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BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the Personal Story segment tonight, we have always thought there's something very disturbing about the Gary Condit situation beyond what we know. And now a new book offers some lurid revelations about Congressman Condit.
Joining us now from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, is David Wright, one of the authors of the new book Sex, Power, and Murder; Chandra Levy and Gary Condit, the Affair That Shocked America.
All right. What's the headline of the book?
DAVID WRIGHT, CO-AUTHOR, "SEX, POWER, AND MURDER": The theme of the book is how Chandra Levy was swept up in the -- a romance with a man who was basically a sexual predator.
O'REILLY: And in what way was he a predator? Did he harm women?
WRIGHT: Well, I -- let me take you back 30 years to the defining story about Gary Condit. He -- at that time, he was 24 years old, he was already in politics. He was a city councilman. And he and another city councilman were walking through the Tenderloin area of San Francisco. They'd been attending a conference.
And they turned a corner, and there were some hookers waving down men in cars, and Gary Condit out of the blue just blurted out, "Women!" disgustedly and said, "I think they're there to be used, abused, and disposed of," and he'd managed to do that pretty successfully for the next 30 years.
O'REILLY: So he was basically a serial sexual guy who had a series of relationships with younger women primarily where he would just dispose of them when he got tired of them?
WRIGHT: Exactly. I mean, it all...
O'REILLY: All right.
WRIGHT: It usually ended in tears, but he always managed to successfully get rid of the women and, at the same time, maintain this very conservative button-down congressman image.
O'REILLY: Yes, but his wife basically stayed in California and let him do what he wanted to do. I mean, that's the kind of marriage that a lot of politicians have.
Now, interestingly enough, in your book, you say Chandra Levy was also serially involved with older men. This wasn't her first affair with a guy like that.
WRIGHT: No, she was first involved -- when she was a teenager, she was first involved with a cop who was 29, 30 years old in her hometown in Modesto, and she had high hopes of becoming the cop's wife. That didn't work out. He dumped her.
Later, she had an affair with a doctor in Sacramento. He dumped her as well.
And that was a progression because he was also married.
O'REILLY: And much older than she was?
WRIGHT: He was much older than she was, and there was absolutely no doubt that -- she made no secret of the fact that she preferred older men to young boys.
O'REILLY: OK. Now you don't come to any conclusion about her murder in your book, do you?
WRIGHT: No, we don't. There's a grand jury sitting and a police investigation, and I think that's best left to them. But we certainly establish that Chandra was becoming certainly an inconvenient woman as far as Gary Condit was concerned.
O'REILLY: How so?
WRIGHT: Well, all the other women Gary Condit had been involved with had gone quietly. I'll say there had been tears and scenes, but they'd gone -- they'd vanished pretty quietly.
Chandra, by all accounts, from a very early age, from her childhood, was someone who all her friends say never took no for an answer. She really -- if she went for something, she pursued it to the end. And she had made up her mind, there's no doubt about it, that she was going to be Mrs. Gary Condit.
She talked about them having a five-year plan where they would keep their illicit romance secret for five years and by then he would have divorced and they would get married. Now I doubt for a moment Gary Condit had intended to do that, but that's certainly the impression he'd given her.
O'REILLY: All right. Now it's just almost inconceivable a sitting congressman would, you know, kill a young woman, and there's been all kinds of rumors about Condit's associates. They might have been unsavory. Did you turn anything up in that area?
WRIGHT: Well, when he -- the great contrast between his conservative Washington image and -- when he left Washington, he ran with bikers and chased women, and, as a member of the House Intelligence Committee, he certainly was in a position to know a lot of people in Washington.
O'REILLY: Right. That's for sure.
All right, Mr. Wright. We appreciate it. Book is interesting. Something the matter with this Condit guy. There's no question about that.
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