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Will there be a Wisconsin recall recount?

Wisconsin's attorney general is keeping a close eye on potential voter fraud in the recall election


This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," June 4, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: What about the other "R" word, "recount"? If the race is close is that in the cards? And Attorney General Holder dispatched Justice Department officials to Wisconsin to make sure the recall election goes without a hitch. Is the Wisconsin attorney general worried about the voter problems? Joining us Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen. Nice to see you.


VAN SUSTEREN: I guess it's sort of routine that the federal government, that the Justice Department would send people here to look at the election and watch the election, right?

VAN HOLLEN: I think it's routine that the federal government sends election officials out. It's also routing that my office sends people out. And I think we do it for two very different reasons. They are out to enforce voter rights act, to make sure people have interpreters if they need to at the polls, and there isn't discrimination on race or gender or the inability to speak English. We send people out to make sure they abide by the law. We've got a very heated campaign.

VAN SUSTEREN: You do? I didn't realize that.

VAN HOLLEN: It wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't electioneering going on and we get poll creep and people get a little too close to the polls that they're campaigning. And we don't want to dissuade voters turning out the vote. The turn-out can be huge. We'll get the true message from the voters.

VAN SUSTEREN: How many people do you have sent out to watch polls?

VAN HOLLEN: Combined with the law enforcement in total there are probably 100 out there. Out of Department of Justice we sent 17 teams.

VAN SUSTEREN: How many on a team?

VAN HOLLEN: Two, a prosecutor and special agent.

VAN SUSTEREN: Are you working with the Justice Department, or is it they send theirs from Washington or two different satellites?

VAN HOLLEN: Two different satellites. Again, two different causes. We work with the local law enforcement agencies. We are working with the district attorney and police department to make sure we have teams out there with them to coordinated effort.

VAN SUSTEREN: From the outside, I suspect there is the appearance of some people is that you are a Republican. Eric Holder, the attorney general, I assume he is a Democrat. He has been nominated by a democratic president and this is dueling, the Republicans and the Democrats watching the polls.

VAN HOLLEN: We have seen it for years. We have people out in Democratic and Republican parties watching the polls. It's a professional, legal capacity. They have a job to do. We have a job to do to make sure we have integrity in the election process in Wisconsin, we don't have the voter fraud or people instructing the polling places. We give the good legal advice to poll worker. I want agents in the field so if something goes wrong we can go to the courthouse to clarify things. The next day is too late if we have problems with election integrity.

VAN SUSTEREN: Are you hearing anything?

VAN HOLLEN: I'm not.

VAN SUSTEREN: That is a good sign.

VAN HOLLEN: We have been working on this for a lot of elections.

VAN SUSTEREN: A lot in 14 months, experience.

VAN HOLLEN: We have had tremendous success making sure the polls run smoother all the time. We provided more training and people on the scene.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you have to have a picture I.D. in the state?

VAN HOLLEN: Not now.

VAN SUSTEREN: A little controversy.

VAN HOLLEN: That is a whole different story, absolutely. If we had photo I.D. requirement in the state which we had a few elections ago, put on hold by the courts, I think it reduces opportunity for potential voter fraud considerably. We don't have that. It means we have to be more vigilant.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is there a history of voter fraud in state?

VAN HOLLEN: There is. My office combined with the district attorney's office in Milwaukee County alone during 2008 election had 20 cases we prosecuted.

VAN SUSTEREN: It's sloppy and people are just stupid about the rules, or is it real fraud they try to undermine the integrity of election?

VAN HOLLEN: It's real stuff, people voting twice. Wisconsin voting laws are liberal with a small "l," so it's easy to commit fraud if you want to. You don't see prosecution or investigation level that is going to come to the level of fraud that exists. So when you actually have some cases of fraud you catch being perpetrated, you know there is a multiplier effect and more we haven't caught.

VAN SUSTEREN: It's going to be a fascinating election, isn't it?

VAN HOLLEN: I look forward to it. I look forward to being back over here tomorrow night to watch it closely.

VAN SUSTEREN: What do you do Election Day? Check out the polls themselves? I assume you vote.

VAN HOLLEN: I'll be at the polls voting. Media interviews I think you might expect with regard to this issue and others in general. But I think Governor Walker has done a tremendous job for state of Wisconsin. So I'll watch with some anxiety myself to see what the results are. I think he has taken the state, he taken the public safety I'm concerned about in a positive direction. And I look forward to hopefully having two-and-a-half more years to work him.

VAN SUSTEREN: Thank you, sir. I hope you have a good day tomorrow and there is no fraud.