Ups and Downs for the Week of July 25

This is a partial transcript from "The Beltway Boys", July 30, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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FRED BARNES, CO-HOST: Let’s take a look at this week’s ups and downs.

UP: Hillary Clinton (search). She’s under fire from the far left for suggesting the Democratic Party needs to reach out to the center-right elements of the party in order to regain their competitive edge. Here’s Hillary at the Democratic Leadership Conference (search) earlier this week.


U.S. SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON (D), NEW YORK: We Democrats have not yet succeeded in isolating and defeating the far right in part because all too often, we have allowed ourselves to be split between left, right, and center.


BARNES: Juan, you know, you can’t get split, actually, between three things. But that’s Hillary’s problem. Look, it is a gift from heaven for Hillary to be attacked from the left wing of her party. She’s trying to be a moderate, and that just feeds right into it. You can’t pay for that kind of thing, it was such a gift.

Now, there was another event where Hillary showed up, and something interesting happened, where she showed up with all the female Democratic senators, and most of them were saying, If John Roberts doesn’t say that he’s for upholding Roe v. Wade (search), then we’re going to vote no on his confirmation to the Supreme Court.

Not Hillary Clinton. She said she’s still thinking about it.

JUAN WILLIAMS, GUEST CO-HOST: And the word is that she, in fact, now plans to vote for Roberts, at least that’s the back and forth. We don’t know that she hasn’t confirmed that.

But here’s the thing, Fred. I think that you have to understand, just like Republicans run to the right, Hillary is in an interesting position. She doesn’t quite want to run to the left. She’s got to reassure people in the party that she can be elected.

BARNES: Exactly, yes.

WILLIAMS: Because people think that she is a captive of the left. So she’s got to put a little distance in there. It is a gift. But I must say, if you stop and think about who her opposition will be, governors like Mark Warner, Tom Vilsack that we just saw in the video.

I think she’s going to run against people who are already occupying the middle. It’s just that she has the name recognition. And I think she’ll have the money. So that’s not going to be a problem.

OK, UP: the Fiqh Council of North America (search). This group of American Muslim scholars took a forceful stand against terrorism in the name of Islam, issuing a fatwa calling terrorists criminals, not martyrs: "There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism. Targeting civilians’ life and property through suicide bombings, or any other method of attack is haram, or forbidden.”

Fred, I got to tell you, this is overdue. This should have been happening a long time ago. People who say that they want nothing to do with terrorism, and Islam is not a faith of terrorists, they should say it. They got to stand up. And I think that, you know, in my view, it’s not just overdue. They should be having marches in the streets to separate themselves out from these terrorists. They have to take aggressive action and cooperate with law enforcement officials so that they can find out who in the community would be up for this kind of business.

Now, Fred, I know you’re going to disagree, but go right ahead.


BARNES: Yes, I, look, Juan, I disagree with you. I mean, I agree with you.


BARNES: I think we ought to get together and issue our own fatwa.

WILLIAMS: There we go.

BARNES: And, and tell them to get out in the streets and, and show that they’re not against Islam, that they are against terrorism.

I’d, I need to do one more thing. A few days ago on FOX, I criticized Dana Rohrbacher (search), you know, the congressman from California, Republican, and because I misinterpreted something he said. I thought he said the terrorism crisis is over, and the world, we don’t need a War on Terrorism. He didn’t say that, and I made a mistake, and I apologize him, to him for saying that.

On the other hand, he voted against the renewal of the Patriot Act (search). I wish he hadn’t done that.

WILLIAMS: One last thing on this, Fred.


WILLIAMS: If the, if the Muslim community in the United States wants to avoid people talking about racial profiling, people having negative opinions, they need to get ahead of this thing.


WILLIAMS: That’s why I’m so strong on this. They need to get out.

BARNES: Yes. A fatwa, that’s we’ll do. OK.

DOWN: the producers of the hit summer film "The Wedding Crashers" (search). Under protest from veterans and lawmakers, the movie will no longer make available paper medals as part of their promotional materials. The comedy features a pair of party boys who woo unsuspecting bridesmaids with their cheesy pickup lines and their Purple Heart medals. I mean, come on, a Purple Heart you get when you’ve been wounded.


BARNES: You know, you had your legs blown off or something. It shouldn’t be used as movie gimmick.

WILLIAMS: Well, look, Fred, let’s not take it too seriously.

BARNES: No, I’m not.

WILLIAMS: This is summer fluff.


WILLIAMS: In fact, I think we’re doing a favor to the producers of this movie by talking about it here.


WILLIAMS: But, you know, I think what’s more interesting is, if you stop and think about someone like our friend Jane Fonda (search).


WILLIAMS: Now, Jane Fonda says she is going to launch a bus tour. And I might tell you, Fred, you better not drive behind it, because it’s going to be filled with vegetable oil, it’ll smell like McDonald’s everywhere you’re driving behind that bus.


WILLIAMS: But anyway, she’s going to have this bus with the vegetable oil, and it’s going to be a tour of opposition to the war in Iraq.


WILLIAMS: She said that she’s been on her bus tour.


WILLIAMS: And I was out in New Mexico, and she was in town, so she says that on her bus, so she runs into veterans who say it’s time for somebody to lead the opposition to the war.


WILLIAMS: And Jane Fonda thinks it’s her. But I got to tell you, is she the wrong person for this?

BARNES: She must be the world’s most un-self-aware person.

WILLIAMS: Got to be.

BARNES: I mean, if she thinks she’s right about that.

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