Published April 28, 2009
This is a rush transcript from "On the Record ," April 27, 2009. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Stunning new developments tonight in the so-called Craigslist killer case. Did accused killer and medical student Philip Markoff also target men? A man says Markoff found him on Craigslist, and the two exchanged explicit e-mails.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I posted an ad on Craigslist under "Male for T," which stands for "Male for transsexuals."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And that's where he found you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's where he found me, correct. It would be tough for anyone to hear, to hear that your -- that your fiance is saying that he's single and looking for sex on line anonymously.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Seeing his face pop up on the news -- what did you immediately do?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I immediately went to my computer and typed his name in, and it popped right up. And I was scared like you wouldn't believe.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think this was about having fun, or do you think this may have been luring you in for a robbery?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I -- I can't -- honestly, I don't even know. I'm scared just the fact that we -- we -- I spoke with a killer.
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VAN SUSTEREN: Meanwhile, another alleged victim of the Craigslist killer told her story to "48 Hours," Trisha Leffler, allegedly attacked at a posh hotel in Boston on April 10.
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TRISHA LEFFLER, ALLEGED ATTACK VICTIM: ... to the room, and as soon as I had closed the door, I turned around. And he was standing just inside the door. When I turned around and looked at him, that's when he pulled out the gun.
I was a little nervous. Like, I immediately started shaking. Like, my heart started beating real fast.
He just told me to lie down and told me, If you just be quiet, you know, no harm's going to come to you. As soon as he tied me up, he sat back in front of me and pulled out some black leather gloves and put the black leather gloves on. And then he asked me where my money was.
It dawned on my later that he could have very well killed me the same way that he killed the other girl.
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VAN SUSTEREN: The Boston Herald also broke a story about a dramatic jailhouse visit between Markoff and his family. Joe Dwinell joins us live, city editor for The Boston Herald. Joe, what happened at this family visit?
JOE DWINELL, BOSTON HERALD: Well, we're told that he said to his brother, Forget about me. Basically, Move to California. There's more that's going to be coming out.
VAN SUSTEREN: Any idea that that more that could be coming up -- are there -- I mean, my -- of course, my imagination immediately jumps to whether or not there are more possible victims out there. Is that suspected?
DWINELL: He didn't explain. Our sources did not go into that depth. We don't know exactly what this means. It's ominous, you know, leaves you asking as many questions as you get answers in this case. But as it goes on day by day, as you just said, we're hearing about a lot more.
VAN SUSTEREN: What about this man with whom he was exchanging explicit messages? Do you know anything about this? Did he ever meet with any men in any hotel? Anyone get robbed like the two women? Of course, one woman was murdered.
DWINELL: Interesting development. What we're looking at is the e- mail address used in that alleged reaching out to each other. The e-mail is Sexaddict5385. We're taking a look at that, see where that leads us, and that could be a key in that development.
VAN SUSTEREN: What about the fiancee? Is she still standing by her man?
DWINELL: Right. Your producer just sent me a transcript of what she said today via her attorney. She is sticking by her man. She is saying that she's going to carry this through. She's going to work with the DA. She's going to work with her lawyers and Philip's lawyers and take it to the bitter end.
VAN SUSTEREN: You know -- you know, it's -- this is so bizarre because you don't think of a medical student, someone who's going into a career which is designed to save lives, is going to be running around fancy hotels, holding people up and murdering them. Is there anything more about him? When he was in college, was he ever arrested for doing anything?
DWINELL: No, we haven't heard anything about that. The stories that came out last week about, you know, he may have forced himself upon a woman, other people saying that he had -- he was short-tempered. But no, we haven't seen that he has any type of arrest record at all.
VAN SUSTEREN: I take it he has an appointed lawyer at this point, that he's made his demand for a lawyer?
DWINELL: Right. It came out today. We found in the paperwork, the court paperwork, that he's $130,000 in debt and that he has declared himself flat broke. And the taxpayers of Massachusetts must now pick up his defense bill as this is case goes forward. And under state law in Massachusetts, a defense lawyer is paid $100 an hour for a murder case. And if this gets bigger, and I'm sure it is going to, he may even get a second lawyer.
VAN SUSTEREN: Now, $130,000 in debt -- that's a significant amount of money for a man that age, but are they student loans Because then it doesn't seem so extraordinary because college is so expensive.
DWINELL: Exactly, Greta. The paperwork says that this is his student loans, that he was living off of his student loans. That's the way it was stated. He had to go through an interview process to declare you're indigent, and he was granted this. And now he has a lawyer, a pretty good one.
VAN SUSTEREN: Joe, as always, thank you, sir.
DWINELL: You're welcome, Greta.
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