This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," June 8, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: When Governor Scott Walker was running for governor in Wisconsin, he promised the people of his state that if elected, he would rein in out-of-control spending that was in Madison. Now, on the very day he took the oath of office, he began to follow through on his pledge to solve the state's budget crisis, and he did so knowing full well the vicious backlash that he would face from unions and other left-wing forces in his state.
Now, you're not going to find that type of courageous leadership on the national stage these days but you will find it in my next guest, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker who we taped just a few moments earlier.
HANNITY: All right. You have had a little time now o digest all that has happened here. I want to go back, just prior to the recall election on Tuesday. Former President Bill Clinton went to Wisconsin, and as we are dealing with the issues of unions now. And he is claiming that you want to break every union. And that was the claim made by a lot of people. And this is the type of hyperbole, you know, propaganda that is often used. I want to get your reaction of what he said here, Governor.
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FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: All those people, all these money in Wisconsin. If you don't show up and vote, all of those will say, see, we got him now. We are finally going to break every union in America. We are going to break every government in America. We are going to stop worrying about the middle class. We don't give a rip whether poor people get to work their way into it. We got our way now. We got it all. Divide and conquer works. You tell them no.
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HANNITY: I mean, here's the message. You don't care, you want to break every union, you don't care about the poor, you don't care about the middle class. You know, now they you have a little time to digest this, I mean, does this anger you that this is pretty much the way they tried to position your desire to balance the budget?
GOV. SCOTT WALKER, R-WIS.: Well, that was just a week ago. And it's amazing because as usual, I think it's why I won, the truth is mightier than the attacks that we had. They attacked and attacked and attacked and things like the president said a week ago. And the facts counted them. Let me give you good example, comparison between Wisconsin and Illinois. Our reforms allowed us to balance our budget without raising taxes. In fact, we brought about property tax relief for the first time in 12 years on the median valued home. That allowed us to balance the budget without massive layoffs, without cuts in things like Medicaid, which does affect needy families, children and seniors.
And instead, you look at Illinois, where they didn't use our reforms. And what you saw were massive tax increases on individuals, massive tax increases on businesses. You now have a governor down there talking about closing 14 state facilities and laying off thousands of public employees and the governor's going to cut more than $1 billion out of Medicaid. The facts don't match with the rhetoric. And the most outrageous part of that is the claim that somehow the president and his allies were defending the middle class, it's the middle class taxpayers that get stuck paying the bill all the time.
HANNITY: You know, but one of the things that infuriates me about unions in particular, they take hard-working, rank-and-file money. And then, you know, most of that money we know is funneled to the Democratic Party and then there is a sort of like kickback system, where they are not challenged. And meanwhile, you inherit a deficit of $3.6 billion. So, my question is, do you think people have caught up to the fact that unions are really looking out for their members. They are looking out for the quid pro quo system that has existed for a long period of time. Do you think your election showed that, I mean, exposed that?
WALKER: Yes. Well, I think it's even more egregious than that, I think they are looking out for their leadership. I think that's why it really boils down to, I think that's why in my state, even many of the union households with private-sector unions supported me in the election because they're hard-working taxpayers as well. And what they saw was the public sector employees for years were paying nothing close to what the private sector employees -- union or nonunion are paying, and it was a fundamental issue of fairness.
HANNITY: Yes. All right. Let me --
WALKER: My opponent -- talked about defending the middle class, they were talking about defending the big government union bosses. And we finally stood up and took them on.
HANNITY: You know, it's funny. Because when Paul Ryan tries to, you know, rein in with entitlement spending because Medicare is going bankrupt, Social Security is going bankrupt. The country's got $16 trillion in debt. You know, you got an ad, we're throwing granny right over the cliff. And the president himself saying, Republicans want dirty air and water.
Let me just run, the impact of all of this, because I think the hyperbole, the propaganda, the misinformation is not working like it once did. Because these are the quintessential, predictable talking points we're getting every election. There was an ad that came out the day after the election this week. And liberals in their own words saying how important it is, now they are trying to downplay. But let me play this ad for you.
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GRAPHIC: Do you recall?
RACHEL MADDOW, MSNBC: This race in Wisconsin is the most important race in the country before the presidential election.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: The front line of taking back Wisconsin.
GRAPHIC: They called it "the most important."
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: We will recall and replace Scott Walker.
MICHAEL MOORE, FILMMAKER: You are soon to be ex-governor.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Where do I sign?
MADDOW: And that will affect every race in every partisan election on every ballot from the race for dog catcher on up to the race for president.
GRAPHIC: They called it history.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: And all of these bully governors across the country -- knuckle up! Knuckle up! We are in it to win it.
(crowd) Recall Walker!
MADDOW: This race in Wisconsin is the most important race in the country.
GRAPHIC: Well, they lost.
ED RENDELL, FORMER PA. GOVERNOR: We made a mistake doing that.
CHUCK TODD, NBC: Do the results tell us something about November?
GRAPHIC: And they're denying its importance.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: No, I don't think so. This is a gubernatorial race with a guy who was recalled. It has nothing to do with President Barack Obama at the top of the ticket.
JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Probably won't tell us much about a future race.
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HANNITY: You know, that ad's pretty effective. Because, you know, who's right? Were they right before the election or they're right down playing after the election, now that they lost?
WALKER: Well, they changed it. The amazing thing, Sean, as you know, because you watch this very closely, have you had me on your TV and radio show many times before to talk about this. This was one of the most substantive elections we have ever had in Wisconsin. Probably one of the most substantive elections in the entire country. It wasn't personality based, it wasn't based on personal digs. It was based on two fundamentally different views of what government should be and more than anything, it was about who is in charge, is it a handful of big government union bosses at the state of local level, hard-working taxpayers. And it clearly was about, just as I think it should be about the national level, what defines success in government. Is it getting more people in government assistance particularly unemployment, or is it getting more people off of government assistance? Particularly getting them off unemployment not by kicking them off but by opening up the private sector so that more people can create and fill jobs and control their own destiny and their own freedoms.
HANNITY: All right. Governor, thank you so much for being with us. It's been a great week for you. And thank you so much for being here.
WALKER: Thank you, Sean.
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