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Coulter: 'White guilt' is bad for America

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," September 24, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: Always an honor and pleasure we're joined in studio, an author of a brand-new book out today, It's called "Mugged: Racial Demagoguery From the Seventies to Obama," available in bookstores everywhere. Ann Coulter is with us.

They lied. This is the bottom line here. They say, the YouTube video -- there were two ways of attack. This is not spontaneous. Oh, I just happen to have a missile-fired grenade that I'm about to shoot into a consulate and kill an ambassador.

ANN COULTER, AUTHOR, "MUGGED": Well, you think it wasn't the YouTube video? Is that what you're telling me?

HANNITY: The one released in July?

(LAUGHTER)

COULTER: So, ironic was, Obama said on "60 Minutes," because I consider his whole administration a bump in the road. His presidency a bump in the road.

HANNITY: No, that's a good point. This thing is, look, we have two Navy SEALs. We've got an ambassador. The ambassador is saying, I'm afraid, I'm on a terror hit list. He writes it in his diary.

COULTER: Right.

HANNITY: Are we to believe that he wrote it in his diary, but he didn't tell anybody in a cable or an email, and how do we get to the bottom of this, so we can tell their families the truth that they screwed up?

COULTER: Right. Well, as I told you two weeks ago, I was a little suspicious since it all started on 9/11, something the White House didn't seem to notice. And all of that, I mean, that goes back to my last book, not the one out tomorrow --

HANNITY: Right.

COULTER: -- about mobs. And of course, I mean, you know, we could all see this Arab Spring was going to be a disaster. Mob movements have never led to anything good. And also, I mean this diary, and everything else, the initial reaction when Romney said, which was absolutely true, that the administration was sympathizing with the people who were out there murdering our ambassador by blaming on this YouTube video about Muhammad was that Romney had his facts wrong, and that sympathetic statement went out from the Cairo embassy before the violence started. Well, then, what were they responding to? They must have been responding to something.

HANNITY: Yes.

COULTER: And if they had information that they were responding to, this little trailer on YouTube, why weren't the embassies fortified?

HANNITY: And by the way, Jay Carney, this isn't about America, but there are Americans embassies, American flags ripped down and burned, al-Qaeda flags raised, and chanting "Death to America." It's a good indication that it might be about America, and that the president apologizing for quote, "torture" and he's going to close Gitmo, didn't exactly pan out. I have one last question on this. And that is the president's entire handling of the rises of radical Islamists.

COULTER: Yes. Big problem.

HANNITY: He pushed out Mubarak. We've got the Muslim Brotherhood, we've got President Morsi who by the way a 9/11 truthers who calls the Jews vampires, associates with Hamas and all these other terror groups.

COULTER: No, you've been right about the Muslim Brotherhood all this time, and the president has been wrong.

HANNITY: Watch this ad. And I want to get your reaction to it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ANNOUNCER: There's a Muslim Brotherhood rally for their new Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi.

EGYPT PRESIDENT MOHAMED MORSI: (SPEAKING ARABIC) Our capital shall not be Cair, Mecca or Medina. It shall be Jerusalem, Allah willing.

ANNOUNCER: They want to conquer Israel and renew long severed ties with Iran, a country building nuclear weapons to slaughter the Israeli people. Death to Israel. The Muslim Brotherhood's top leaders even write about taking over America.

President Obama, you invited the Muslim Brotherhood to the White House legitimizing a group that wants to undermine America and destroy Israel? You sent them $1.5 billion of our taxpayer dollars? Why, Mr. President? Why?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HANNITY: It's actually $2 billion. He just canceled quietly the meeting with Morsi, because I guess, he had more time for the Letterman, for the "The View," for Beyonce, for Jay-Z, for fundraising, for campaigning and he's not meeting with the single world leader while he is in the UN tomorrow.

COULTER: Yes. Well, his foreign policy is a mess. You have the Arab world exploding. And it wouldn't be exploding in Libya if though he is a monster, this Libyan strongman Qaddafi was friendly to the U.S., had already given up his weapons of mass destruction, had even paid off the families from the Lockerbie bombing, which he finally admitted responsibility for, after Bush invaded Iraq. We got a lot out of the Iraq war, but they're not talking about this on the other stations, because they can't talk about Obama's foreign policy or domestic policy, all they can do is accuse Republicans of racism.

HANNITY: All right. Conservatives rarely want to bring up the issue of race. It has become a -- if you mention the word "Chicago," it's now a --

COULTER: There's a new one tonight on "Chris Matthews."

HANNITY: What's this?

COULTER: Apartment is racist.

HANNITY: Apartment is racist. All right. Well, you think about, everything is racist.

COULTER: You guys are so lucky, I do nothing but watch MSNBC.

HANNITY: Racial Demagoguery From the Seventies to Obama. "Mugged."

Tthis is just a short montage of things that have been, you know, Al Gore, they don't want to count you in the census, Republicans have the wrong policy about black America. Just watch a little snippet, because it goes on every election cycle. Watch this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)

FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, WHYY RADIO, PHILADELPHIA, PA, JUNE 21, 2008: I think that they played the race card on me. And we now know from memos from the campaign and everything that they planned to do it all along.

FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER, "NIGHTLY NEWS"/NBC, SEPT. 16, 2009: An overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man.

MICHELLE WILLIAMS, NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY CHIEF OF STAFF, BLACK POWER RADIO, AUGUST 12: The Republicans hate black people.

FORMER VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE, JULY 16, 1998: They are in favor of affirmative action if you can dunk the basketball or sink a three-point shot. But they're not in favor of it if you merely have the potential to be a leader in your community.

OBAMA, JULY 30, 2008: You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills, you know.

VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, AUG. 14: They're going to put you all back in chains.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN, MISSOURI DEMOCRATIC PARTY AD, NOV. 1998: When you don't vote, you allow another cross to burn.

VA. STATE SENATOR LOUISE LUCAS, (D-PORTSMOUTH), "THE JOHN FREDERICKS SHOW"/WHKT AM 1650, JULY 20: He's speaking to that friend out there who do not want to see anybody other than a white person in a leadership position.

UNIDENTIFIED CHILD, POLITICAL AD, 2000: On June 7th, 1998, in Texas, my father was killed, beaten, chained, and dragged three miles to his death all because he was black. So when Governor George W. Bush refused to support hate crimes legislation, it was like my father was killed all over again.

(END VIDEO CLIPS)

HANNITY: Every election, class warfare, scare old -- people, race card.

COULTER: Right.

HANNITY: You decided to go after the issue of Democrats playing the race card, hard.

COULTER: And their racism, and just take the first three from your beautiful montage there. We start with Bill Clinton, champion to black people.

HANNITY: First black president.

COULTER: When he was inaugurated, when he was first elected governor, he embraced Orval Faubus at his inauguration. The man who blocked the Little Rock schoolhouse door and Republican President Dwight Eisenhower and had to send federal troops. When Clinton was president, he invited his mentor, J. William Fulbright to the White House to give him the presidential Medal of Freedom.

Next one, Jimmy Carter --

HANNITY: Well, Fulbright was a segregationist.

COULTER: Oh, see -- not only did he vote against the 24 Civil Rights Act. He signs the Southern Manifesto. He was a ferocious segregationist as well as Orval Faubus, Bill Clinton's good friends.

The next one you had is oh, Jimmy Carter, the un-overwhelming proportion of the Tea Partiers. Our racist -- Jimmy Carter also claims he cried, he cried when Ronald Reagan gave the alleged -- this is a big myth of the left -- the Philadelphia speech opened his campaign in 1980 in the home of the KKK.

No, Ronald Reagan didn't. He opened his campaign in New Jersey, and then Detroit, and when he was in Detroit, he made fun of Jimmy Carter for actually giving his opening speech in the home of the KKK that time. And I would add that Jimmy Carter also endorsed Maddox for governor, the segregationist restaurant owner who chased blacks from his restaurant with a shotgun. And he was endorsed by Jimmy Carter, a dDemocrat running of course against the Republican integrationist.

Al Gore, well, of course his father, Al Gore Sr., voted against the '64 Civil Rights Act, was an unrepentant segregationist. All these are liberals. The segregationists in the Senate were not only all Democrats, they weren't all Southerners but they all were Democrats. They remained Liberals. There was only one of more than a dozen that ever became a Republican, it's the only one people associate with segregations. Strom Thurmond, 18 years after running as a Dixie-Crat, notice he did not call himself a Dixie-can, because the segregation wing, the racist wing, that always part of the Democratic Party, the same way the abortion ladies are part of the Democratic Party now. And they have tried to make up for this awful history by, first of all, just reversing the parties, they call the Democrat segregationist Southerners -- again not all Southerners --

HANNITY: But when you look at demographics, in a sense these tactics, class warfare, scaring granny, and the race card has been -- you have to acknowledge a truth. The truth is to a certain extent it has been successful.

COULTER: Yes. Because Democrats are demagogues, they are always appealing to a mob, ginning people up with lies and anger. And then having been the segregationists and the racist and of course the Klan was an outgrowth of the Democratic Party, they spent the next several decades fighting imaginary racists, generally, you know, Irish cops who lived in Queens.

And that's what I go through at the beginning of the book. We had decades of hate crimes, alleged racial shootings. I mean, according to The New York Times, the Klan was running the police force in New York. And it was only when the O.J. verdict -- I mean, that's the arc of the book. I mean, that actually set America free.

HANNITY: You go back to that. Before we get to revisiting all of this, I want to stay this with this campaign. We'll get to that in a second.

COULTER: I'd be very happy to.

HANNITY: All right. But if you don't vote for President Obama.

COULTER: Yep.

HANNITY: The insinuation is you're racist -- if you oppose ObamaCare, you oppose the stimulus bill, jobs bill, if you're a Tea Party member. This is a narrative. All of these -- elect Republicans, a black church is going to burn.

COULTER: Right.

HANNITY: Al Gore screaming at the top of his lungs, Republicans have the wrong agenda for African-Americans. They don't even want to count you in the Census, which leads to by the way, voter ID laws.

