THE FIVE

Shocker: Media declare Obama winner of presidential debate

Debate result a forgone conclusion?

 

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," October 17, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: The debate was like a pair of sleeping campers: intense.

Romney did great considering it was two against one and it was hilarious watching someone fact-check Mitt and get it wrong.

(LAUGHTER)

You finally get the joke.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: I got it.

GUTFELD: That maybe the most embarrassing journalism since Alec Baldwin debut at The Huffington Post.

But it's amazing how accurate the headlines touting Obama's comeback turn out to be, especially since they were written a week ago.

So, was the media right to say he won? Well, here's their proof. Obama did not cross dress. He didn't shoot an audience member in the face. He didn't strangle a kitten and pledge his allegiance to Satan.

Meaning, he did better than two weeks ago, which is like saying New Orleans has improved since post-Katrina.

Fact is, there is no way he could do worse and there's no way the media wouldn't give him a gold star. I call this media doping, it's like blood doping, except they have Obama in their veins.

So, Obama put his tough guy face on last night, the one he pulls out for Republicans, but puts away when Hugo Chavez shows up for Yahtzee. He followed Biden's lead, which is like Batman following Robin. But despite his mimicking of the Boy Blunder, it's still felt forced. Confrontation is not Obama's strong suit. That's why we have drones.

But while the media tries to convince itself that their guy won, ask yourself, do the families of the four dead from Libya have answers? If the media spent half as much time asking that instead of cheering President Petulant, the answer might be "yes."

Andrea, are you surprised that the media said he won? I mean, there was a poisonous, huge, smelly gust of wind across America and that was a sigh of relief from the left.

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: They had to say that he won.

GUTFELD: Yes.

TANTAROS: I mean, to your point, he could not have done much worse than he did the last debate.

GUTFELD: Yes.

TANTAROS: What I thought was interesting is every time you knew he was in trouble, you could tell because, one, he either looked at moderator like he did with Jim Lehrer, almost saying, help me, help me, help me, Candy, help me -- fact check him, do something. Or, he physically got out of his seat to try and quiet Romney down.

But I think the thing that appalled me the most is on the two issues where Americans died, the president did not answer the question. He did not even address "Fast and Furious" and he didn't give us a straight answer on Libya. And that's five Americans dead.

GUTFELD: Bob, I want to ask you this word dichotomy. CBS gave it to Obama. You give it to Obama. CNN gave it to Obama.

However, when you look at the issues, like the economy, health care, taxes, deficit and leadership, he kills. Romney wins on the issues. But -- how does that work?

BECKEL: Well, it tells you something, doesn't it? In a situation like we are in now, any plausible Republican should be ahead by seven or eight points. And the reason that it's tough to beat an incumbent president -- it always has been -- is you have to have somebody to take his place.

When Romney went through that litany of problems that United States faces, everyone has already heard that before. What he did not come up with is a single -- single -- answer to what he was going to do about it.

I thought the best moment from the whole thing was when Obama said you don't have a plan -- a tax plan for five --

(CROSSTALK)

BECKEL: Yes, I'm sorry.

GUTFELD: Yes, you're doing that one later.

BECKEL: It was Romney -- Romney was -- I thought he had some good moments but I thought Barack Obama came back, the real Barack Obama, and I think he had him on the defense all night long.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: That's why he is doing poorly. The real President Obama came back and you see in all of the key areas that matter, that people are going to decide to vote on, that Romney was ahead in all of them -- including with women.

I always thought that the interrupting of each other and of the moderator against both the candidates, 28 times interrupted Romney and only nine times Obama, three extra minutes for Obama than for Romney -- I mean, something really has got to change at the next presidential commission when they go to the 2016 to decide, I think they should look back on these last three debates and say we've got to fix this.

GUTFELD: A dance off.

(LAUGHTER)

TANTAROS: I love that.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Can I also again, staying on the moderator, Candy Crowley?

There were three different occasions where she tried to cut the president off because the time was off and he is said, no, Candy, this is very important. No, Candy, this will determine the difference between our two -- race. Three times and she let him go for a longer time. I had a problem with that.

Bob mentioned if there were a "plausible" Republican candidate he would be winning by seven or eight points. Well, Mitt Romney, as we found out today, is up by six points, according to Gallup. So, we're close. So, therefore he must be plausible.

And lastly, Greg, intense, drones and President Petulant -- three great lines in your monologue.

BECKEL: He's up by six in a rolling Gallup poll.

Look, is he ahead in this race? The answer is yes. Is he above 50 percent? No.

And the other problem that Mitt Romney has got is President Obama's favorability, personal favorability is up over 50 percent and Romney still mired in the 40s --

(CROSSTALK)

PERINO: Even after these debates?

BECKEL: They just don't like the man. They don't like the guy.

BOLLING: The Gallup poll has Mitt at 50.

TANTAROS: We should note. That's right, Eric. Gallup has him at 50. And historically speaking, Bob, any candidate that was at 50 percent in the Gallup poll always consistently went on to win. And I would also point, it should be --

BECKEL: What? What?

TANTAROS: Yes. It should be the incumbent that should be leading. An incumbent president should be leading Mitt Romney right now. You can't just put the onus on Romney if you're winning, even though he is.

And third point, what was Obama's plan last night? The fact that he didn't offer any vision for the next four years, even got picked up by The New York Times editorial board today where they said, what is he going to do the next four years? The Wall Street Journal did the same exact thing. No vision for the next four years. No plan.

GUTFELD: Bob, either you are having a stroke or -- I'm looking at your face.

BECKEL: I'm just overwhelmed.

Just for purposes of the record, Gallup has done a rolling poll for about three presidential elections, which does not statistically make a model for you.

Secondly, I don't believe that is an accurate statement if you have 50 percent at this stage of the game that you go on to win, I am not so sure.

TANTAROS: Yes, I'm absolutely right. I stand by that 110 percent.

BECKEL: OK. I'd like to see where Kerry was versus Bush at this stage of the game.

But there's only three races here. So, you can't make some statement about historically. Historically is not 12 years.

PERINO: Can I get to one other thing? Because I called a person today that I trust, a mom, Kimberly Guilfoyle, I said -- one of our co-hosts here. What did you think?

GUTFELD: So that's who called in the morning.

(LAUGHTER)

Anyway, go ahead.

PERINO: Yes. I called and she was up and ready to go, I just wanted to say, if you are a mom, because I'm not a mom and I wanted to know what did you think? And she said that she thought that Obama came off as cocky. It might not be a surprise -- she's obviously been a big Romney supporter here. But she said that she felt Romney gave her confidence she could put her kids' future in his hands.

That I thought was something that maybe is reflected in some of these polls where women across the board have said they go up when it comes to leadership, economy, deficit, health care, all to go to Romney. Likability is coming down for Obama and I think there's good reason for it. And Biden did not help him at all.

BECKEL: We'll see what the polls say by next Wednesday or Thursday, right?

PERINO: True, indeed.

GUTFELD: But there's no -- the bounce for Biden was a cinderblock. So who knows?

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