Glenn Beck: Who's Afraid of Bill O'Reilly?

This is a rush transcript from "Glenn Beck," October 14, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GLENN BECK, HOST: There are times on TV shows when things get heated and you may have seen a guest or two walk off the set. I'm trying to think of a time, but I haven't. I can't think of a time. And you think somebody would walk off with me and it hasn't happened to me.

But today, two hosts walked off their set. Why? Well, Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg of "The View" — I mean, who would have thunk it? They're so pulled together, both of them. They were running away from our very own Bill O'Reilly.

The anchor of "The O'Reilly Factor" is with us now, Mr. Bill O'Reilly, the author of "Pinheads and Patriots." Bill, before I get to you, I want to get your reaction from what happened today. Here it is.




WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Then why aren't we saying -

O'REILLY: Because it's inappropriate.


O'REILLY: Muslims killed us on 9/11.

GOLDBERG: No. Oh, my god! That is —

O'REILLY: Muslims didn't kill us on 9/11? Is that what you said?


O'REILLY: I'm telling you. Seventy percent of the country -

JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": I don't want to sit here. I don't want to sit here. I don't.


O'REILLY: Muslims killed us on 9/11.


BECK: It was a better show after they left, but maybe that's just me. Barbara Walters seemed to be the only adult at least on that side of the couch. Barbara Walters actually said, "This is exactly what is wrong with America. We have can't get up and just walk away from conversations and debates on the issue."

Bill, while I disagree with your reasoning on the mosque on why you don't think it should be built there, what happened?

O'REILLY: I don't know. I mean, just told the truth that Muslims attacked us on 9/11. I guess, I wasn't sensitive enough for Ms. Behar or Ms. Goldberg. And I apologize for not being sensitive enough.

But I think after almost 10 years, we all got that it was Muslim extremists. As I say on "The Factor" tonight, when we're talking about World War II, do we say we were attacked by Japanese extremists? No, we talked about — Japanese attacked us. Not every Japanese, but that was the group. This was the group that attacked us — were Muslims.

BECK: Do you think if they would have had, let's say, Michael Moore on — and not to compare you to Michael Moore and I apologize to you. But if you would have had Michael Moore on and he said, "These Tea Party people — they are all terrorists," do you think any of them would have gotten up or even gotten heated at that?

O'REILLY: No. I don't believe anybody would have walked off if Michael Moore said tea party people are racist. But look, the big issue that I want your audience, in case they didn't see the program today, was that I was saying there is a gulf between the president and many Americans and that's hurting them in the polls about the economy.

And the gulf is that when he was asked about the wisdom of the 9/11 mosque, he wouldn't answer the question. And most Americans, according to the CNN poll, which I cited, agree with me, that it's inappropriate place to put a mosque because of what happened on 9/11.

BECK: I agree with you.

O'REILLY: That was the point of it.

BECK: Right.

O'REILLY: I wasn't that I went on "The View" to attack Muslims. I like Muslims. I want them to buy "Pinheads and Patriots." Why would I alienate a billion and a half people worldwide, some of whom might pony up money to buy the book?

BECK: No, it's —

O'REILLY: All right. I'm not telling you —

BECK: You know what?


BECK: It is that kind of charitable heart that I think makes Bill O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly.

O'REILLY: I like Hindus. I like Moluccans. I like everybody.

BECK: Whatever. Bill, the thing that really drove me nuts was the fact that they kept bringing it back to Timothy McVeigh. First of all, Timothy McVeigh didn't blow anybody up in the name of God. Had he blown up anybody in the name of God he would have been just as wrong spiritually as he was psychologically for blowing people up in the first place.

But they always try to equate extremists Muslims with Christians. Not calling them extremists Christians. Maybe you know better than I, but I don't believe that Timothy McVeigh was an extremist Christian.

O'REILLY: Well, it's not even —

BECK: I don't remember the —

O'REILLY: It's not even a valid argument point, because McVeigh, and his little crew, doesn't represent anything. They are just crazy guys, killers, murders and we put them away and they got what they deserve.

The Muslims who attacked us on to 9/11 are part of the jihad, which is a movement. And the movement has not been confronted by the so- called moderate Muslims, good Muslims. They haven't confronted the jihad.

BECK: Some have. Some have.

O'REILLY: Very few.

BECK: Very few, but Zuhdi Jasser comes to mind.

O'REILLY: If all of the moderate Muslims throughout the world would confront the jihad, the jihad couldn't exist. The jihad exists because governments let the jihad exist.

BECK: I have talked to moderate Muslims. Zuhdi Jasser is one of them. I believe you know him as well.

O'REILLY: Yes, sure.

BECK: Zuhdi has said to me several times it is attitudes like what they just gave on "The View" that hurt the moderate Muslim, because they need —

O'REILLY: Look, I don't think any Muslim was hurt by that exposition, OK?

BECK: No, no, no. No, wait. Listen to me. They're saying that it hurts because people are not saying there is a difference between them. Help the people inside stand up. Make sure that you call spade a spade. This is wrong. What do you call it? Not jihad. But what do you call the extreme Muslim way of living that they — Shariah.

O'REILLY: Right.

BECK: By not saying Shariah should not be practiced here in the United States under no circumstance, hurts moderate Muslim.

O'REILLY: The truth that many liberal Americans don't want to acknowledge is if you look at every opinion poll in the Muslim world, most Muslims don't believe 9/11 was even committed by Al Qaeda, OK?

They have a very low favorability of America even with Obama in charge. There is a tension between the Muslim world and America because we're infidels. You heard it on Christiane Amanpour's program on ABC News. She brings a Muslim cleric on from London and he goes, "Hey, pretty soon, the flag of Islam is going to fly over the White House."

BECK: She cuts him off.

O'REILLY: Are we just supposed to ignore all this? There was tension between —

BECK: She did.

O'REILLY: The Muslim world and America. And I'm going to tell the truth and that is the truth.

BECK: OK. Bill O'Reilly, truth teller and also best-selling author, "Pinheads and Patriots."

O'REILLY: Right, Beck.

BECK: Thank you, Bill. We'll talk to you again.

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