Time to Be Heard: Young Conservatives

This is a rush transcript from "Glenn Beck," April 9, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GLENN BECK, HOST: Well, hello, America. Welcome to "The Glenn Beck Program."

Tonight, we have another chapter in our special of "Time to Be Heard." It's a series that we've done. And nobody seems to be talking to black conservatives. You don't ever see a black conservative on television. So, we've done a couple episodes with black conservatives.

And these are young — these are college students. Yes! And they're conservatives!

What? I didn't think that existed.

Yes. And you're going to meet them tonight. We have students and recent college grads from Princeton, NYU, Fordham and more.

I can't even imagine being a conservative and going to NYU. But somebody does it and lives to tell the story.


BECK: And they're 24 years old or younger. The youngest here — we have two that are 15 years old. They're in high school. They're in business school, law school, nursing school. Some of them might with the president of the United States if we last that long.

You are looking at America's future. And it is time for them to be heard. So, let's get right to it.

Katie, we're going to — you guys introduce yourselves and tell me your name, where you go to school, what you do for a living and what your turn-ons and turn-offs for America's future. What are you most afraid of?

KATIE POEDTKE, FORDHAM UNIVERSITY STUDENT: Right. I'm Katie Poedtke. I'm a senior at Fordham, where I'm president of the College Republicans there. I'm hoping to work in public relations, but I'm most concerned about the changing role of government from protector of freedom to provider of entitlement.


SAGAR VACHHANI, NYU COLLEGE REPUBLICANS: I'm Sagar Vachhani and I go to NYU. And I'm —


BECK: Bleed it out.

VACHHANI: Yes, it's been a tough four years.

BECK: I bet it has. I bet has.

VACHHANI: And I'm currently —

BECK: Are you out? I mean, have you been outed as a conservative on campus?

VACHHANI: Yes. I mean, I've been part of the College Republicans group on campus since freshman years.

BECK: Wow! What are you most concerned about?

VACHHANI: Growing national deficit and the seemingly — I guess, the ignorance of Congress and the national government in general about the effects of this.

BECK: OK. Nicole?

NICOLE PIASIO, NYU COLLEGE REPUBLICANS: Hi, how are you? My name is Nicole Piasio. And I'm a freshman at NYU and I'm also on the College Republican. And my biggest fear, I have to say, is the changing role in health care and the way it's going to affect the occupations of both doctors and nurses and all health care professionals.

BECK: What do you want to be?

PIASIO: I'm in nursing.

BECK: Nursing school.


BECK: OK. Kevin?

KEVIN FALLON, FORDHAM UNIVERSITY STUDENT: My name is Kevin Fallon. I'm a business student at Fordham University. Probably most concerned about the state of our public education system. I think it fails too many people. I think it could be a lot better.




BECK: Good to see you.

EATON-WHITE: Thank you for having me back.

BECK: You bet.

EATON-WHITE: My name is Leette Eaton-White. I'm a contributor for Hip-Hop Republican. I'm a senior at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. And I'm the treasurer for Republican Club there.

BECK: OK. And your biggest concerns?

EATON-WHITE: That will be the expansion of government and also the corruption in the media. It's troubling when you have four networks propagating one idea and everyone picks on the one network that makes an attempt to be fair.

BECK: Right. Well, I mean, you can disagree with us but we at least try.


DEREK ROY, WESTERN CT. STATE UNIV. STUDENT: My name is Derek Roy. I'm a senior at Western Connecticut State University in Denver, Connecticut, and also the president of the College Republicans on campus.

BECK: OK. Are you guys — you're all Republicans?


BECK: Is there a difference between Republican and conservative? What is the difference?

FALLON: I believe that in the two-party system, we've sort of clung to partisanship. And I don't agree with that necessarily. I think it's important for people to — conservatives, all about their ideals and what they believe in, more so than just what the party necessarily wants.

BECK: OK. So, are you guys thinking that you're going to — you will change the Republican Party? Or you are happy with the Republican Party? Or what's the difference between a conservative and Republican? Anybody?

