This is a rush transcript from "The Five," November 19, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: So it looks like the White House changed the talking points that called the attack in Benghazi the work of Al Qaeda. The teensy tiny edit they made -- the Al Qaeda reference became act of extremism which then fed into this spontaneous mob narrative, that -- thanks to Susan Rice -- spread like an office cold. From there, more people died.
So now we know who pushed the video I think. Now the question is and we'll tell us? They are trying hard not to. This is an administration suffering from "wordophobia" -- a fear of using language to accurately describe stuff.
They still consider Fort Hood massacre a workplace violence, which is calling Ted Bundy a bad boyfriend. Video cause spontaneous upset is this week's euphemism for what we naively call terror. You've heard of double speak? This is triple speak, designed to confuse the listener and hide unpleasant facts.
But this isn't a George Orwell book, and four Americans are dead. So, why the latest example of Obama speak? The timing -- an Al Qaeda attack before the election, that's like a jerk throwing up in the punch bowl. The whole Obama destroying Al Qaeda story becomes shakier than an IKEA bookcase.
So, instead let's blame amateur video maker with about as much influence as a HuffPo blogger. In plain language, it's a cover-up.
And so, as the president talks about how great education is, he is really the great un-learner. Meaning, I get dumber every time I hear him, which is why the more he talks, the more I understand him.
All right, Bob.
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Yes?
GUTFELD: All right. We know who did it now.
BECKEL: Who is that?
GUTFELD: The guy, the person who pushed the video. We now know.
BECKEL: Who was it?
GUTFELD: I thought you were going say who it was.
GUTFELD: It's the White House.
GUTFELD: Yes, it was.
BECKEL: No. It was not the White House.
There is -- what happened here, by the way, the attacks on Susan Rice are disgraceful, disgusting --
GUTFELD: Oh, please. We'll get to that.
BECKEL: -- by a degenerate group of people in the Senate who have no right to do this.
GUTFELD: You are such a hero to women everywhere, Bob. I applaud. The help you have done for women, especially young Eastern European women. Great for you.
BECKEL: Was that necessary?
GUTFELD: No, I'm just going out --
BECKEL: I think what happened here was the CIA did put in the talking points. They did mention, said it was Al Qaeda. It was not Al Qaeda. But Al Qaeda, it's a named they adopted.
But leaving it aside, they did put it in. In the deputies meeting of all these various department of the United States government who are responsible for this, somebody took it out. And when it went to the White House, it was talking points that did not have Al Qaeda in there, or the terrorist organization.
Somebody was looking to defend Obama before the election.
BECKEL: I understand that. I don't know who that was. But that doesn't make Susan Rice any different. She was given talking points and she knew nothing different about that.
GUTFELD: She's incompetent.
ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Did Bob Beckel just admit that somebody omitted the term "Al Qaeda" to help Barack Obama before the election? Wow.
BECKEL: Part of that is Al Qaeda doesn't exist. I mean, it's a ridiculous --
TANTAROS: Let's save that clip because I think we're going to need to use that over and over and over again.
It was political appointees who took it out. We knew that. It wouldn't be a good storyline if somehow before an election, on 9/11, the country was attacked.
And it's not just that. It's not just what they should be finding out about, who pushed the video. They should be finding out why that embassy or the consulate, I should say, was not secured when it had had been attacked twice before and the British embassy had been attacked and they requested more security and more green berets, yet they pulled out the green berets. No one can answer that.
BECKEL: Can I just make one point? In 9/11, Al Qaeda was an international organization. It was well-funded and well-organized. Today, it is something south of a California gang war.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: That's not fair to say. It's not fair to say.
BECKEL: It is true.
GUTFELD: Don't insult L.A. gangs.
BECKEL: What would you say about it?
BOLLING: Because it splintered off to cells and it doesn't fall under one man's rule, that means it's weaker or not more vast? I mean, there's an argument to be made that it's in Yemen, it's in Libyan, it's in Lebanon. It could in any places. It might be bigger than it was on 9/11 of 2001.
BECKEL: A lot of terrorist organizations adopted their name.
BOLLING: Let's get back to what the topic is. Let's get back to why White House scrubbed Al Qaeda from --
BECKEL: They didn't scrub it.
