so emotional?


If you said women shouldn't be lawmakers because they're too emotional, yes, you'd be hammered for it. There is a double standard.

BECKEL: Confrontational? That's your definition.

BOLLING: So many, 20 out of 100.

GUTFELD: Does anybody watch "The View"? Do you want your government run by "The View"?

TANTAROS: I will say this, having been in a sorority. Women do -- they are at each other's throats.

GUTFELD: Yes, they are. I agree --


TANTAROS: They find it hard to get along.

But I do agree with what Dana is trying to say. We can if we are given a goal work together.


GUTFELD: If the goal is to ruin another woman's life.

TANTAROS: Who stole our boyfriend or something like that.

BOLLING: Explain these two women on "The Five" that are saying there should be more women in Congress and the Senate. Why don't women vote for women then?

PERINO: It's a great question. Why don't women fund other women? Like in campaigns.

GUTFELD: Actually, this is a great point, not just in politics, but on "American Idol" or reality show, the women always vote the women out.

PERINO: Not true. Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Cassadee Pope. Done.

GUTFELD: You don't have the proof on that. Where is that --

PERINO: They won those contests.

GUTFELD: Dana's floating head is lying.

TANTAROS: Speaking of floating head, we have to get to your buddy.

BECKEL: Can I make a fast point?

TANTAROS: Yes, you can.

BECKEL: When people come up to the Congress, the House and Senate, come up through system of state legislators and the rest of it, which is heavily dominated by males. It will change.

PERINO: And that has changed. There is a lot more Republicans.

GUTFELD: If you do, socialist paradise. Thank you, everybody.

TANTAROS: From one female senator point of view to another female senator swearing in, yesterday, Joe Biden was on the Hill. And Senator Heidi Heitkamp had some interesting comments to make when the photographer was doing his thing.


PHOTOGRAPHER: Drop your hands to your side, please. Just like that. Look straight.

VICE PRESIDENT JOSEPH BIDEN: Spread your legs, you're going to be frisked.

Drop your hands -- you say that to somebody in North Dakota, they think it's a frisk.

You think you're in trouble, right?


TANTAROS: Drop your hands to the side. That is all he said for photo. He said, "Spread your legs, you're going to be frisked"?

BECKEL: Well, I mean, look --

GUTFELD: I got to defend him. I'll defend him.

BECKEL: Good. Go.

GUTFELD: You do photo ops constantly and you have to say something over and over and over again. After a while, you're not even thinking.

Fortunately, he starts that way. But, I kind --

PERINO: I'll defend him. He is funny. And he's just making conversation. And the thing is like he does have a problem where he says things like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I said that. Sometimes he doesn't know what he has said is hilarious, like the big stick.

TANTAROS: Yes, that's the problem.

BECKEL: Everybody watches Joe all the time for this gaffe. If any other public servant was watched all the time, you could find gaffes.

GUTFELD: But you know what? Dan Quayle got brutalized for stuff like this.


GUTFELD: We just love Biden.

TANTAROS: There is a petition on the White House, their site, that he is on a reality show. I'll actually sign up for that petition.

BECKEL: Dan Quayle?

TANTAROS: No, Joe Biden.

You see this picture? I think we have a full screen of it. But it's a picture of the female members of the House on steps in front of the Capitol. But there's a bit of controversy, because if you look at one picture, it's a little different than the other picture.

Here, Nancy Pelosi superimposed four females that weren't able to make the photo. Dana, you say this is a problem.

PERINO: I don't think government should be changing photos unless they tell you that on the front end. It should come with a big warning label that says this photo was altered because it was freezing and members of Congress were late.

I understand they wanted a picture altogether. I don't understand when it's 30-degrees going out there without your coats, and maybe they could have figured out another way. But government, we should not allow as citizens and taxpayers, should not allow the government to alter photographs, nor transcripts.

And all you reporters out there -- remember when Tony Snow forgot to thank somebody. And then we try to add, he wanted to add it back in transcript. Everybody had a conniption.

BECKEL: I couldn't agree with you more. Exactly right. When government starts down this road, it doesn't stop. And he Obama administration has problems with this. And you got to just -- there ought to be a base rule. Do not alter anything.

TANTAROS: Well, I'm glad you say that because we have a picture I think the viewers should see, Bob.

That's you in the picture.

BECKEL: Where?

TANTAROS: That's you.

BECKEL: I see.

BOLLING: Isn't that Alan Grayson?

TANTAROS: That's Bob.

BECKEL: That's very good.

PERINO: What was point? What was your point?

TANTAROS: Yes, Greg?

GUTFELD: Never mind.

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