Go ahead.

VACHHANI: I mean, I think that kind of going off of what he was saying. I think that party change over time. I think — like being a conservative is more having, I guess, an allegiance to certain ideals. Whereas, the party's platform can change.

BECK: If you — if you saw a Democrat running and you said, oh, my gosh, he believes all the things that I believe, would you vote for him?

VACHHANI: Absolutely.


BECK: Would you? Yes?


BECK: You guys? Raise your hand, yes? Yes?

OK. Let's — let me talk to — I want to start here with — I know what it's like to be a commentator and conservative. I mean, I can't even imagine what it would be like — I mean, I think I would be the richest man in the world and I might be named "god" if I were a liberal. With the success that we had in television, being the anti-Christ, if I were a liberal, I mean, I can't imagine what it would be like.

Being a conservative and successful in media, it's alone, with the exception of being here at FOX, and you are pilloried. I get the joy, though, of being on television. You have to endure it in college sometimes alone. How — how does it feel being conservative? How are you treated?

EATON-WHITE: You know, here's the thing — when you're talking about how you're treated by your peers, it's (INAUDIBLE). When it's in the classroom, it takes on a completely different nature because you're with a teacher. Many college professors are liberal. And normally, the more power a professor has, the more likely they are to wield it over the students.

Grad students who are teaching adjunct professors usually allow for a far more civil discourse in the platform. Of course they have their bias. And I don't have a problem with a teacher expressing a bias so long as they keep the environment open for me to disagree. One of my professors (INAUDIBLE) did a great job on talking about Marxist and critical race theory today but he allowed everyone in the class to express their opinion. You know, he didn't make it an intimidating environment.

And I've had professors who made it intimidating environment. It was hard to speak up without worrying about, is this going to affect my grade.

BECK: I had a professor at Yale named Wayne Meeks (ph) and I loved this guy, because almost every class I have with him I thought, I know where he's coming from now. And then the next class I had — wait a minute, he actually believes this. The end of the class, the end of the term, I had no idea what this man believed. He would challenge you, you would say something, and he would challenge you and keep throwing it back at you. That's the way it should be.

Do you find that to be the case very often?

VACHHANI: I don't think so. First, from my personal experience, it's been pretty biased one way. And I have had very few professors that I think would I guess take both sides. And, I mean, you would also kind of know where they're coming from.

BECK: Nicole, let me ask — let me ask you this. You find yourself as a conservative, it's not popular.

PIASIO: No. No, it isn't.

BECK: Do you find yourself generally hiding it? Or just not bringing it up? How much of the time do you bite your tongue?

PIASIO: I'd have to say, a lot of students when you first tell them like, oh, I'm off to the College Republicans, meaning, it's like, do we have one of those? You get that reaction.

And then when it comes to the classroom, I'm pro — I'm totally pro- life. So, from my perspective looking at education, when it comes to nursing, I haven't necessarily gotten there yet in my program. When it comes to nursing, I am mentally thinking that way. I'm thinking in a conservative way. I'm not — I'm there to listen to all opinions. But it's the way my ideas are fostered that sort of let me be educated in my way I sort of —

BECK: My daughters are in college. And they tell me that even their really liberal friends — my daughter actually told me of one story that she has a very radical progressive acquaintance. And they were sitting around — oh, she knows what progressives are.


BECK: And she sat around and they were all talking and she said, it really crept me out, dad. At one point we're all talking, having a good conversation, liberals and conservatives and everything else and having a good conversation. And she said, this person who's a real radical, she said just looked at him and said things are about to change. And she said it was like I was in a Damien movie all of a sudden.


BECK: You know, I heard a spooky music started.

But she has told me that even people who voted for Barack Obama and, you know, when she first went to college and he was just ushered in, everybody was, you know, gung-ho. She said, but now, there is a change. Even the liberals are starting to say, something is not right.

Do you find that at all? Have you seen a sea change at all?

ROY: I've seen that. I can't speak for NYU so much — but at my university at Connecticut, I've been able to have professors who do present both sides of the story. They question, you know, what it is you say, like you mentioned your professor at Yale. There are a couple of professors at my university that do that, too.