BOLLING: All right. Well, whoever did it, whatever they did.
GUTFELD: It's the White House --
BECKEL: No, it's the government.
BOLLING: Here's the two questions. Number one, why did they do it? I disagree with you. I don't think they did it because of an attack on American soil prior to election is bad thing. I think they did it because going to Las Vegas the day after four Americans are dead or in the hours of aftermath of four Americans dying isn't good. And there's no way to cover that up.
GUTFELD: That's a fair point.
BOLLING: Number two, I have -- you guys may not agree with me even on the right, why did General Petraeus still stick with the video story, though? I just can't figure out why Petraeus with his own talking points, had them scrubbed, and then went with the other one.
TANTAROS: There's no evidence for a video.
GUTFELD: He had other things on his mind.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: And is there any doubt what the White House storyline would have been and what the talking points would have been had they prevented this attack and disrupted it? Then would the leaks about the national security and disrupting the attack from Al Qaeda -- they called it Al Qaeda when they disrupted the underwear bomber. So -- and he came from the same area. So I assume that is still Al Qaeda.
But there's one very simple way to find this out if President Obama wanted. What he does is tells his chief of staff, oink, round up the top -- I want to know who sent this. Let's get this all out in the open. I want it done by 3:00 tomorrow.
Believe me, it could get done if they wanted it to.
PERINO: But they don't.
TANTAROS: It was so obvious there was never any evidence for a video. The CIA originally said it was terror. Why or how did they even get a story about a video? I have no idea.
BECKEL: Do you think the protests were about the video or not? Or the other 21 countries that had protests --
GUTFELD: It's us blaming the video.
TANTAROS: And if you want to get to Egypt, why would the Muslim Brotherhood gin up those protests on our embassy which is supposed to be U.S. territory? We don't talk about that a lot. It's going great in Egypt, right, Bob? Great in Egypt.
BECKEL: You have no evidence they ginned that up. That's ridiculous.
BOLLING: Something we pointed out there, the night of those attacks. I went on YouTube and checked it out. There were 3,000 views of that.
GUTFELD: Yes, there was nothing.
BOLLING: Three thousand. There were more people protesting than who had seen the video at that point in time.
BECKEL: But you got to remember, it was broadcast --
PERINO: But to blame free speech -- also, when you are a Cabinet level officer -- you know, the other thing they've said is that Ambassador Rice didn't have anything to do with Benghazi. OK, well, then why send her out to all the talk shows if she is going to be completely divorced from it? What were -- none of this makes any sense. And believe me, when you have a breaking news event, you put the person who is most responsible and most knowledgeable on TV.
I notice that none of the men stuck up for her. Where is Clapper? Couldn't be found. Donilon? Why wasn't he on this --
BECKEL: She was --
PERINO: Why would they use here -- they blamed her to let her try to blame the video and now, basically, they've ruined her reputation. I blame the men.
BECKEL: And I think they hung her out to try because nobody else was willing to would do it. And Hillary Clinton wouldn't do it because after Colin Powell's experience --
TANTAROS: They already hung her out to die, two female human shields. One is Hillary Clinton and one is Susan Rice. And nobody is talking about that.
BECKEL: But don't accuse Susan Rice then of being part of a conspiracy.
BECKEL: She was given talking points to say.
PERINO: Let me just tell you something as spokesperson. You have an obligation to say, are these correct? And ask the next question and think it through.
And you have some responsibility for your words. You have can't just blame that somebody else told me to say it.
BOLLING: Can I give you example, Beckel? There are a lot of times they write something for you in the script, Camera Three, right? Sometimes you say I'm not going to say that. Why is that?
GUTFELD: That's all the time.
BECKEL: If you are her, why would you go out anyway after Colin Powell's experience?
PERINO: Always bring it back.
TANTAROS: It's an administration that refuses to acknowledge terror when it happens. It's always a lone wolf or an isolated incident or a video.
BECKEL: Or a series of weapons of mass destruction that got us in a war.
TANTAROS: They can never acknowledge there.
GUTFELD: All right. On that note --
PERINO: I knew at some point deep in their hearts they really do believe it's President Bush's fault.
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