THE FIVE

Two-term presidents a thing of the past?

Article blames political partisanship, media glare

 

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," June 20, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: So, The Washington Post -- a paper, not an actual post -- wonders if any president can win the second term these days. The paper cites pessimism, intense partisanship and web-crazed media.

Mark McKinnon plays along, saying -- quote -- "Due to the evolution of our politics and media, we may never see two-term president again."

Adds a Democrat, "In era of high definition politics, where every flaw is exposed, it is supremely challenging to effectively govern."

Further, adds Greg Gutfeld, "Barf."

So why are they writing this stuff now? I don't remember them pondering the pain of politics when they pummeled George Bush. No, the media is saying this now because they're scared. After all, President Obama is their fragile flower, a delicate snowflake bullied at school by an evil gang of Aryan fat cat, racist Republicans.

Never mind the dismal job numbers, the horrible economy, the glum mood of the uneasy nation, you're a bully if you bring it up. So, circle the wagons. Our hero's self-esteem at risk.

But does shielding someone from reality do them any favors? I mean, if you worry Obama can't handle bloggers, why do you think he'll do fine with Putin?

Who cares? For the media, Obama deserves nothing but gold stars and all of his refrigerator paintings. And to suggest otherwise would be like punching a kitten. Only Dana would do that, right before devouring it with her bare tiny hands.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: I loved getting gold starts on my chart. I loved it so much. I had all my chores and responsibilities and I would get different color --

GUTFELD: I don't think it affected you as an adult. Not at all, America's Lisa Simpson.

PERINO: Can I get one on my office door?

GUTFELD: What do you think? Is it harder these days, Andrea?

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: I think it's harder if you assume that the people are listening, if you assume that they are following every tiny little blog, which I do think that they're following every tiny little blog. I think it's a very Beltway mentality -- this is a Beltway writer and he's trying to probably cover for Obama.

But because if you look back historically, Whitewater, Watergate, these were scandals that took down the president long before the Internet and blogs.

GUTFELD: That's true. Bob, what do you think? Do you think that people -- the stuff comes in and goes out just as fast?

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Some of this stuff sticks and that's the problem with it. I mean, Obama has had the first -- I mean, he's had the fullest brunt of the Internet. Bush had the beginning of it. And it was, in both these cases, the thing that worries me is you start with information out on a blog -- we had experience with this last week -- and it becomes news. And that people take it as real news. And there is no filter there.

So, I don't think the president can do anything without having -- so, you're right. Most people don't read all of these blogs, but the question is, do they feed themselves into the rest of the media. And in that case, I think it's dangerous.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Very quickly, the upside is now, you have a lot more information about the guy you are about to elect or put into office --

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: You said information. Is that right, though?

BOLLING: Well, you have information -- basically in 2008, we took a guy that no one heard of the year before. We didn't know what the background was. We're finding out a lot now.

GUTFELD: I want to get to this next story because we only have 90 seconds.

Bill Maher, America's toilet scrubber, was on his blog the other day, he compared -- he called the Republican Party "the rise of the party of the apes."

Eric?

BOLLLING: Isn't that a good thing for guy on the left to say that? Don't they believe in Evolution? I'm creationist. Really? That is kind of an insult.

GUTFELD: Dana, try to stop thinking about your dog. Does it matter what he says?

PERINO: He has a stuffed ape that he plays with, Jasper.

Does it matter what Bill Maher says? Yes, I think so, especially because he crossed the line when he decided to be the super PAC guy, gave a million dollars to the campaign. I mean, he's decided to put himself in a political arena. So, I think it matters.

GUTFELD: Well, people say Bill Maher will hit on anything that moves, but they're wrong because there was an incident at the mortuary.

TANTAROS: By the way, you insulted toilet scrubbers earlier by saying he was America's toilet scrubber.

GUTFELD: I apologize.

Bob, what do you call a dog that eats its own vomit? Bill Maher impersonator.

BECKEL: That's good. Listen, I'm getting awfully tired of defending Bill Maher. I'm not going to defend him here. It's a terrible thing to say. But I think people are so used to him now, so accustomed saying these outrageous things.

TANTAROS: What if one of us had said it on the right?

(CROSSTALK)

PERINON: It would be unusual for us to be that crass.

BECKEL: On the left, you had one prominent radio commentators saying that idiot from "The Caller" was talking to Obama's white side.

GUTFELD: That was funny.

BECKEL: That to me is as racist a comment --

GUTFELD: No, it's not. It's a joke. I am on Bill Maher's side. I think HBO has selectively editing his show because if you notice, there are no funny jokes in it. They must be removing the jokes from his show.

Should I tell another joke, Dana? Or should I just let it go?

PERINO: Let's save them for another day, because we'll have an opportunity.

GUTFELD: They might get in trouble?

PERINO: Yes, a little bit.

GUTFELD: You want to hear one?

BECKEL: No.

BOLLING: Yes.

GUTFELD: No, we've got to go. We'll just save my job.

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