Glenn Beck's Open Forum

This is a rush transcript from "Glenn Beck," October 11, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GLENN BECK, HOST: Hello, America.

I want to start with this. Tonight, we have a different show for you and it's kind of a philosophical show — a little bit. I'm working on some things in my head. And I have to tell you, that I feel like I have been filling my body with poison for the last four years.

There is a soupy saying, that which you gaze upon, you become. And I have tried hard not to become what I gaze upon.

Last night at 2 o'clock in the morning, I was just reading some old — just some stuff that has happened in the past that are just horror shows. And I'm tired. I'm tired of reading it. I'm tired of talking to you about it. And I'm tired, quite honestly, of being the guy that has to bring it to you.

It's poison. It's poison. And the answer isn't just to expose the poison. The answer really comes I think from this guy.

It's not the poison is the problem. It is the connection — really where I started here — the 9.12 project — it is the values and the principles that make us great. It is the — it is the reaching out of the slime, trying to grab for something higher.

But it doesn't seem like that's what we're doing. I am very optimistic on the things that I have seen. The things that have happened recently are miracles. Would you have believed that, what, a year ago, 18 months ago, would you have believed your country could have changed in the good way as well as the bad — in the good way as much as it has?

Tremendous progress. Tremendous. Progress towards a stated goal of restoration.

This is Dietrich Bonnhoeffer. This is the picture that hangs on the wall right across my desk.

I fill my body with so much poison and images and words and everything else that I see that I have taken everything out of my office and replaced it with just goodness and courage and things that I want to become.

It didn't even know who this guy was. This is a book called
"Bonnhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy." I've only read a few bits of it. I haven't — I haven't read all of it yet. I haven't had time because I'm trying to study this guy.

But I picked it up the other day, because coincidentally, the guy who wrote this book bumped into me the other day, actually bumped into one of my staff members. And my staff member came to me and said, you really have to talk to this guy. He said, I don't think, Glenn, you really understand. You guys are meant to talk to each other.

And I said, I will, I will, I will. I'll get to that. I have to get to that. Because what this man did, this is a guy who was a Lutheran minister in Germany. And he was one of the first guys to see it. He was one of the first guys to say, Hey, we can't do that to the Jews. As soon as the chancellor was named as Hitler, he stood up and he warned and he said, look, we can't do this. We're changing.

And the reason why is because God was being lost. You have to understand, Germany was a God-centric place, but he was kind of — he talks later in life when he was in prison and they were torturing him, he talked about we need a — I think he called it a churchless religion or something like that. And the left always tries to twist that into, see, he's a social justice guy! He's — no, he wasn't.

What he meant by that was in Germany, everything was so stiff and everything was by the book and by the rule. And all of the people that were behind the pulpit just said, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Just don't make trouble. It's going to be OK. We'll just get past this.

And he wouldn't shut up.

He said silence in the face of evil is itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.

When my friend bumped into this guy — I said, I will, I will. I have to talk to him. I'll get to that. But I have to find somebody that can talk to me about Gandhi first. I have to study Gandhi. And he said, now you really have to talk to somebody about Bonnhoeffer. He said because Bonnhoeffer said, while he was in Germany the whole time, somebody's has to get me in front of Gandhi. I know Gandhi has the answer.

Gandhi does have the answer. The answer is love. The answer is — you know, even Jesus turned over the table. And so did Gandhi. But he found a way to never hate. He found a way — and we have found a way in our nation. But I don't know — and let me ask the audience: Do you feel something is happening to our country?

This is a — you're walking a tightrope. We're walking a tightrope. And look at what he has done. You know, for a year, they tried to set up people like you or like me as violent, as dangerous.

Have you noticed that they don't make that case anymore? Why? Because we took that tool away from them — we took that tool away from them. You stood and you were who you were. You stood and you weren't angry and you weren't dangerous and you weren't threatening people.

And then 8.28 happened.

They can no longer make that case that you're dangerous, hateful or out of control. You just have to take the tools away one at a time. And then let them destroy themselves.

Before we start, because I want to just have a conversation with the audience here, and I want to have a one-on-one. It spent a lot of time in New York. And New York a weird place.


BECK: And it is a place that is — somebody said hi to me. This happened last night. Somebody said hi to me and I'm walking down the street. And they're like, Glenn Beck. I'm like, where? I hate that guy!


BECK: And I said, hey. He said, "Big fan!" Here's the thing, he said it out loud and he was a New Yorker. Usually it's this, "big fan."

Things are changing and it's a good thing that they are. But sometimes, sitting here in New York, I can get a little lost and I want to hear what you are concerned about, about what you need, about what your neighbors are saying. What is it going to take to wake them up? How can we — how can we best make the case? Because this isn't about an election. This is not about an election. It's not about the president.

It really is about — three things here. Where did we come from? These are the only three questions in life, I think: Where did we come from? Where are we going to end up? Where are we going? And what happens in between?