The liberal professors that have reputation, they know we're in trouble. They know we're headed in a wrong path. They know the government is spiraling.

BECK: I'm talking about the students. I'm talking about the people - - the students.

ROY: Right. The students know it, too. And I think that they definitely know it. The message is resonating. They're shocked by the fact that health care actually passed and how this is going to affect us.

You know, at NYU, they mention, you know, how the students there, we have a College Republicans Club. At my university, I'm lucky enough where we're a smaller university, but our club is popular. We are big on campus. We had a lot of trouble getting started. But now that we're actually — we've been around for a couple of years, we have proven to stick to our ideals.

BECK: How many people in your Republican Club in Connecticut?

ROY: I'd say we have about 30 members that actually regularly show up.

BECK: Me and my wife, I think that's about 32 people now that —

ROY: Thirty-two Republicans.

BECK: Yes.


BECK: We're both (ph) Republican.

ROY: Yes.

BECK: At least in Connecticut.

So, let me — let me go here. How many of you — and I want to include the audience here, too. How many people think that you're going to inherit something of real value as a country? How many of you think that in, when you're in my age, this country is going to be — well, let's make it five years from now, this country is going to be financially anything but wreckage? Nobody. Nobody.

OK. People will say, well, George Bush was spending us into oblivion. And I said earlier this week on one of my shows, you know, they'll always say, well, where were you when George Bush — my answer is, I was pointing that out.

But even if your answer wasn't that, it doesn't matter anymore, does it? It doesn't matter. It should be — you're awake now, you know? Come on and join me.

What is — what is the idea — or what are you feeling about the future and the spending and all of it?

EATON-WHITE: You know, when people walk in the Republican Club room at John Jay, you know, I'll say, so are you here for Republicans Club? And they're like, no, I'm a Democrat. So I'm like let me ask you two questions.

And I asked someone, you earn a paycheck, who does it belong to? Who has the right to it? And everyone answers the same way. They say me. I ask them three times. They will say it belongs to me.

Why shouldn't we apply that everywhere? What you earn is what you deserve. And it shouldn't be anybody else's unless you say so. And so many people are upset with the kind of spending because they know that's their money that's being taken from them and spent out carelessly without knowledge of what it's really going to.

I'm upset that our Congress went and passed a bill that most of them didn't read, and if they read it, they didn't understand it. Why are you voting to spend somebody else's money on something you don't know anything about?


EATON-WHITE: It's careless. And, frankly, anyone who votes, if you voted for one of these people, don't vote for them again. If you vote for them again expecting a different result, news flash — you're insane.

BECK: What is the — what — I mean, I'm one of these guys that have a hard time voting for — I vote for principles. And I voted — in Connecticut, I voted for Joe Lieberman when he was a Democrat and when he was a Republican. I disagree with him on most things. I mean, I think he is — he is a big spender. He's a big government guy, et cetera, et cetera. But at least, he was one of the only honest people that I had ever met.

You know, in Washington, he was a guy who, I know Joe is going to say, you know what, Glenn, I'm going to vote for everything that you disagree with. But at least I know that going in. I'm not being lied to. You know what I mean?

I'm one of these guys that have a hard time looking at politicians now and believing anything they have to say. The people who were running our country now — in the '60s, they used to say don't believe anybody — anything anybody says if they're over 30. Why do you guys believe in anybody in Washington?

VACHHANI: I personally have a tough time believing people. I mean, we just had, I guess, who was it, Congressman Hare who said that he read the bill three times. And judging by his comments, I don't know if he read it three times. And even if he did, it's a lot of reading and he refused to answer his constituents' question on how long did it take to read the bill? And he couldn't — he didn't have any answer for it.

BECK: I mean, that's 6,000 pages.

VACHHANI: A lot of pages. Yes.

