This is a rush transcript from "The Five," September 1, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: So in George Clooney's new movie "The Ides of March" he plays an idealistic presidential candidate. And get this -- he is pro-life, tough on crime, and hates the capital gains tax. Just kidding. He hates the death penalty and wants to ditch internal combustion engines. But it's Hollywood where the word idealistic is code for not an evil Republican.
I love Clooney ever since he played Bobby Hopkins on "Facts of Life." But two things split my Speedo. In an interview he said he would never run for president because, "There is a guy in office right now who is smarter than almost anyone you know, who is nicer, and who has more compassion than almost anyone you know. and he is having an almost impossible time governing" -- meaning, oh, he's just too good for us jerks.
You know George would agree with Woody Allen that for Obama to really succeed he should be a dictator, overriding the will of this nation of idiots. Worse, Clooney also said he shelved the cynical movie in 2009 due to the post-election optimism of 2008, meaning, he altered the course of his art to help a politician. To me that stinks of propaganda by subtractions, burying content to make things rosier than they really are. My dog often did the same thing in my back yard.
Andrea, would there ever be likable conservative president in the movies?
ANDREA TANTAROS, CO-HOST: No.
GUTFELD: Not in our lifetime.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: We could get Beckel's brother to play one.
BECKEL: He is not likable. He's my brother. He ain't heavy. Yes, he is.
Let me talk for the business side of the table, centered right here in the middle. Clooney made a decision not to comes out with a movie whose message is out of line with where the country is. Would you hold back the movie until things change?
GUTFELD: That is one way to look at it, he didn't want to damper the optimism. I think -- he would haven't done it for a Republican. Let's face it. Would he?
BECKEL: I wouldn't either. That is not the point.
GUTFELD: You're a hypocrite.
BECKEL: He would lose money on that picture. That doesn't make sense.
TANTAROS: Barack Obama, if his campaign is based on the positive thinking why wouldn't he want a movie out there positive?
BECKEL: Who said it's based on positive thinking?
TANTAROS: He did. Idealistic --
BOLLING: That was 2008.
GUTFELD: Clooney doesn't care about making money.
ERIC BOLLING< CO-HOST: I think Graham Beckel would make a very good president.
PERINO: I think we're learning about this now because George Clooney is upset his ex-girlfriend is getting all of this attention for being contestant with "Dancing with the Stars."
GUTFELD: You're talking about Nancy Grace, right?
TANTAROS: They asked George Clooney if he would run for president and you know what he said? I have really good job. I get to hang out with seductive people. That's what I say when people ask me if I am running for president.
BECKEL: Greg, what was the other thing that would split your Speedo?
TANTAROS: Does that mean you are wearing a thong?
BECKEL: Did he go out with Nancy Grace?
GUTFELD: I want to talk about Warren Buffett. You know how he wrote the op-ed in the New York Times saying that the superrich are not paying enough taxes? Well, he has been in a decade-long struggle with the IRS. He owes up to -- may owe up to $1 billion in back taxes. It couldn't happen to a nicer billionaire.
BOLLING: And it's not that he is trying to hide the fact. He owes $1 billion. They are reporting it but they are fighting it vigorously on one hand and the other hand saying we need to be taxed more. It's very hypocritical on this, very.
PERINO: But he is also in the op-ed, said we should be taxed more he talked about the rich individuals. He is talking about this at the end of, toward the end of his life. He is 81 years old. He is not talking about the money he made in the past. If he wants we could have that discussion and talk about income he made in the past. He is talking about going forward.
And there is a slight difference about the individual taxes we should have a conversation about and protect, take advantage of the tax code when --
BECKEL: That is exactly the point. When you read that thing, here is the problem. He did not -- it's not his tax bill. One of several hundred companies that he owes are fighting Internal Revenue Service. Those of us who -- there are hundreds of thousands people fighting the IRS. We have all lose, because the bastards can run anything they want and take it away from you. But at least there is a tax court.
BOLLING: He tried to take advantage of all the loopholes on one hand.
He is the biggest investor of Berkshire Hathaway, by the way. He sees his personal money as well. Then on the other hand, tax people more because we don't have enough income coming in. Then don't fight it and pay 35 cents off the dollar.
BECKEL: Why should he pay IRS anything he doesn't owe?
TANTAROS: He does owe the money.
BECKEL: No, he doesn't.
TANTAROS: His people said we'll pay it back in the next year. What are they doing with the money?
BECKEL: You know what the totalitarianism is of the IRS, they say you owe it even if you don't owe it.
TANTAROS: Now bob doesn't want to collect revenue from rich people.
GUTFELD: You know who could help us? The tax master.
PERINO: You could call him.
BECKEL: I always wonder about hiring that guy. He always looks sideways when he does the ads. Like this.
PERINO: He has a good side.
BECKEL: Like me. No, he doesn't have a good side. He has a less fat side.
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