'The Teavangelicals' and the 2012 presidential election

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," July 2, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

TUCKER CARLSON, GUEST HOST: The Tea Party Movement erupted on to the national scene in 2009, pushing for fiscal responsibility. Social issues were not on the mind of most Tea Partiers, but according to author David Brody in his new book "The Teavangelicals, The Inside Story of How Evangelicals and The Tea Party Are Taking America," the Tea Party has found a new partnership with the Evangelical movement.

Sean sat down recently with the author to discuss that collaboration.


SEAN HANNITY, HOST: Here's the man himself, David Brody. How are you? Good to see you. What's going on?

DAVID BRODY, "TEAVANGELICALS" AUTHOR: My pleasure to be here. Well, not much, a book, something about a book.

HANNITY: I know, "Teavangelicals." All right, so this a simple concept, Tea Party, people that support Tea Party concepts, limited government, right, getting a balanced budget, and Evangelicals. You said you didn't want to write this book. Why?

BRODY: Well, there are a couple of different reasons, but the main reason is, is that I just felt like, you know, what was the point until I actually saw what was going on.

In other words, I actually, saw something developing in 2010, and how could you not write the story? I mean, that's what ended up happening. I saw all of these Evangelicals showing up at the Tea Party rallies and there were prayers and everything going on. And I said, I got to do something about this because everybody was making this about a lunch of libertarians holding up signs and everything. I said, wait a minute, hold on for a second. They're a bunch of conservative Christians in this movement. As a matter of fact, 50 to 60 percent of this movement is conservative Christian, so I decided to come up with the name, and there it was "Teavangelicals."

HANNITY: How does this impacted the 2012 presidential race?

BRODY: Well, there are couple of different ways. Mitt Romney obviously needs the "Teavangelicals" in a big way to show up. You know, Ralph Reed's group, the "Faith and Freedom Coalition." I call them a "Teavangelicals" type of organization. They have Tea Party activists who are Evangelicals. They've got the cell phone numbers and emails of 13 million Evangelicals in this country right now. They didn't have that in 2008. John McCain didn't have that help. Mitt Romney has that help. If they can go ahead and get 3 million more Evangelicals to the polls, these "Teavangelical" type voters, it really could be game set match and Romney can send them all a thank you note.

HANNITY: Don't you think though -- I mean, where are they going to go? I mean, everybody sees the bad results of three and a half, four years of Obama. Wouldn't they want to support Romney? I mean, is there something he needs to specifically do to reach out to them?

BRODY: Yes, well, I can tell you. First of all, a good VP pick is a good start obviously.

HANNITY: Right. What's a good VP pick? Who?

BRODY: Well, there are folks within the Evangelical community who think -- now, this guy is more of a tier B guy -- Bobby Jindal might be a good pick. You know, there are folks who believe within the Evangelical community that Rob Portman actually isn't such a bad pick. I mean, a lot of people think bland, vanilla, but within the Evangelical community there's kind of a split on that.

HANNITY: What about Marco?

BRODY: Marco Rubio is also a pretty good pick for sure. But I think ultimately it comes down to the stump speech. How bad is Mitt Romney going to a degree court this "Teavangelical" audience? How does he do it?

He's got to take a play out of Rick Santorum's playbook, combine fiscal issues, social issues, the declaration of independence, weaving it all in to this Judeo-Christian nation that we have here. If he can really talk about that, I think he's able to get a lot more "Teavangelicals" to the polls.

HANNITY: When you look at issues involved, the contraceptive mandate, including morning-after pill, all of these social issues, and the president's position on defense of marriage act, the president's position recently on immigration, you add the debt to that, the bad economy to that. For any conservative, any Tea Party member, I just don't see who else they could possibly vote for in this election.

BRODY: Yes, but it not so much who they're going to vote for. For example, a lot of folks have voted for a Santorum or Gingrich. If they're not a big Romney fan, they'll still go to the polls and vote for Romney, but will they bring a friend and organize? The "Teavangelicals" are the worker bees out there, you know that.

HANNITY: This is like the old Christian coalition?

BRODY: Very much so, but it's morphed into a much different venue if you will. This is what we talk about in the book. And I got to tell you, you mention the contraceptive debate. I mean, a lot of what this is about too when it comes to these "Teavangelicals," you know, cutting Planned Parenthood funding, all of this. The fact that he can weave fiscal and social issues together --

HANNITY: We really aren't hearing a lot about the social issues, which I know you care about and you cover extensively. It seems that issues one, two and three are the economy. Four, five, six, have to do with national security. Does that bother you as a strong Evangelical that's pro-life and pro defense of marriage, does that bother you?

BRODY: Not at all. As a matter of fact, it doesn't bother millions, tens of millions of Evangelicals. I mean, if you look at some of these congressional scorecards put out by the Family Research Council, Concerned Women for America, down the list. I mean, you'll see that indeed it's not just about the life and the marriage issues. It's about a balanced budget amendment, about reducing taxes. Go down the list, it's not a problem at all.

HANNITY: A lot of people when Romney ran for governor, he said he was pro-choice, which he did say, then he says, but I didn't -- every time legislation came to his desk, he was right, he did go along with the pro-life position. So I think that showed his sincerity in his change of position. Do you agree with that?

BRODY: Absolutely, I agree with that. I say this in the book you that will see in 2006 he had a -- I don't know if you want to call a secret meeting, if you will, with Evangelical leaders as far as back in 2006 with the late Jerry Falwell, Franklin Graham, the whole list.

They were all in Ann and Mitt Romney's room in New Hampshire, eating sandwiches. At the end of that meeting, about a month later, they all got something in the mail from Mitt Romney. It was a chair. They all got a chair. On the back there was a plaque that said you will always have a seat at my table. Sent that to all the Evangelical leaders.

HANNITY: That was a great move.

BRODY: It was. Back in 2006.

HANNITY: But I'm sure he meant it. I don' t think it was symbolic.

BRODY: Absolutely. It's interesting, what's going on in front of the camera and --

HANNITY: I never got a chair. Did you ever get a chair?

BRODY: I never got a chair. I'm still waiting for a chair. I'm waiting for a plaque.

HANNITY: I'll take a cup of tea.

Great to see you again. Good luck with the book. Appreciate it.

BRODY: I appreciate it, sir.


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