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" A once secret report leaked to the Los Angeles Times newspaper and at the heart -- it is this. The CIA program reportedly sending hundreds of millions of dollars to Pakistan's. Intelligence agencies and notorious ISI. Now the report says the CIA has given millions maybe hundreds of notes to the inner service intelligence agency since. The September 11 attacks. For everything from operations to rewards for information on known or suspected terrorists and newspaper says. Many government officials believe the program is indeed working and working well and saving taxpayers. Millions in the long run critics say. They're still very suspicious of the ISI the Pakistani intelligence there deeply concerned that some inside the agency may be. Secretly supporting extremists the talent on the al-Qaeda what is now Bob -- Former CIA operative and author of the double we -- Bob good to see you. Great honor I think the only thing that's surprising is that this got leaked. You're not surprised that the CIA. Is doing this -- no not at all mean it's it's."

" If it's a fairly obvious program getting the pakistanis to go after al-Qaeda which indeed is in the border areas. We can't send their own troops up there we can't even send agents out there. With the pakistanis would have -- the heart lifting so. Getting paying them to do it doesn't surprise me and there's nothing illegal about this the best I can tell if fact it's you know something that we've done in America. Since the wild west I mean it's essentially bounty hunting we're gonna pay folks to rat out the bad guys and then. In in Pakistan especially in the tribal belt. We we send in at the predator drones to launch attacks against those bad guys or we try to bus them might. It's the complete absolute legal it's clear with congress. It's important the judiciary the Department of Justice in the rest of it. It's that it's in -- of the longstanding program to get other people that do are. Hunting for us but the question is what do we get for it and wouldn't you know we know that they cut college Sheikh Mohammed. -- that we actually paid money for that I don't know but -- there are some successes. There are rogue elements of the ISI and this is what I think some people would be concerned about that they are sympathetic. Two. Tell bonds now Qaeda and other nefarious groups and you know it is not inconceivable mobbed at American taxpayer money. Could end up aiding the enemy fighting. Our troops right. Oh absolutely this money once we give it to Pakistan needs is unaccountable they're just know why we have no idea where -- There's a large part of -- outside its ports that column on ideologically with money with weapons. And I have no doubt that this money is still finding its way into the hands of al-Qaeda or at least the column on there's just no question about I mean no I know a lot of these ISI officers. They're very sympathetic to the column on -- they're not on our side in Afghanistan. The question is what do we do. To find -- this money's going and there's not a whole lot. -- he can't send an American accounting firm in their to do an audit I mean is there are some mechanism any at all however crude bomb. In which you can get at least a general. Estimate of how the money's being used and where it's going. We'll only know if they go ahead and take Osama bin Laden and his deputy that's only counting can ever have -- What we see the end of the day in between. There is no way. Bob I'm me. Switch subjects ever so slightly still on the subject of terrorism. What do you think of the notion of trying some -- no suspects in American civilian course. A court specifically. New York federal court. You're opening a can of worms first of all because you've got the whole issue of enhanced interrogations. What was the source of these confessions that they come before the interrogation after. The defenses can ask to see the tapes there were 92 tapes made of the interrogations I believe they've -- been destroyed. You in the problem of bringing CIA officers and putting them before the court to explain what happened. It's a can of worms and I've yet to see from the Department of Justice how there could handle it. And I'm -- this question of how would shake Mohammed the mastermind. For many years was was being hidden by the governments in the gulf our allies is that gonna come out. You know I'd like to see it come out what you know how are they gonna limit this."

" Well and you can bet that the federal rules of evidence were not being followed with the evidence was gathered on the battlefield by non law enforcement individuals. So I can envision a lot of that evidence being tossed out inadmissible excluded we're gonna be targeted judge Janet Napolitano an attack come."