ROY: Maybe I'm weird but I'm still a big fan of the whole "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" thing. That we as young conservatives bring a lot to the table, that we are experienced, we can change the world, and maybe it's a little grandiose, but I think one College Republican meeting at a time, we can make it happen. And that there are so many people involved. The people coming out to the meetings, town committees are packed, young people are running for office all over the country, it's a pretty dire situation and it's about time people woken up.

BECK: OK. When we come back, I'm going to — we're going to have more conversation and with the audience as well. And then I — and then I want to show you possibly future politicians, but possibly future replacements for me. I share that with you — coming up.




BECK: Back with our special series and another installment of "Time to Be Heard." This time, it's young conservatives and young Republicans.

Quite honestly, I would think that young Republicans would be dying out because the Republican Party is struggling itself. But there seems to be a new breed of Republicans coming to the table. So, time for them to be heard.

I want to play a little bit of indoctrination that we've talked about on this program before. This is being played in schools and colleges all around the country. It's the "Story of Stuff." And here's just a little clip of it.


NARRATOR, 'STORY OF STUFF': I'm using a person to symbolize the government because I hold true to the vision and values that the government should be of the people, by the people, for the people. It's the government's job to watch out for us, to take care of us, that's their job.

Then along came the corporation. Now, the reason the corporation looks bigger than the government is that the corporation is bigger than the government. Of the 100 largest economies on earth now, 51 are corporations. And as the corporation has grown in size and power, we've seen a little change in the government where they're a little more concerned to making sure everything is working out for those guys than for us.


BECK: Meghan, you are a college fresh freshman — where?


BECK: At NYU. And they showed this.

STORM: They did. It was in my MAP course teacher. She's like, a requirement for college science student —

BECK: Wait, wait, wait. In your, what course?

STORM: It's called MAP.


STORM: It's Morse Academic Plan. It's a requirement that you're forced to take. And I'm taking a science course and it's called Nature and the Environment. And I basically — we finished a topic on global warming.


BECK: Somewhere, your parents is paying for this!

STORM: Yes, my dad was not happy. And so, we're sitting there and we finished global warming and they asked how many people agree with, how many people disagree. Me and two other people raised our hand and said we still don't understand and we don't buy it. But, we like got a look from everybody in the room, of course.

And then they put on this video and we watched it. And it's easily for a second grader and they're showing it to college freshman through seniors. It's like mixed grades in that course. I know, it's just — we watched it and I couldn't believe it.


BECK: What was thing that — what was the thing that you thought it was trying to teach?

STORM: That America is evil basically. That the government is here to save us all basically from the end of the world and that capitalism is bad and the environment must be saved immediately. And it's just things I've been taught my whole life by my parents and by watching networks like Fox aren't necessarily the case and it's just throwing it on your face.

BECK: How many people here have — would say that it is a friend that made you conservative? How many would say it was teacher that made you conservative? How many would say it was your parents that made you conservative? Is there anything else left from that? That's the answer I thought I would get is, you know, what Michael?

AUDIENCE MEMBER: I've been watching all the things that go on and just you realize when you see, listen to Democrats and liberals toss around ideas that just don't work, you realize that that's really not the way to go, you know? I didn't — when I entered college, I wasn't sure which way I leaned. And at NYU, you get thrown this liberalism in your face.

I saw a person and then-Senator Barack Obama was coming at NYU in 2007 and somebody asked me, oh, were you going to see Barack Obama? And I said, no, I'm not really a fan. And he said, oh, I didn't know you supported Hillary Clinton. And I'm like —


BECK: Can I tell you something?

AUDIENCE MEMBER: There are other people that I could be voting for like Republicans, which was obviously the case. And when that's the environment you're in, you say to yourself, gee, you really — am I crazy or is this just what we're dealing with?

BECK: May I tell you something. When I took my daughter, she was looking for colleges. And she made me wear a ball cap and glasses when she went for the weekend at Columbia. And it was — I remember walking on the campus and I had the ball cap down and I was looking down because she really didn't want anybody to know who I was. So, I'm looking down and all I see are these people on the street and their feet, they painted their shoes green and they're wearing green. And then I see a tip of orange right here, about this.

