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Glenn Beck Explains Why He's More Like Ron Paul Than Sarah Palin and Why He Hates Soccer

This is a RUSH transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 18, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

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BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "At Your Beck and Call" segment tonight: a busy week for the G-man. He helped out Judge Andrew Napolitano, who has a new program on the Fox Business Network, and he taped an interview with me last night.

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O'REILLY: All right. So here is Beck.

GLENN BECK, HOST, "GLENN BECK": Yes.

O'REILLY: And he goes on Napolitano's new program on the Fox Business channel, with his kind of libertarian loon thing he's got going on over there.

BECK: Libertarian loon.

O'REILLY: So, Napolitano actually subs for you when you're not around on your program. Asks you a very provocative question, I thought. Roll the tape.

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JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO, HOST, "FREEDOM WATCH": Are you more Sarah Palin or Ron Paul?

BECK: The message, I'm much more Ron Paul than Sarah Palin. The way that message is delivered, or better yet executed, it's taken us 100 years to screw this thing up. You can't just say, hey we are going to pull our troops out from all around the world.

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O'REILLY: And that's what Ron Paul says. You are different, you are different than he is, as far as when and how. But I'm more interested in the Sarah Palin thing because she is a conservative populist.

BECK: Uh-huh.

O'REILLY: That's what the governor is. A conservative populist who is appealing to traditional values and for people who believe that these are pinheads in Washington and that they're not looking out for them.

BECK: So far you haven't said anything I disagree with.

O'REILLY: OK. So why -- what is the separation? Why wouldn't you be more like Sarah Palin?

BECK: Because I think Sarah Palin is more reasonable than I am. I think Sarah Palin is for limited government. I am as well. But I am more and more a libertarian every day.

O'REILLY: So you do admit on "The Factor" that you are not a very reasonable person.

BECK: Not when it comes to fixing our problems. I don't think that we're going to take -- I mean, look at what Barack Obama is doing. He's fundamentally transforming America. To be able to reverse this, you are going to have to -- I mean, let's say nothing else happens, we have $130 trillion of unfunded liabilities. What's happening, there is riots in Europe now because people -- they are saying, hey we have got to cut that off. You do. You have got to cut all of this spending off. You've got to reverse this in a massive sort of way. I'm not sure that Sarah Palin would be for closing the Department of Education. I am.

O'REILLY: And you would be. She is more conventional, and you would take drastic measures to bring the country back to your vision of where it should be.

BECK: Yes.

O'REILLY: That's basically what you're saying.

BECK: Well no, no. Just to economic health.

O'REILLY: Yeah, but I think it can be done in a methodically disciplined way.

BECK: $130 trillion?

O'REILLY: Yes, but remember, the United States economic machine is enormous, and with a few adjustments…

BECK: $130 trillion.

O'REILLY: Yes. I gotcha. I gotcha. I gotcha.

BECK: That's, that's -- if we sell everything that we own, everything, all the land, everything we have, we don't make it to $50 trillion.

O'REILLY: OK.

O'REILLY: Beck, look.

BECK: He's like, whatever.

O'REILLY: These numbers are just -- I mean, I'm sorry. Now, you have alienated -- Glenn Beck has alienated. We are on in about 90 countries in the world. Not only -- we dominate the United States of America. This is the most powerful…

BECK: Who have I made -- I love Israel. I love Great Britain.

O'REILLY: Just keep quiet for a moment. We are on 90 countries. Beck dominates the afternoon and "The Factor" dominates the evening in news coverage and all of that. We get tremendous ratings here. But Beck has alienated all the world, because you have disrespected the World Cup. As you know, soccer – football -- is revered everywhere and you have disrespected it.

BECK: You are -- you are watching soccer, are you? Is little Billy sitting there watching soccer? Are you?

O'REILLY: Little Billy?

BECK: Yes. Little Billy with the big horn.

O'REILLY: Who might that be?

BECK: Yes, he's got that big horn, he's at home (blowing sound). He is really excited about soccer.

O'REILLY: I'm pulling for the Ivory Coast. You got a problem with that?

BECK: Rest of the world. Look, we are not trying to shove football down your throat. OK maybe we are. But, hey we are capitalists. Don't try to shove this crap down our throat. Nobody wants to see it.

O'REILLY: Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Come on, it's skilled.

BECK: Nobody's…

O'REILLY: Wait a minute, Beck. If nobody wants to see it, why is it the most popular sport in the world?

BECK: No. Nobody here wants to see it.

O'REILLY: Nobody here? We are a tiny speck. There is a big world out there, you chauvinist. What's wrong with you?

BECK: I'm an American.

O'REILLY: So what?

BECK: I don't -- I'm not saying you can't watch soccer. I'm saying it stinks on ice.

O'REILLY: What?

BECK: What are you doing watching it? What's wrong with you people?

O'REILLY: What is the matter with you?

BECK: What is -- what?

O'REILLY: Kids are getting healthy. They are running around. They are kicking the ball. And you…

BECK: Oh. Let's kick the ball.

O'REILLY: And you, would you have -- sit home eating M&M's? Get out and kick the ball.

BECK: You want a sport? You know what soccer is? It's worse than curling. At least curling you are like, yes I can I probably do that, pick up a broom. We beat Canada every time we would try to curl. You can have girls come out and curl against the pros in Canada.

O'REILLY: You see, this is where I mean…

BECK: And soccer, please. Please.

O'REILLY: This is what I mean. You go off.

BECK: Why do you…

O'REILLY: You go off. And you know why he really hates soccer? You know why he really hates soccer? Because it was Woodrow Wilson's favorite sport. That's why you hate it.

BECK: Was it? Now I, now I know why. Come on.

O'REILLY: You are a pinhead.

BECK: It's the worst sport…

O'REILLY: You are a pinhead.

BECK: It's the worst sport.

O'REILLY: Come on. People find enjoyment out of it. Don't run it down.

BECK: Bill, Bill, talk to the hand. Here's the thing. America, America thinks soccer. You can play all you want. It's like universal health care. Have it. We don't want any of it.

O'REILLY: We? What do you have a mouse in your pocket? There are a lot of Americans…

BECK: No matter how many bars, no matter how many bars force it on, everybody's like…

O'REILLY: Force it on you? You have to be in a bar. They will pull you into the bar and force you to watch it.

BECK: I'm an alcoholic. I speak from experience. You're sitting in a bar. They turn on the World Cup. And you're like, Jesus, Charlie Rose on? Anything but this crap. Geez.

O'REILLY: Good line, Charlie Rose. On that note, send your mail to Beck.

BECK: Bring it on.

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