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Beck on Jimmy Carter Slamming Fox News

This is a RUSH transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," November 22, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

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BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "At Your Beck and Call" segment tonight: Because it is Thanksgiving week, we are bringing in the Beckmeister a bit early to comment upon this:

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FORMER PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER: The talk shows with Glenn Beck and others on Fox News, I think, have deliberately distorted the news and it's become highly competitive. And I have, my Republican friends say that MSNBC might be just as biased on the other side in supporting the Democratic Party, the liberal element.

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O'REILLY: Here now, the author of the big best-seller "Broke," and a guy who will not be going camping with President Carter any time soon, Glenn Beck.

GLENN BECK, FOX NEWS HOST: He likes me. He really likes me. Let me ask -- let me ask you this. I mean, really, he has Republican friends?

O'REILLY: Look, this is what I don't get. This is not the first time that Carter has invoked your name. He never mentions my name because you're a much bigger star.

BECK: You're Voldemort.

O'REILLY: I'm small. You're big.

BECK: No, you're Voldemort. You're the one that shall not be mentioned.

O'REILLY: Right. But it's not the first time that he's done this, all right, that intentionally distort the news. What is he talking about? Do you know?

BECK: No, I have no idea what he's talking about. I mean, look, Bill, have you ever made mistakes on the air?

O'REILLY: Yes.

BECK: You correct them?

O'REILLY: Shirley Sherrod.

BECK: Yes.

O'REILLY: I made a mistake. In fact, it's interesting. I mentioned this earlier.

BECK: You didn't make the mistake.

O'REILLY: No, I made the mistake. I didn't check it out.

BECK: I know that. But so did the White House.

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O'REILLY: Don't point to other bad behavior to excuse your own. I didn't use the Mrs. Bush sound bite on Sarah Palin tonight…

BECK: Yes.

O'REILLY: …because I don't know what context that's in. I learned my lesson on Shirley Sherrod. You made a couple of mistakes. Van Jones, you said he was a convicted felon. But you corrected it?

BECK: As soon as we found out, I corrected it.

O'REILLY: Right.

BECK: He's not -- he went to jail but he wasn't a convicted felon. But I also -- I love this. I also corrected this one on Van Jones. You know, I called him a "czar." No, I was corrected by the White House. He's a special adviser of green jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Policy, definitely not a czar. They didn't ask me to correct that he wasn't a communist, but this…

O'REILLY: OK. Let's get back to Carter.

BECK: Yes.

O'REILLY: So this isn't the first time we have heard this. This isn't the first time he's mentioned your name. What is it that he's trying to accomplish?

BECK: I think there's -- I mean, I don't think he is an isolated incident here. They are going for -- on the Internet, they are going for net neutrality through the FCC. They are bypassing Congress and going -- trying to regulate the Internet. What was it, next week, I think they are trying to do that.

O'REILLY: Wait. I don't understand this. Who's they?

BECK: The left.

O'REILLY: OK. They want net neutrality. What does that mean?

BECK: Net neutrality, what it is is they say that you can't -- it's basically the Fairness Doctrine on the Internet.

O'REILLY: So they want to regulate Internet content, those on the left.

BECK: Correct.

O'REILLY: So why would they want to do that? It's a left-wing cesspool.

BECK: How great was it for the left when you shut down opposing voices on talk radio?

O'REILLY: But they didn't. Talk radio is dominated by the right wing.

BECK: No, as soon as the Fairness Doctrine went away. Before that, if the Fairness Doctrine was on talk radio, you couldn't do what we've…

O'REILLY: Well, you have -- you could do it but then they have to put somebody on opposite.

BECK: There is no way that you could do all of the paperwork, etc., etc. now. There's no way you could have that balanced…

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O'REILLY: All right. So, Jimmy Carter and his left-wing friends want to do what?

BECK: Net neutrality. But, also, if you look at what he said here, I think this is really interesting. He says it's -- let's see -- "the talk shows of Glenn Beck and others on Fox News have deliberately distorted the news." That's total falsehood. "And my Republican friends say that MSNBC might be just as biased on the other side supporting the Democratic Party." I believe what they are doing is they are offering up a sacrificial lamb with MSNBC.

O'REILLY: Well, that's what Jay Rockefeller did. We just, you know…

BECK: Exactly right. He wants to get rid of MSNBC as well.

