THE FIVE

Liberal Academics vs. Tea Party

Activists labeled devout, racists

 

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," September 6, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: At the American Political Science Association Conference or stupid long title for short, some professors presented papers suggesting that Tea Partiers are loveable, misunderstood bumpkins -- not really, they painted them as racists, religious creeps, which is no surprise that that was the professors' initial assumption and they simply fashion the questionnaire to bolster their own biases.

And herein lies one difference between the Tea Party and academics -- tenure. The Tea Party is nuts, overtime they will found out. Not so with academics, they can publish all kinds of bitter bias dribble, including thinly veiled attacks on people they hate because they are immune to actual competition. Without tenure, they'd be living under overpasses.

But why do they public this (INAUDIBLE) to begin with? Well, according to its critics, the Tea Party is a small percentage of voters.

Yet, its haters include, unions, the media, the Dems and now, academia. Those factions are not united by race, but by ideology. And some, the hatred for the Tea Party is really just here -- a movement representing the principle of limited government poses a legitimate threat to those who embrace self-interest and entitlement.

No wonder Bob is sweating.

(LAUGHTER)

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Ooh, I'm scared to death.

You know, let me just say this in the defense of political scientists who I don't agree with. But they did not call them racists. They said they were racially intolerant. And there's a big difference. Of course, (INAUDIBLE) an awful lot, but a lot of groups.

GUTFELD: Right.

BECKEL: And racial intolerance means when they ask them, could blacks do more to help themselves? There was the majority of Tea Party people polled said, yes, they could. Now, I don't see anything wrong with that.

Look, I've met a lot of Tea Party people. They are perfectly fine people. They have a nice people, they are nice to me which is --

GUTFELD: Which is hard to believe.

BECKEL: But let's also try to keep in mind here. I got a little upset this morning, as you all know in our meeting, because let me up a board. Let me explain to you what this Tea Party is.

How many people in this country relate to the Tea Party? If you look at, we bring it up and you'll see it is my segment and obviously I'm not getting my board up.

OK. But if you identify with the Tea Party, 22 percent; no, 73 percent. Now, let me add to that. That's one in five people in America.

That's a minority of a minority.

Secondly, their negatives are three to one over their positive.

GUTFELD: Why does it upset you so much -- so much of your friends, Bob?

BECKEL: Here's why. Because they have in their own way -- now I give them credit for this -- they have intimidated and captured the Republican Party. The Republican Party has now become the party of the Tea Party.

And here's one thing that Barack Obama needs. He needs somebody to emerge as the Republican nominee who is labeled a Tea Party candidate. If he gets that, he'll beat them in a walk -- which is, by the way, Mitt Romney is both on the one hand tried to be nice to them in the primaries and backed off from them. He wants Perry to be labeled as Tea Party person.

If you labeled as a Tea Party person, you are dead.

ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: Bob, a poll out today in The Washington Post -- not exactly a conservative publication -- says that 56 percent of Americans want smaller government.

BECKEL: That's only one --

TANTAROS: That is the main tenet of the Tea Party.

BECKEL: No, it is not. It is not.

TANTAROS: Oh, come on.

(CROSSTALK)

BECKEL: It is not. It is not.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: There was a question, I think it was The Washington Post poll, that in terms do you want bigger or smaller government. That's why I think they're having a hard time nailing down exactly what a Tea Party person because I recognize that Democrats will try to label any Republican as Tea Party person.

But when you start peeling back the layers and take off the labels and you look at no labels, but you start realizing, OK, wait, there's some common ground here and principles that unite them, that are actually -- they're not racial tinged.

BECKEL: There are some common grounds, small government front. But listen

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: -- Tea Parties, Bob. How do you explain that?

BECKEL: Excuse me. These people believe in the original interpretation of the Constitution and it ought to be frozen where it was.

The fact is the original Constitution allowed racism in this country, did not allow women to vote.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: I don't want --

BECKEL: Hang on a second. These are the people. That's what they say.

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: Can I just point out that that is not? It's simply "Taxed Enough Already," T-E-A, that's it. They want smaller government. They want lower taxes, end of story. There's no race involved. No social ideology involved.

BECKEL: I would ask you please to read some of their literature.

BOLLING: Oh, come on.

TANTAROS: Bob, come on.

GUTFELD: I got to move on.

BECKEL: Why are saying come on?

GUTFELD: That's one other thing that we keep trying to talk about we never get to. Starbucks CEO is holding a town hall tonight because apparently, you know, he is ticked off because there's no compromise happening amongst our politicians. His name is Howard Schultz. I think he is venting crybaby.

BOLLING: That's the biggest?

GUTFELD: That's the biggest.

Andrea, do you think this is going to help?

TANTAROS: I think it's a really risky move. I mean, when in the history of business have you ever seen a CEO address his customers and take a political stance? And the most political stance he took was the letter that he sent out last week, two persons. I got one, to his customers, talking about until we actually get a meaningful deal.

So, he actually trash talked the debt deal that they had in Washington. I think it's risky move. He should just focus on his Starbucks and do what he does best and keep his nose out of the politics.

GUTFELD: Clean the restrooms.

TANTAROS: Clean the restrooms.

PERINO: Make sure that customer service is uniform across Starbucks.

That would be good.

I kind of admire him because there's been a dearth of corporate leadership, of people standing up saying we want to do something. I think it's a little bit odd when you are not exactly, again it's no label.

BECKEL: You know, I don't think it frankly matters all that much.

It's a nice tray on his part, but when you say corporations, don't -- corporations are notorious for intimidating their workers to vote Republican.

PERINO: Oooh!

TANTAROS: Oh my gosh!

BECKEL: It's like preachers will do the same thing with Democrats.

BOLLING: I think he misspoke.

GUTFELD: What did I say?

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: -- say larger than venting now.

GUTFELD: Is it the largest?

All right. I got to move on. By the way, the event called Upward Spiral.

BOLLING: Do you have a phone number?

GUTFELD: No. I do have a Web site. But you know what? I'm not going to give it out because I don't care.

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