And I said, where the hell am I? And she said, dad, you are in the middle of a carrot farmer protest right now.


BECK: And I said to her, I cannot spend my money here.


BECK: And — but the guy giving the tour of the campus said to me, and, you know, we want you to know that we have a wide — this is a very diverse campus. We have speakers from the entire spectrum. We had Ahmadinejad here, and Bill and Hillary Clinton.


BECK: I think there's more of this over here. But it's amazing how they just don't even see the —

AUDIENCE MEMBER: A keynote speaker at NYU for this semester declared that Bill Clinton was one of the two most conservative presidents over the past 100 years.

BECK: What?


AUDIENCE MEMBER: And that's what we're dealing with. And it's just incredible that they can perpetuate things that are just historically inaccurate, if not downright stupid.

BECK: That's why I'll tell you what, I think the professor I told you about earlier, I gained his respect when he told me not to read a book — I questioned him on something and I said, well, what do you think of this theory? And he said, who are you reading? And I told him. And he said don't read him. Read this guy. That guy, he's wrong. Read this guy. And so, I wrote it down.

The next week I came to class, and I raised my happened and I said, let me ask you this. And he said, Mr. Beck, didn't I tell you last week to stop reading that guy? And I said, yes, you told me to read the other guy, which I did. But let me get back to him.

And he looked at me and he said, excuse me? And I said, I don't care that you disagree with him, I want to know why you disagree with him. Why is he wrong?

And that was the beginning of a relationship. I mean, you know, it's not like we were hanging out and having beers together.


BECK: But I think that was the point where he looked at me and he said, oh, this guy wants to actually learn.

And there are professors that I think if you — that's what they're paid for, you know? I don't know what they think they're being paid for. But challenge them, push them up against the wall, question them with boldness, make them defend it because that's what you're that's what you're — you are the person buying his service. Make him do his job, make her job earn her money. It's the last — and maybe the last chance you'll ever have of anybody have to earn their money in this society ever again.


BECK: We'll be right back in just a second.




BECK: Welcome back to our special, our series, "Time to Be Heard." It's time for young conservatives to be heard. This is a chalkboard that I did on Tuesday's show. And it is a story really of Barack Obama and everybody in his life. I mean, these are the highlights we can squeeze in for an hour.

The communists and the Marxists in his life - mom and dad, Marxist, communist, Marxist - I think a Marxist - communist, anti-capitalist at best. Workers of the world unite. Marxist. Marxist.

I asked this question when I finished the show and I said, "I don't think I know one Marxist. I don't know one Marxist." Is there anybody here that knows this many Marxists? You are in a college campus and you don't know that many Marxists.

Here is the problem. Do you re recognize the difference between people who are openly at least said at one time, "I'm a communist. I'm a communist revolutionary." But now he says in his own words, "I'm going to drop the radical pose for the radical ends." Who is being taught social justice in school? Katie(ph), you're being taught social justice?

KATIE MANZI, NEW YORK YOUNG REPUBLICAN CLUB: I was taught. I went to the College of the Holy Cross in Massachusetts. I graduated but, you know, I have to say that my political science department is always very fair and balanced. And I actually had (UNINTELLIGIBLE).


BECK: Hang on. Social justice as Marxism, as liberation theology or -

MANZI: Social justice as I think you see in a lot of, you know, the judgment institution that's very - and sort of liberal Catholic left.

BECK: What do they mean? Take it or give it?

MANZI: Take it and then give it.

BECK: That's socialist - Marxist social justice. Yes. Leette, we were talking - you had two?

LEETTE EATON-WHITE, STUDENT, JOHN JAY COLLEGE: Two teachers in the last three weeks to use the analogy of "It's easier for a camel to enter the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter heaven." You know, we have -

BECK: How did you debate that? What did you say?

EATON-WHITE: You know, I was too stunned to say anything. And I'm like, is it really worth it to argue about this?

BECK: Yes, it is.

EATON-WHITE: Of course, it is.

BECK: Yes, it is.