And it's the "what happens in between" related to, where did we come from or where are we going? That's the real secret.

What is the natural order of things? Is it this?

Ronald, come here for a second.

What is the natural order of things?

Tyson, you come here for a second.

My staff was paid handsomely today to put these all like this.

Now for free, Ronald, and Tyson, just start to shake — you don't have to shake hard. Shake from the bottom. Shake from the bottom. Just keep shaking.

Now, here's my question. See the order — how long — how long, anyone, do these guys have to shake before that pattern comes back that we started? How long — Gabe?


BECK: Forever. It will never go back to the order. Never. You can shake and shake and shake, and that pattern will never be repeated in nature. It won't. You can shake forever.

Well, what does that tell you? That tells you — thanks, guys. That tells you — and this I'm taking home.


BECK: That tells you that when you find order, something is afoot. And this really is — this is — this is life. This is what happens in life.

Is your life what you plan it on being? Because it's not mine. Mine isn't anything like that.

My daughter said to me the other day, she said, "Dad, my life never turns out the way it's supposed to." I said, no!

Life never turns out in a nice neat pattern, order and entropy. What is entropy? Entropy is this. Everything decays.

Now, why am I telling you about this? And I doubt I'm never going to get to the pineapple.


BECK: Why am I telling you this? Because that's what's happened to our nation: entropy. That's what happened to us. That's what happened to our family. Entropy. It's natural. It's spiritual gravity. It just — it just pulls you apart.

It's honestly — it's why you don't want to see me with my shirt off because after a while, everything just goes. It just decays. That's what life is all about, really. It is the endurance of the decay.

So, how does that relate? What happens when you decay? If you're living in a nation that needs order and it just keeps decaying, where do you get the order?

You get the order from somebody. You usually end up begging somebody. Wait, I can't make sense of this. I don't know what this is. Nothing is working.

And then usually, somebody will come in and they'll say, oh, I can make this work. Let me shake it for a while.

Instead, what we need is not somebody to teach us how to do that. We need to figure out what the order is supposed to look like. If it requires to us take and dump it out and start all over again, well, then, that's what we need to do.

But no matter what you do, no matter how you shake it, no matter who's in charge, unless they take everything out and they look for the pattern, and say, OK, this was the pattern, you're never going to get it back. It's going to decay. Even if we go into socialism, which will transform us, and that's what's happening; even if we go in a new global order, it is a lower order than freedom. It is a lower order than a republic.

So, that will decay as well. And that's why socialism always ends poorly. And that's putting it mildly. It always ends poorly, because it will decay as well. And then you need another nudge.

Can anybody explain why I think that we should stop concentrating on our rights? Everybody is concentrating on our rights. Does anybody have any thoughts on why we shouldn't concentrate on our rights?

Are there — is there any — is there anybody who is Jewish here? You are, Ronald and Samara.


BECK: Can you tell me in the Torah how many times is the word "rights" used? Eighty thousand words. How many times is "rights" used?

AUDIENCE MEMBER: I can't tell you that. I don't know.

BECK: You don't know? Gabe says zero. Zero.

Why? Why? Because the Torah — God's law — is all about responsibilities. Well, wait, don't I get rights from God? Yes, yes.

How many have children? When your children were little or if they still are little, do you make a list of all the things you have to do? Make your bed, do this, put a little star by their name. They check it off. Make sure you've done this, and this and this.

Why don't we write down — by the way, you have a right to a roof over your head? By the way, you have a — you have a right to three square a day and a bed? Why don't I teach my children that? Because that's implied. I'm a good dad. Good mom. That's implied.

All that mom and dad have to do is focus on the responsibilities, because we all know as parents, once we lose our responsibility, once somebody is not pulling their weight in the house, the pattern is lost. And the whole thing breaks apart. So, that's usually, that happens in the teenage years when a parent says, as long as you're living under my house, you'll obey my rules, right? That's usually when the teenager, at their worst, says, You can't do that to me. I have rights! And that's when your house is in chaos.

That's what's happening now. We don't — we don't have to worry about our rights, when we start concentrating on our responsibilities and we start concentrating on the pattern, the pattern. We will be OK and it will restore itself.

The free market — the free market, I think it's God's way of teaching people how to do good. And here's why: How can you get game? How can you get game? You can either come up with an idea and convince other people, this is a great idea and then you can sell it to them. And then they can buy it. And they'll tell a friend, this is fantastic. And they'll buy another one from you. And it will spread.

What are you doing? For the free market to work, because it only work — if you are selling your friends and people crap, it will only work for a short period of time. People will go: that's crap. So, for the free market to work provide something that somebody needs, somebody wants. Something that's going to enrich their life or make them have an easier go of it — that's the free market system.

The only other way to make money is to cheat, to steal or to swindle. But it's really just those choices. Guess which one we've been doing lately?

Back in just a second.


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