Date night for Congress

Proximity isn't the problem


This is a rush transcript from "The Five," January 23, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: So, Tuesday's State of the Union Address, some Dems and Republicans will sit together, something started last year in the wake of the Gabby Giffords' shooting. It's been lauded by the group No Labels who claims sitting together means they might work together. Yes, a few hours of bench-sharing makes everything peachy.

And so, once again, the media and the politicians mistake something meaningless for something productive.

Look, I sit here with Bob every single day. Do you think that changes anything? Both of us are in therapy.

But the real problem with date night is it's weird linkage to Tucson, suggesting instability led to the shooting. No. Insanity did.

More important, the real message here is that you only need reconciliation when the right is angry. But if the left is mad, ah, that's OK. Even though righties aren't taking over parks or fighting cops or vandalizing property. But I guess that's what you can get away with when reporters covering an event share a moldy tent with you.

Finally, who wants politicians to get along? If anything, the less they like each other, the harder is it to spend our money. The next time, make your date night on your own time. I suggest "Dolphin Tale" in 3D.

But please, no necking. It's family film.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: I like that movie, by the way.

GUTFELD: Did you really?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, I think that Harry Connick, Jr. is just so charming.

GUTFELD: He certainly is.

GUILFOYLE: He could make a great candidate.

GUTFELD: But we can save that conversation for later, Kimberly.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, sure.

GUTFELD: Let's hold it together.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: I'm wondering, when has the right not been angry?

GUTFELD: No. But see, this is the point. This is -- whenever the right is angry, when they're the angry, they're the angry white male.

BECKEL: They are always angry.

GUTFELD: But when the left are angry, it's social justice.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: I love being a cheerful conservative because it makes --

BECKEL: Yes, that's nice. But you're not a righty. Eric can be cheerful. I mean, you're cheerful on occasion.

PERINO: Conservatives are usually more cheerful.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: If I did date night, I want Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I want to sit next to her.


BECKEL: Listen in on that one.

PERINO: Imagine all of the directors tonight as they're preparing for tomorrow night's coverage, like OK, who is sitting together and like, say that would be a good shot. That would be a good shot. Make sure if Harry Reid rolls his eyes at so-and-so --

BECKEL: You know, one of the problems with all of this is they are right about the polarization in Congress. But, you know, there are a lot of members of Congress, Democrats and Republicans, they get together on pieces for bills, they put them in the hopper, they really have a legitimate interest in doing it. Rubio from Florida with Coons of Delaware, the bill on jobs and yet, who kills it? The leadership of both sides. That's the problem.

I mean, it's Harry Reid and McConnell, they want this division and they don't see any political advantage of being out of the polarization mode, where I think frankly, if politicians will actually try to get along and try to find some bipartisanship, it might be good politics.

PERINO: I actually think that's not true when it comes to, for example, though, Ryan/Wyden healthcare reform plan because I think Speaker Boehner would definitely go for it. Mitch McConnell would go for it. It's actually the Senate leadership, the Senate Democratic leadership that doesn't like it. So, that's just one example of the Democrat side.

GUTFELD: What are you laughing about?

BOLLING: It shouldn't be Debbie Wasserman Schultz. It should be Allen West with Wasserman Schultz.

GUILFOYLE: Those two cannot stand each other.

PERINO: That would be fun.

GUILFOYLE: I don't know, they don't get along.

GUTFELD: They both have great hair.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, if you're in the frizzle thing. Anyway, I gave up firms a long time ago.

GUTFELD: Who would you sit next to?

GUILFOYLE: Well, you know, I like Paul Ryan. But he has to sit on the other side.

PERINO: I met Senator Scott Brown today. I'd sit next to him.

GUTFELD: Yes. You would literally come up to his ankle.

PERINO: Maybe I had high heels on. It didn't feel that short.

GUILFOYLE: So, you think this is like forced speed dating. It's very awkward and unnatural. Nobody is having a good time. You can't wait for it to end.

BOLLING: Who is in favor of this? Whose idea is this?

GUILFOYLE: Bob, whose idea?

BECKEL: There's a lot of -- this happened because this group had a lot of people e-mail members of Congress and they decided that was something they need to pay attention to. But in the end, there's a real story here and that is that there is massive polarization between the parties in the Congress of the United States, which is why I think the rating is low on both sides.

GUTFELD: I love polarization.

BECKEL: Because you're kind of a polarizing kind of guy, with wine or without. So, if you decide to run, I'd like to see this stark difference myself in the polls. I'd like to see your right wing agenda versus Obama's agenda. And I think you represent about 25 percent, 30 percent of the country. And that's why you'll get killed. Unless you find some reasonable middle ground.

GUTFELD: Can we do a quick bet, though? State of the Union Address tomorrow, how many time will "fair share" or "fairness" come up?

BOLLING: Not enough.

GUTFELD: Code word for class warfare.

BOLLING: I would say, it's probably 45 minutes to an hour, six.

PERINO: Eighteen.

GUTFELD: Eighteen.

BOLLING: Eighteen?


BECKEL: As many as he possibly could because the point is exactly right. The Republicans have favored wealthy people over the --

PERINO: You realize the most interesting thing about tomorrow night's speech is going to be date night.


GUILFOYLE: But, look, this is date night here, is it not? Bob and Eric next to each other. It's weird.

PERINO: This is your dream come true.

GUTFELD: Every night is date night.

BECKEL: Well, yes. Clearly.

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