EATON-WHITE: But the real problem is that when you're using analogies like that, not only are they pushing an agenda, but they are purposefully perverting a religion for politics. And that truly, truly stops me.

BECK: Well, you see, that is the secret here. And that's what we have been doing this year - faith, hope and charity. And one of the reasons why I'm on faith is because it's being perverted from the inside. It's being used.

And that's where liberation theology came from. It came from South America. They knew they couldn't - they knew they couldn't control the people unless they could break the back of religion.

Catholicism was so strong so they weaseled their way in there and distorted things. Kevin you were having a conversation about -

KEVIN FALLON, STUDENT, FORDHAM UNIVERSITY: It was sort of perversion of charity.

BECK: Yes.

FALLON: You know, we're talking about a time we were debating against the college Democrats. We were talking about sort of different alternatives to a tax regime.

And this individual offered the idea that, well, no one would give to charity if we didn't have, you know, an income tax so there would be the tax deduction.

But my response was, you know, we don't give to charity because of a tax deduction. We give to charity out of compassion and wanting to help others.

BECK: What is the problem with that? What is the problem with that theory? If you say, well, nobody will do it because there isn't a tax deduction so we're going to take it from people because it needs to be done. Kristin, what is the problem with that?

KRISTIN GOLAT, MEMBER, STATEN ISLAND TEA PARTY: To me, it makes people sound like they're greedy and they only do it because, oh, well, it's a tax deduction and I get more money on my tax paycheck.

And it's not fair because some of us do donate money out of the goodness of our hearts towards charities in memory of loved ones. And it makes people out to be evil.

BECK: OK. Jason?

JASON ANGELICO, STUDENT, NEW YORK UNIVERSITY: Americans have been proven to be the most charitable people on earth even with the amount of usurping taxes that we've been given especially in the coast of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) states.

BECK: But you guys are missing the point. What does that collapse, what does that hurt by taking it, by doing it this way? Go ahead.

ALEKSANDER DANILOV, MEMBER, STATEN ISLAND TEA PARTY: I was going to say is the incremental impact of that is that if they can take this much away that they think should be given to charity, how much more will they take and what is justify it?

BECK: Michael, what were you just saying?

MICHAEL, AUDIENCE MEMBER: Who do I trust more, the federal government or the charity I want to give the money to, to do the right thing?

BECK: See, I think you guys are all - they're all good answers. But I think you are missing the main point. What is the point - if we're going to go back to eye of the needle, what was the point of that?

EATON-WHITE: The point of that was that, you know, you can't enter heaven by doing stuff. It's about having it come from your heart. It's not - you are building resentment when people are giving that way through the government as opposed to giving freely.

Conservatism is compassionate. Liberalism is forcing people to regulate morality and you cannot do that.

BECK: If a system takes it from it - first of all, if that is the definition of charity, I am one of the most charitable men on the planet every April 15th.

That is not the definition of charity. And what it does is it corrupts us as individuals because - I mean, the difference between any small town that I've ever lived in and New York City - and I find myself doing this.

I walk by things and problems in New York City. I think, why hasn't the city fixed this because they're taxing me through the nose? Why haven't they fixed this?

Instead of saying, why don't I pick this up? Why can't I do this? I've got to fix this. There is a problem here. You walk by homeless and homeless and homeless. You think, how much am I paying? How many beds are there? Why isn't this fixed yet?

Instead of saying, "Brother, are you OK?" It stops us and gives our responsibility to somebody else. That is not the way to build a better man or a better human. We'll be back in just a second.



JASON VELEY, "THE JUNIOR FACTOR": Welcome to the Junior Factor. I'm Jason.


Basically, we take a - you know, an amendment or two or an article from the Constitution and we give our interpretation of it.

VELEY: But the fact that President Obama is our president, we need to be able to trust him.

MULLIN: Progressivism is now spreading through both parties.

CHILDREN: Mmmm. Mmmm. Mmmm. Barack Hussein Obama.

VELEY: These kids were, most likely, by the looks in that video, no older than 10 years old. Probably younger. They had, most likely, no idea what they were singing about there.