COULTER: Yes.

HANNITY: That's racist.

COULTER: Yes.

HANNITY: But you can't get into the DNC unless you have a voter ID.

COULTER: Yes.

HANNITY: Or some type of ID.

COULTER: It is never white guilt -- whites being bullied by racism, by white liberals, by the way, who ought to be guilty about something -- has never led to anything good, led to the John Lindsay administration in this city -- and finally because of the O.J. verdict, we got through, we got Giuliani which has saved tens of thousands of black lives by enforcing criminal laws, by going after criminals despite being called a racist throughout his tenure. White guilt has produced mistake after mistake including the 2008 election when more whites voted for Obama than voted for a Democrat for decades.

HANNITY: Under Rudy Giuliani, 600,000 fewer people -- and by the way, there are more, in terms of actual numbers, there are more whites than blacks on food stamps, et cetera, but we have 15 million more. Under Giuliani, Republicans, you know, their opportunity increases for everybody.

COULTER: And they're less likely to be killed by criminals. Oh, yes. Absolutely. It's a lie foisted on America by white liberals, not by black people. And they are up to their old tricks again. And they have been doing this from the Philadelphia speech to the apocryphal Southern strategy. Southern strategy was a landslide strategy. And an important chapter in the book I point out that we never did win the Goldwater states. We won the South once the Dixiecrats died out. They kept voting for the Democrats.

HANNITY: It's amazing because this is such revisionism.

COULTER: Yes.

HANNITY: You know, one of the things you said in the book is, the slogan during the Bush years. Remember Hillary Clinton, we got this right to disagree and -- screaming.

COULTER: Yes.

HANNITY: Now, you point out that dissent was patriotic then, but now dissent is racist.

COULTER: Oh, yes.

HANNITY: In this election, which has now become a mantra. It's being repeated now. There's a political strategy, tactical strategy that we have to deal with here.

COULTER: Yes!

HANNITY: And that is, how do Republicans, how does Al Gore have the audacity to say this?

COULTER: Yes.

HANNITY: How do they get with -- the James Bird ad in 2000, the Missouri ad in '98. It's happening now.

COULTER: Willie Horton. Willie Horton, an ad that never showed a picture of Willie Horton and it was the greatest political ad in U.S. history. It nailed Michael Dukakis for a policy he was solely responsible.

HANNITY: A convicted murderer gets a weekend pass.

COULTER: Furloughing, that was exclusively Michael Dukakis' veto. Even the Massachusetts legislature knew it was insane when the Massachusetts Supreme Court extended weekend furloughs to first-degree murderers who were never supposed to be let out of prison. But no, no, no, Michael Dukakis proudly with the admiration of the ACLU vetoed it. And that had more effect on the 1988 election than any other. And so, what liberals do? First, they lie about furlough policies when that doesn't work, they call it racist.

HANNITY: All right. But you go through it like a history the way we have, in many ways we've allowed this narrative to build and build and build. And whenever there's a high-profile case, you go back to O.J., you go back to Rodney King. We've seen, I guess you mentioned the more recent one, Trayvon Martin, the Duke lacrosse case. In every single case a narrative gets advanced and moved into the political arena.

COULTER: Right.

HANNITY: What have we learned from all of these cases? Because there is -- step by step, what is happening?

COULTER: What we've learned is everyone, blacks especially, are better off when the white guilt bank is shut down, as it was for more than a decade after the O.J. verdict, and liberals kept trying to push the racial narrative in their newspapers and on TV. But Americans just weren't buying it. They were done after October 3rd, 1995, when they saw that verdict and saw black law students at Howard University cheering it, that was it.

And for a dozen years, we had paradise. Suddenly people weren't walking on eggshells. You could have Giuliani enforcing sane criminal laws in New York -- and not caring that he wasn't called -- that he was constantly being called a racist by liberals and Al Sharpton and the Clinton administration. Look what it did. And look what it did to New York. It transformed the city and it saved -- because the policies were continued -- tens of thousands of black lives.

HANNITY: How about in terms of the political campaign? We now have -- I don't even really call them conservatives, but you know, the David Frums (ph) of the world, those that are out there suggesting Romney is mismanaging the campaign. You've been an early -- you know, loud, vocal supporter, you wanted Mitt Romney, you got him. He picked I think a great vice presidential candidate. And that's Paul Ryan. You see the polls. It's neck and neck. Maybe a little different in some of those swing states. Some people are almost writing -- you know, the finger-pointing has begun among the inner elite Republican circle as if Election Day's happened.

COULTER: Right. No, don't worry. Romney is going to win. But the media is in war mode. And that's why they are not talking about Benghazi. All they are talking about is racism. I mean, literally tonight, because Mitt Romney gave a statement about health care in which he mentioned apartments, that is being --

HANNITY: How does that get put into the racist --

COULTER: It's almost as crazy as Lawrence O'Donnell saying a reference to Obama's golfing reminds people of Tiger Woods. And Tiger Woods is very popular, isn't he? But anyway, that was supposed to be racist. And it's like the whitest sport other than possibly polo, golfing is racist. Chicago is racist.

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