THE FIVE

Colin Powell Takes Aim at Cheney 'Cheap Shots'

Former Bush officials in war of words

 

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," August 29, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: All right. Kim -- Kim, the producers just told me I got to carry on and you're all wrong.

Anyway, let me just get out of this. Colin Powell is not too pleased with some comments Dick Cheney made in his new book.

And on "Face the Nation" yesterday, the former secretary of state addressed them. Listen to this.

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COLIN POWELL, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: Mr. Cheney has had a long and distinguished career. And I hope in his book, that's what he will focus on, not these cheap shots that he is taking at me and other members of the administration.

There is nothing wrong with saying you disagree, but it's not necessary to take these kind of barbs and then try to pump a book out by saying heads will be exploding.

I think Dick overshot the runway with that kind of comment and if that's how he plans to sell his book.

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BECKEL: General, I think Dick overshot the runway about 50 years ago.

But, look, the take a shot first of all at Colin Powell, one of America's great heroes who Dick Cheney gave lousy intelligence to, that he, Colin Powell, took to the U.N. and they said that all weapons of mass destruction and Colin Powell was lied to by Cheney and his people.

And now, listen to this. Here is Dick Cheney taking a shot at Colin Powell. Colin Powell was in Vietnam. He's a great -- he served his country. And where was Dick Cheney? He was getting out of the draft because he had graduate school degree exemptions. Give me a break.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Wow, that's the shot you're going to take right now? Look, let me defend Dana's former boss here for a second -- 9/11/01 happens. Not since then until the end of his term was there one attempt -- not even an attempt on a terrorist attack on American soil. They kept the place safe. Whether you like him or not, or what the weapons of mass destruction information they have, whether they acted on it or not, the place was safe for nine years. And then, things started to roll.

BECKEL: For 50 years before that, there was only one. How is that? There was one.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: All right. Wait --

BOLLING: I was in the building in '93 when that --

(CROSSTALK)

BECKEL: And that was the one. The other was American made, by McVeigh. Where was the other one?

PERINO: I just want to go back to General Powell for a second, please. I think that it's kind of interesting how Vice President Cheney makes people's heads explode, OK. He says I'll explode head and he has been people's pinata for about eight years.

But one of the charges I think is interesting is the piece about Richard Armitage and the leaking of the Valerie Plame name. And I think that piece and the General Powell question of what did he know and when did he know it, and he left people twisting in the wind and didn't tell President Bush that he knew, that is a problem.

You might disagree with Vice President Cheney's characterizations if you are General Powell or Secretary Rice, or whoever else, but I don't think they're not cheap shots if he is just responding with his point of view.

BECKEL: What if you disagree with the intelligence that Cheney cherry-picked with the boys to get us in a war with Iraq? That's despicable. This man and what he did to Colin Powell and the stuff he provided him at the U.N. was disgraceful.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: And he has been able to have his say then when he crossed party lines and went ahead and endorsed President Barack Obama and disavowing everything that he was associated with in the Bush administration. And now he will disassociate from Obama.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: I will agree with Powell. I think that conflicts in books sell. This feud helps the book. In my next book I have a chapter of you and I running off to Vermont to get married and then you break up with me just to sell books.

GUILFOYLE: Tragic.

(CROSSTALK)

BECKEL: Did you have to tell everybody that, Greg, on national television?

(LAUGHTER)

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