This is a rush transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," December 9, 2008. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: With us now for reaction to accusations against Governor Blagojevich that he tried to sell Obama's Senate seat is the author of "Do the Right Thing," the host of "Huckabee" right here on FOX News Channel, former presidential candidate, possible future — and minister, Mike Huckabee.
See? No reaction on that.
MIKE HUCKABEE, "DO THE RIGHT THING" AUTHOR, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: No. Future host of "Huckabee" as well as current, I hope.
COLMES: I see. That's right. How — do you know the governor of Illinois? And...
HUCKABEE: Yes, we served contemporaneously, and I knew him. He didn't really participate in a lot of the, of the normal collegial activities that governors.
COLMES: Are you saying he wasn't collegial?
HUCKABEE: He was not really a mixer. Let me be charitable here.
COLMES: Clearly you're being diplomatic.
HUCKABEE: I am being diplomatic. He really was not connected well with the other governors.
COLMES: Why not?
HUCKABEE: He was a loner. I don't think he really thought that he needed the rest of us, quite frankly. There was this sort of — I think an arrogance about him.
COLMES: Are you suggesting that based on what know of him, what you heard today did not surprise you?
HUCKABEE: Not — not a whole lot.
COLMES: Why not?
HUCKABEE: Because of an attitude that did not really show a desire to be a part of sitting down with other governors and saying let's see what we needed to do to fix Medicaid, let's see what we needed to do to deal with transportation and education.
COLMES: Is it shocking that a governor of a state can do such a thing? Be found on tape saying these things that he — probably had a sense that he was being looked at anyway, given the fact that he said, hey, you know, if I'm a senator, there's less chance of impeachment? He knew he had some problems.
HUCKABEE: Well, I think so. I'm amazed that he was so blatant about it. I mean anybody's corruptible. I think we're all kidding ourselves if we're all above it. I'd like to think that we're never going to do it, because we have better sense, we have a conscience. We know we're going to answer to God, even if a prosecutor doesn't catch us.
But on the other hand, I still think that there's something that is recklessly arrogant about a guy who just flat out says I want to make sure I get something out of this. And, you know, what he's going to get out of it is a jail term. That's what he's going to come out of it.
COLMES: Have you ever — you know, knowing a lot of governors have you ever seen anything like this in your years in politics, this level of corruption?
HANNITY: This is Chicago, for crying out loud.
COLMES: I'm asking if you've ever — the question, though.
HANNITY: The New Jersey governor was having sex with strangers.
COLMES: I think the question was, have you seen this among other governors?
HUCKABEE: Well, I became governor because I was a lieutenant governor.
HUCKABEE: ... and the governor was convicted of whitewater related felonies and was forced to resign office, so the answer would be yes.
COLMES: But wait a minute, was Bill Clinton convicted of anything?
HUCKABEE: No, it was Jim Guy Tucker.
COLMES: Bill Clinton and then Jim Guy Tucker, yes.
HUCKABEE: And then me.
HANNITY: Hey, Governor.
HUCKABEE: Yes, but I was never convicted of anything.
HANNITY: Alan's question.
HUCKABEE: I wasn't even indicted.
SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: We have a New Jersey governor having sex in truck stops and book — and in bookstores with strangers, and we had a New York governor having sex with hookers, so it's pretty amazing.
All right. I want to run this tape.
HANNITY: Karl Rove and I had a little disagreement and — because Barack Obama came out today and said no, I've never spoken to the governor, never had any contact with him, but David Axelrod two weeks ago had a very different story. Let's roll that tape one more time.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DAVID AXELROD, BARACK OBAMA'S SENIOR CAMPAIGN ADVISER: I know he's talked to the governor, and you know, he's — there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced, and he's — I think he has a fondness for a lot of them.
BARACK OBAMA (D), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so we were not — I was not aware of what was happening.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Axelrod: I know he's talked to the governor. I've had no contact with the governor. That needs to be looked into, doesn't it?
HUCKABEE: The question is, was he speaking specifically about the Senate race.
HUCKABEE: ... or was he saying he had no contact?
HANNITY: He was — well, the Axelrod quote was specifically.
HUCKABEE: Was about the Senate race.
HANNITY: ... about the Senate race, and for Barack Obama to make a blanket statement, it seems pretty clear to me there's.
HANNITY: ... a major contradiction between two people who would probably know the answer to that.
HUCKABEE: The one thing I'm going to cut him some slack, Sean, is that...
HANNITY: No, no, no. No slack.
COLMES: Well, here's why.
HANNITY: No, no, no. No slack.
HUCKABEE: Barack Obama.
COLMES: Go with the slack. Go with the slack.
HUCKABEE: Barack Obama, I feel like probably is the — totally disconcerned with the appointment of the Senate seat. He has got so many things on his plate right now.
HANNITY: But wait a minute.
HUCKABEE: ... and I doubt he even remembers who he's talked to.
HANNITY: Have you read this whole document? Because.
HUCKABEE: Not all of that, no.
HANNITY: ... it talks at length, Obama had candidate "A" or candidate 1 that he wanted — and if anything the governor expressed frustration that Obama wouldn't give him anything. Now I think that's fairly exculpatory for him.
HANNITY: On the other hand there was talk about — what I was talking about with Karl where there would be favors in the future by the president- elect. So there's a lot of unanswered questions in all of this on my mind.
HUCKABEE: I think the greater issue is that the — corruptible person is the governor. I do not see that Barack Obama would be stupid enough to even worry with it.
HANNITY: All right. Why is he.
HUCKABEE: I'm just not.
HANNITY: ... friends with all these radical.
COLMES: Here we go.
HANNITY: ... corrupt people? What, what does it say about him?
HUCKABEE: Well, I think that his past relationships are certainly questionable. I still think Bill Ayers ought to be in prison.
COLMES: Didn't we have an election? Didn't we just decide all this?
HUCKABEE: Yes, we did. But I'm just talking about Bill Ayers. But Barack Obama, I don't think has any connection.
HUCKABEE: ... to the specific bribery issues.
HANNITY: You know what's interesting?
HUCKABEE: He has nothing to gain from it. Nothing.
HANNITY: Everything that we heard in the Gennifer Flowers' tapes came true.
HANNITY: I wonder if we're beginning to see, perhaps, a lot of what we suspected about Barack Obama. A lot — that I think the Tony Rezko issue is going to be a big problem for him, especially because he's all over this document. The — word president-elect is mentioned 44 times in the document.
It's pretty troubling.
HUCKABEE: But one thing let's keep in mind. You never saw the two of them out campaigning a lot together. They weren't doing a whole lot of stuff.
HANNITY: All right. Governor, thanks for being with us.
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