BECK: That is - that's Connor and Jason. Where are you from?


BECK: And this is a local cable access show?


BECK: And I mean, you are talking progressivism but then you call it "The Factor.:

MULLIN: Yes, yes. We know. Our first inspiration is Bill O'Reilly.


BECK: Amazing. Amazing. You have no shot of ever kissing a girl. But I said to you before we went on - I said, are you using chalkboards and you're going to start using a whiteboard.

MULLIN: Yes, we have a whiteboard in there. It's a small one, but we'll be able to put it to good use somehow.

BECK: Good. So what I said to you is, can you guys teach something on the chalk board. So Jason, over here. Connor, over here. Go ahead. I'm going to have you guys - look at this. They went to the green room and they wrote it on the back of a plate.

And so they're going to teach something here in just a second on the blackboard. I want to - while they're doing that, I want to talk to you guys a little bit about the education dollars.

Student loans have been nationalized. That's amazing to me. Most Americans don't even know that is a huge complete takeover of the educational system. Who feels passionately on that? Yes, sir?

SAGAR VACHHANI, NYU COLLEGE REPUBLICANS: I am just shocked that it passed and I think it's a terrible idea. I think it's just going to create a vicious cycle where (UNINTELLIGIBLE) - where the government has now given increased the amount of aid available.

And students will take it. And the educational institutions will be allowed to raise their prices on tuition and they'll make more money.

BECK: Well, you know what? But it doesn't go deeper than that. I mean, for instance, you tried to get a grant from the United States government to do any kind of research against global warming. You can't do it? I mean, doesn't this have another impact?

DEREK ROY, STUDENT, WESTERN CONNECTICUT UNIVERSITY: It infuriates me. Another problem is, too - they are now paying back your student loans if you work for the government for a couple years.

Why can't they pay back your student loans or let you pay them back? Or if they were to pay them back for you, only if you started your own business or if you worked in the private sector?

BECK: But what they're saying is that it leads you to serve, that's why they're paying it back. Katie?

MANZI: The implication there is that if I don't work for the government and if I'm not carrying out my executive policies, I'm not serving.

And so, you know, the $300 a month that I'm paying, you know, I deserve to pay it less than - more than the other guys because I'm not serving, because I'm stimulating the economy. But like you said, starting a business.

DANILOV: I actually work for an online marketing company that works with for-profit schools (UNINTELLIGIBLE). And they're terrified of what is going on because - part of me that fears of it - it's kind of social engineering. It's picking winners and losers, because they are going to say, "Well, we don't need this right now. You're not getting a loan for us. You're not going to go to school. You're not going to be a journalist because - here it is.


BECK: Journalists aren't even journalists anymore, though. How many of you accepted a trophy for participating? You did? How many - I notice you're kind of like, hang on a second. Where are you going with this?

Where I'm going with this is, it's rough. I mean, we're a meritocracy. That's what Thomas Jefferson - that's what made us different. You don't get a trophy for participating. You get a trophy if you've earned a trophy. You can participate all you want, but you get a trophy if you deserve the trophy.

How many of your peers believe now because of what we've created as your parents, I mean, trying to make life easier for you?

How many people now in your circle of friends believe that they deserve a free ride? They deserve the corner office? They deserve them?

DAN CASTORINA, COLLEGE OF STATEN ISLAND: Excuse me. I go to the College of Staten Island in the CUNY System. And well, most of these students believe that it's their right to be there. And some of them are like, you know, the government pays for their whole college career. For mine, I paid for it with loans and stuff. But they feel like they're entitled to it.

BECK: I paid for mine, too. How many people think that education is a right?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Higher education. I think that we need to provide a good foundation for people. But beyond that, they need to excel and take it upon themselves to advance themselves as best as they can.

BECK: Back in just a second and we'll find out what is on the chalkboard.


BECK: All right. I want to introduce you to Connor and Jason who are doing a cable access show, "The Junior Factor." And they're adding in a white board. And so I said, well, "Why don't you guys teach a lesson?" Jason, you're up first. Teach the lesson.

