Gutfeld: Islamists don't need movie to hate America

Mobs attack Americans in Libya, Egypt


This is a rush transcript from "The Five," September 12, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: So, some media hacks really believe a video sparked the attacks on our embassies. They even want to try the filmmakers for murder. So, once again, their overarching concern is for causes of Muslim rage, rather than the rage, itself. But we know there's no justification for the ravages of savages, and to think a movie sparked the violence is irrelevant.

By the way, I hate the phrase "spark." If something sparked an assault, you would assume it would not happen on the solemn day that commemorates the most devastating tragedy sparked by Islamic extremists. If you believe that's a coincidence, I have a mosque downtown I'd like to sell you.

These media people are delusional. We are the spark. Our existence, our way of life is one long spark. They want to extinguish that spark.

We're reminded by our leaders to reject denigration of religion. But Christians are the butt of jokes by lazy comics and are killed in places where jokes don't suffice. So, we only respect the denigration of one religion because we're scared.

So, we need to start worrying about what sparks what and focus on what protecting our citizens from this prehistoric evil.

As Hillary Clinton said, these acts are confounding. True, it is confounding how unprotected our embassies are. What's not confounding are the attackers' motives. They hate us.

Saying violence is no way to honor to religion to extremists, you might as well say, a fish is no way to honor a bicycle. Evil only understands death.

This -- do you have -- does anybody believe for a minute that was not planned?


ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Could I throw something out here? Two o'clock in the morning, we found out the embassy was attacked with RPGs and we lost the ambassador. I went to YouTube to see this film, the 13:51 trailer of a film. It only had a few thousand views at the time. There would probably be more people attacking the embassy than actually viewed that film.

This was more than just a reaction to a film. This -- as you pointed out, Greg, they hate us. This is a way of life.

When the Giants win, there is a whole bunch of New Yorkers who go crazy when the Giants win. It felt like the same mob mentality, the same we hate them, let's get them, here's an opportunity to do that.

GUTFELD: Yes. Andrea, we have seen Theo Van Gogh was murdered for writing something that was anti-Islamic. The cartoonist who started to draw Muhammad had to go in hiding. We treat Muslim religion differently because we're terrified of them.

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Right. They'll use a cartoon, they'll use a video or they will use nothing. Don't forget the British embassy was attacked this summer. There wasn't anything that's supposedly that you said sparked that. They hate us.

And we sat around the table yesterday on 9/11 and we said they will continue to go after us and they will continue to kill us. That's why when we hear folks from the administration say there is no War on Terror, it's very, very upsetting. And the more we apologize, the worse it gets.

Greg, they don't care if we say we're sorry, they don't care if we stand up and say the First Amendment, they don't care. They don't respect our values and they will continue to kill us.

That's why it's very disappointing when you have the United States come out first and say, we're very sorry that you upset you, or we did something wrong That should not be the response.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Wait a minute. I was in Iran with the last congressional delegation we took there when Bakhtiar was the president, before he was ousted and Khomeini came back in the country.

We looked out the window from the Intercontinental Hotel and there were 200,000 screaming radical Muslims. It's a frightening thing. We got out of there as fast as we could.

And I will tell you, if I'm sitting in an embassy and I have 2,000 people who hate us, and they do, this release of this statement which is not cleared by the U.S. State Department, it was during the middle of this attack. I would release whatever you could possibly release to try to cool it down.

TANTAROS: Anything? OK.

BOLLING: But, Bob, the statement released prior to the mob uprising, prior to the killing. Statement was out --

BECKEL: We're talking about two different things.

BOLLING: I hear. Andrea, I don't want to speak for you, but President Obama has been apologizing for us and the treatment of Muslims since the first month or two in office. Remember the speech in Cairo in June? He apologized for our reaction to 9/11.

TANTAROS: Well, and quickly, his statement this morning at 7:22, led with, "We reject efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others." While true, it's not the leading message.

GUTFELD: Dana --

BECKEL: If the United States cannot say that we protect religions and religious freedom, what are we going to say?

TANTAROS: I didn't say it was wrong. I just didn't say it should be the main opening theme.


GUTFELD: Dana, how do you deal with this? It seems intractable. This movie, they might not even have ever seen it. It was diversionary tactic for terror.

PERINO: In the world of social media, I understand that corporations, government, individuals, they try to get out first with the information. It wasn't just so much that the State Department put out their statement but then they started tweeting to try to reconfirm that the first instinct was not to say get off of our property, first of all.


PERINO: And secondly, freedom of speech is something you fought for. We will help you get there, but not if you pull this kind of stuff.

If I were at the State Department right now I would tell all of my embassy people, if anything happens here, there is no social media. Because these first responses are always wrong, they've got them in a bunch of trouble.

We -- there is a lot of unanswered questions here, that they're going to have to start answering things they said earlier. For example, when the secretary of state says that the Libya attack was work of a million and savage group, not the government or people of Libya, I hope that's true.

If you get back to one part and coordination, somebody had to know where the ambassador was and somebody tipped them off and then maybe it is true that the Libyans tried to help him, to get him to the hospital. But there is a lot more here that meets the eye. They should have backed off for a minute.

BECKEL: One thing we do know this brigade that was put Obama in front of the same consulate six months ago and took credit for it. So, it's not surprising to me they have the intelligence and the ability to do that. And use this.

Maybe now somebody stirred up the crowds so they would get the diversion.

PERINO: Either paid or organized in a way they --

BECKEL: Organize a couple thousands.

BOLLING: On 9/11? On 9/11, c'mon!

BECKEL: Sure. I'm not -- I'm saying it was for 9/11. That's what I'm saying.

BOLLING: Clearly.

TANTAROS: You talk about they were fighting for free speech in Tahrir Square. But do we know if they were really fighting for that? Or were they fighting for jobs and higher food prices?

I don't think -- I didn't see Paul Revere in Tahrir Square. I don't think they were looking for a constitution. Look, we told Mubarak to go. And now we have the Muslim Brotherhood.

I don't hear a word from the Democrats celebrating that.

GUTFELD: To me, the most embarrassing thing out of this is the members of the media, whether it's MSNBC or even some people here on this network, who are exercising moral relativism, that somehow saying something that is a joke or a offensive about religion is the same as somebody being beheaded or murdered. That's idiotic. That to me that is disgusting, it is offensive as -- I don't know.

BECKEL: Let me just go on the record saying I am delighted that Mubarak is gone. He was a savage. He murdered hundreds of thousands of Egyptians.

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