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Hatch: Pres. Obama 'Doesn't Know What He's Doing ... Thinks We Should Be Like Europe'

Sen. Orrin Hatch sounds off on White House-stimulus loan scandal, president's jobs plan


This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," September 21, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Well, here's the quote, "The White House has no clue." Who says that? Senator Orrin Hatch.

Just a short time ago, Senator Hatch went "On the Record."


VAN SUSTEREN: Senator, nice to see you, sir.

SEN. ORRIN HATCH, R-UTAH: Nice to see you.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. We have horrible jobs problem, I don't need to tell you that. But the president has a proposal. What do you think about his proposal and how he wants to fund it?

HATCH: Well, it's long on taxes. It makes taxes permanent, everything else is short term. That's not the way to do it.

And not only, you know, we were just props in that joint session, so he could make what really was a very political speech that even Democrats aren't going to support. You know, I've been surprised how many Democrats are against what he's talking about in that approximately $450 billion basically a tax bill. It is pathetic.

VAN SUSTEREN: Why would he introduce if he knows that -- number one, everyone says it is dead on arrival here, but two, if he knows Democrats aren't going to support it? What was the point?

ORRIN: Well, it's the same old, same old thing -- is to make political points rather than really lead in an economic sort of way. I've made this point over and over, that is that there's not a person in the White House who's had much to do with creating private sector jobs. And if you look at even the reason addition to the council of economic advisers, a Princeton professor, not a lot of experience in the private sector.

They are great at academics. They are great they are brilliant people they have no clue on who makes jobs. And they think the government is the one that makes jobs. Anybody who believes that is nuts.

VAN SUSTEREN: Solyndra -- what do you think about that crisis?

HATCH: It's a disgrace, really. I mean, you know, the president and his allies have gotten so caught up in green matters. I can understand that. I think with it would be good for us to move more and more into alternative energy and so forth. But to put $535 million into a program that has a poor business plan. It would be far better for them to go out and raise money in the private marketplace and that would have made them -- given them a chance to win.

It's pretty well concluded now that this isn't because of China. This isn't because of foreign competition. This is a bad business plan.

Not only that, but there are some 35 states who didn't get as much money for their roads, highways and bridges, as Solyndra got that is now down the drain because they are now in bankruptcy.

I mean, it's really pathetic. And that's what is wrong with going too far overboard on some of their approaches. And there may be some serious charges brought out of that in the end.

I hope not. I think there was a sincerity about it. But it is stupid. And it is again done by people who don't know what they are doing. Who literally haven't worked in the private sector and who didn't do their business run down, and who basically shouldn't be running our country -- I'll put it that way.

VAN SUSTEREN: You've introduced a bill having to do with the United Nations. And, right now, the Palestinians are attempting to of the U.N. recognize them as a state. What is your bill and why did you introduce it?

HATCH: Well, I'm sick and tired of the U.N. doing these crazy things. And, of course, the Palestinians want to be declared a state so they can bring charges against Israel and embarrass Israel all over the world.

VAN SUSTEREN: In the International Criminal Court?

HATCH: Right. And Israel, of course, is the only democracy in the sea 300 million Arabs. And I really will support the moderate Arab people who really want peace and want to do what's right.

But to now do this, this is just a gimmick to put more pressure on Israel. Frankly, I think the United States ought to send the message, if you going to keep pulling this kind of stuff, we're going to pull out of the -- we are going to pull our money back from the U.N. until you wise up and wake up.

And, frankly, that's what bill does. It would actually make it so that we are not going to keep supporting the U.N. the way we have financially.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. I see that you have, I think, about 13 co- sponsors, people who have signed into it.

HATCH: I think we'll have more than that.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is it likely to pass? Have you done sort of headcount to see what impact it would have?

HATCH: Well, we haven't done a head count because we just filed it today. But the fact o the matter is, I think it would have a chance of passage. I didn't -- I don't know what the Democrats will do. I doubt that they even allow to be brought up in the Senate. That's the problem. They control the Senate with 53 Democrats.

And, frankly, we don't get anything up that might cause them any problems at the polls. But I don't see why any Democrat worth his or her salt wouldn't be willing to stand up and say this is wrong to keep picking on Israel. And it's wrong to change this status of the Palestinians, just for political purposes or just to embarrass Israel.

VAN SUSTEREN: How do you think the president has handled this?

HATCH: Well, I heard his speech today. I didn't get to hear it. But I heard it was pretty weak.

Look, I like the president personally. There's nothing personal in my remarks. But he doesn't what he's doing. He's never worked in the private sector.

He doesn't know what he's doing. He's never worked in the private sector. I believe that he thinks we should be like Europe. My gosh! Who in their right mind would want to do that?

And I really question whether he believes that this is the greatest nation in the world.

VAN SUSTEREN: Senator, thank you sir. Nice to see you.

HATCH: Good to see you.