VELEY: This is the goal of the show. This is a diagram of we have personally observed in our school. There is an imaginary wall, if you will. There are students that have very liberal beliefs, students that have conservative beliefs that tend to be less conservative than liberal.

The conservative beliefs are out there. They are present. The students that have left views cannot see the conservative beliefs and bounce off the imaginary wall. Our goal of the show is to get rid of the wall so that they can see the conservative beliefs. So now, they have two sides of the story and then they can choose.

BECK: I'm out of a job very soon.


OK. Connor, you're 15 years old?

MULLIN: Sixteen.

BECK: Sixteen. And you're 15?


MULLIN: This is basically an example of what our show would look like. Basically, we take a president, analyze them, tell about them.

BECK: You're just teasing me by putting Woodrow Wilson. You're just like, you know, this is candy to Glenn. I'm going to take down Woodrow Wilson. Go ahead.

MULLIN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) because Woodrow Wilson is always considered one of the greatest presidents.

BECK: Yes, evil.

MULLIN: He is. I did a lot of research on him. And these are the four things - I have come up with 20. And he denied African-American certain rights. The Constitution was pre-modern and outdated. He promised no more, you know, America fighting World War I. His slogan was he kept us out of war. And the next he did (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

BECK: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) two months after taking office in his second term.

MULLIN: And then, the Treaty of Versailles was an instigator of World War II, one of the reasons Adolf Hitler and many Germans (UNINTELLIGIBLE) there was very, very restricted in Germany and there were communists.

BECK: Did you read the part they didn't even offer - his people didn't even offer the Germans a seat, a chair at the table?

MULLIN: We learned about it this year.

BECK: Yes, it's amazing. You learned about that in school?

MULLIN: Yes, we actually did. Actually, my social studies teacher.

BECK: Your social studies teacher? Give him praise here.

MULLIN: Mr. Mozer(ph) is a very good social studies teacher. It's a very interesting class.

BECK: If you are teaching this, Mr. Mozer(ph), I want to come take your class. Let me ask you this. Do you guys feel like you're making any difference? Do you feel like there is any movement at all?

JONATHAN CAWLEY, MEMBER, STATEN ISLAND TEA PARTY: Yes. I would say yes. I think what it requires is a lot of faith and hope. It's - what this country needs at this time is just a few good men, people who are willing to stand up and stand for what they believe in.

What this country needs now more than ever is action. It's time to quit the talking. Get up and act. For example, I'm a staff member in the Staten Island tea party. All it took was two people, Lorraine Scanni and Frank Santarpia, to get up and act and to move forward.

BECK: Does anybody feel intimidated? Because of there's the intimidation factor. I mean, I showed, I think, on Monday's show, there are now three advisors to Obama that are leading boycotts of my advertisers on this show. Advisors to the president.

You don't know what it's like until you read in the paper the president is deciding this weekend what to do about the "Glenn Beck Problem." That's pretty intimidating. Do you guys feel intimidated?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think - I think it's good. If the liberals are starting to really get worried about us, it's a sign we're succeeding. I feel it because every day you see the students sort of wary on their belief and who don't know.

You know, they have always considered themselves liberal but not because they were passionate. They're sort of starting to question and say, "What is going on?"

BECK: Right. Question - as Thomas Jefferson said, question with boldness. And if you do that, you will find out what to believe. Back in just a second.


BECK: I hope you don't mind. I would love to have you all back sometime in the future and have a longer discussion with you. Because I think you're amazing for standing up, especially at some of the colleges that you go to, standing up and then being seen on Fox.

You're going to have giant posters up. We were saying this about the tea party in the break -

EATON-WHITE: Yes, a lot of young people want to get active, you can feel free to join the Collegiate Tea Parties of America on Facebook. It's the only group there for that. And you can vent about what happens in college and organize events.

BECK: OK. This is kind of like Oprah except she gave everybody a car. Underneath your seat, you're going to find a t-shirt. Wear it with a bullet proof vest on campus. You guys represent hope and truth. Thank you very much.


BECK: From New York, good night, America.

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