O'REILLY: Right. We're going to talk about that with Bernie Goldberg coming down. But you're absolutely right. That's very perceptive, Beck. Very.

BECK: Once in a while.

O'REILLY: Because you're throwing that -- they know that it has no influence at all. None.

BECK: A, it has no influence at all. It's about to be sold to Comcast.

O'REILLY: Right.

BECK: So what happens to the format, I have no idea. So they are willing to throw that one out. Now that it's outlived its usefulness, they'll throw it out and say, hey, we're getting rid of MSNBC. You've got to get rid of Fox News, too. I'm sorry, no.

O'REILLY: OK. But there isn't a government agency who could get rid of us. FCC has no control over us because we're a paid subscription, all right? They have no control.

BECK: They are trying to regulate Sirius FM.

O'REILLY: They would have to pass, the House, the Senate and the president would have to sign a bill banning Fox News. It's never going to happening.

BECK: What about the Internet? How are they getting into the Internet?

O'REILLY: I don't know about the Internet. I don't know what they are trying to do there. But Carter is out on the stump and he won't come on this program. Have you invited him?

BECK: No.

O'REILLY: You should.

BECK: Oh, no. I don't. All I can think of is high interest rates, really horrible inflation, gas lines.

O'REILLY: Wouldn't you like to talk to him though and you…

BECK: No.

O'REILLY: …say, "Mr. President, what are you talking about?"

BECK: No.

O'REILLY: Give me an example where I have deliberately tried.

BECK: No.

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O'REILLY: I would love to do that.

BECK: Look, he doesn't -- look, if you were dealing with somebody who is going to give you an honest opinion and say, hey, Glenn, you have got it wrong here. We have had the White House sitting in the boss' office saying, you got to shut them down, you got to. OK, well, that's great. We will fire them if they are wrong on stuff or we'll correct it. Tell us what needs to be corrected.

O'REILLY: Well, that's true.

BECK: It was Van Jones with me.

O'REILLY: But I still don't know what Carter is trying to accomplish. He goes out and says these dopey things, can't back it up or won't back it up. And he's trying to persuade, who, the choir? They're already on his side. The Fox haters already hate us.

BECK: I don't know.

O'REILLY: Who is he -- who is he trying…

BECK: Well, honestly, I don't know anybody who is actually listening to Jimmy Carter. I don't know who listened to him in the first place when he was president.

O'REILLY: Well, he got elected. He got elected. Come on.

BECK: He didn't get re-elected.

O'REILLY: No, because he did a horrible job.

BECK: Yes. And have we forgotten that?

O'REILLY: No. I don't think anybody has forgotten that.

BECK: Right. So, he's irrelevant.

O'REILLY: But now he's in his 80s. He writes more books than you, which I don't think is possible. He has a book out ever three weeks, all right? He's well-respected in the sense that he has Habitat work.

BECK: Yes.

O'REILLY: I don't think he's a bad man. I don't know. I don't think he's bad.

BECK: I'm not willing to say that he's a bad man. But I think that he is…

O'REILLY: Misguided.

BECK: Extraordinarily misguided.

O'REILLY: You know when I knew that? At the Democratic Convention in 2000.

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BECK: Sitting next to Michael Moore?

O'REILLY: Him and Rosalynn with Michael Moore.

BECK: Yes.

O'REILLY: And Michael Moore was taking their pretzels. He was eating theirs.

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O'REILLY: I have to correct that right now.

BECK: Yes. Correct it. That was intentional distortion of the news. You know what…

O'REILLY: But they're sitting there and I'm going, what are they -- what are they sitting with him for?

BECK: Bill, that is exactly what I said at the same time.

O'REILLY: Right.

BECK: I got on the radio and I said, you Democrats, you think you're being -- you're eating and using people like Michael Moore for the progressive left for this fuel to get John Kerry. These guys are going to end up eating you, and look what's happened.

O'REILLY: Yes.

BECK: The Democratic Socialists of America have eaten the whole party.

O'REILLY: Once again, Beck, ahead of the curve. And I want to remind everybody that Beck and I are looking forward to seeing everybody on the Gulf Coast in New Orleans on Friday, December 3, and on December 4, we'll be in Dallas. Details on BoldFreshTour.com. And don't forget the big DVD starring Beck and myself. Great stocking stuffer. Santa has been calling us.

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