The No Spin Zone

" Islands and welcome. On the show bill is on the phone nice of you to join us this morning on the big show bill -- guys -- doing."

" Doing great film -- for joining us so we wanna start by talking about the music has really consumed everyone this weekend and that is the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is coming here. To New York to be tried in a civilian court -- federal court here you have Geraldo had a dairy. Fiery exchange about this and it's because you disagree it sounds like with this idea are you comforted up at all by -- all those points. Or Eric Holder the attorney general's point that. We successfully tried terrorist here in New York before and convicted then -- nothing's gone wrong."

" Well it doesn't really matter. Is anything went wrong no logistically. With the trial the trial gave al-Qaeda and the terrorist to propaganda value. And everybody knows the blind -- that was convicted of the first. World Trade Center bombing the lawyers got out there and they put the United States on trial that helped al-Qaeda al-Qaeda actually admits that. So look. Although I think loss to debate on now Friday night when he said he was taken Hermann Goering a second in command and that's Third Reich and tried it Nuremberg. Before he committed suicide he would've taken him to New York City for trial. So although clearly doesn't make a distinction between actual war and cross."

" Well I -- thing to me doesn't hold up either because bringing New York -- made much sense Nuremberg was the site where the Nazi party was started and founded in those ideas of the final solution grew out of Nuremberg so maybe in that backyard was maybe what her all the was trying to --"

" You there in the shadow of I don't know what he was trying to settle for all that I respect his opinion even on this. -- And and and holder the attorney general's clueless I mean this is the guy who. Ram right on the mark rich pardon the last -- Bill Clinton's term I mean this guy is really dangerous this holder. The attorney general I don't know where he's coming from the -- gonna take maybe four -- five years gonna cost tens of millions of dollars. The lawyers are gonna get in there and they're gonna try the Bush Administration the CIA waterboarding that's what's gonna be on trial Michael you -- have a really admitted he did it."

" Yeah we talk with Karl -- about that yesterday bill I'm curious -- you've got the issued you discuss with money with providing a platform for terrorists their safety concerns for New York City what is your biggest concern though. About holding this in a criminal court. Here in New York."

" It becomes -- circus and in hurt the nine elevenths family. I'd like she's somebody take a poll of 9/11 cameras and think if they think this is a good idea I will tell you I think 80% of them think this is an abomination."

" Well what how many people think this is an abomination trying to bring gitmo detainees to Illinois we're hearing word that the White House may be considering bringing. Detainees some 200 of them Al about a 160 miles west of Chicago I believed to Thompson. Correctional facility which is vacant right now. Some say look -- bring about 3000 jobs to this area's been decimated the economy there is in the toilet. They're saying we don't want these guys in our backyard what do you say about this bill."

" Well I don't really care much about that. I I think the Guantanamo Bay facility has been used -- anti American propaganda I understand that. I think that the Bush Administration should have been much quicker and Chinese people for the military tribunal and gotten them convict he quickly. So this wouldn't happen. They didn't they get ahead Karl Rove told me. Thursday that he was held up to the Bush Administration has held up like challenges in this -- how much. Sure I'd buy that I think they dragged their feet on it but look -- and a close get mall and you get a -- of the Illinois the -- nowhere. And nobody else is there you're gonna put him in that facility I don't really care about that. But the propaganda value of a circus trial like got Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that's gonna on the nation."

" I've -- let's talk about some big media news this week. Lou Dobbs longtime anchor at CNN. Announced that he was resigning let's play a moment of that."

" This will be my last broadcast here on CNN groundwork for morals -- the past thirty years. Tomorrow I have many friends and colleagues whom I admire. Deeply and respect greatly. I'm the last of the original thinkers here on CNN I'm proud to have had the privilege of helping to build the world's first news network."

" He's not a Sydney in very controversial -- on CNN you're going to be interviewing him on Monday what are you gonna ask them."

" Well dobbs get a commodity back here tomorrow night as you mentioned and you know basically I I think that what happened there. Was this. Driven by a dobbs is anti illegal alien posture. -- I could be wrong about that and certainly an eight. I can define it. But I I think that CNN that it felt very uneasy because CNN lot of local viewers. With dobbs day in day out pound in. The illegal alien deal so that you're gonna start and what you would he says but it should be very illuminating this is the first interview done is going to be given. Some of the -- to."

" Yeah should be interesting. Lot of speculation some say he might run for senate some say he might be coming here even if Fox Business Network so. To quote you what say you what is -- we're --"

" Are offered in my job and I'll retire but I don't know -- okay. Nobody -- he added that kind of stuff like that no problem yeah no way out of."

" Apple will make you jump -- this next topic I want to hear what -- I want to hear your thoughts on this of course Sarah Palin. Coming out of the new book she's been working on it for quite awhile and it's out now. It and she's why -- with ghost writer as well. And it's slams isn't surprising revelations and -- bill because you know there's not a lot of liberal bar is being thrown by the by the Palin camp in this but a lot of them directed at the McCain campaign. In this book going robo what do you think about this --"

" She well get her on the factors Thursday Friday and the following Monday this this Cummings. Thursday this coming Friday in the minutes following Monday nights and you share some of the guests with -- Well and equipment we can show. But -- did I read the book my I think is an interesting book I think governor pounds and -- purse. I wanna get to the bottom of what happens. In. Certain examples. -- in certain situations in the campaign might say a lot because I don't wanna. -- tell everybody what questions and and and a split. The interview is more. Like -- bombing interview that I did with him. It's it's trying to get to Knoll. Sarah Palin in a way that hasn't been shown before. So that's very specific questions to the governor. About what happened to her why it happened and then. How she sees the country right now how she sees the world right now. So we're sitting out prolong the deal this is gonna be a long interview with power. And I I'm just really looking forward to -- I like her. I think she was treated unfairly. Brutally by the media and then I wanna you -- wanna know why she thinks they -- after -- hog wild wide. You don't Geraldine Ferraro never got that you -- YE what you didn't -- Geraldine Ferraro running for vice president and Sarah Palin running for vice president what's the difference why why did. Why did Palin get so much up for -- got a little bit but not like you're doing."

" I had billion she's -- got a bit of a curious book tour right now in that she's spending a lot of time in small towns in Ohio and Indiana. And this Virginia and lord -- again but she's avoiding places like New York City what do you think is really going on here."

" Well I think Sarah Palin has political aspirations. In the future I could be wrong about that as well certainly gonna get into that wind power. How she sees herself. The evolving. So we're gonna ask you about that and then she's playing to a strengthening when I I've sold a lot of books in my career. And where you -- always wear the audiences. Yeah the audiences in these places so that's where Sarah Palin is going got shouldn't shock anybody who she's called real America that I had to -- that I mean those people are gonna. Gonna respond to her and they're gonna buy her book. Now it -- when I put up my next book of my going to San Francisco to sell it I'm not gonna go there. I'm so it's huge. Also what it would sure what the media does Sarah Palin is everything a woman does they'd blow off. It is some kind of sinister motivation. That's the bottom line on. But the real fascinating question is why. Why would they do it well even."

" Like the current interview which she answered questions about this weekend and she -- it is seen with Oprah she even had trouble -- answering that question about the Couric interview which many people I think even including yourself so it was a fair interview -- was. She wasn't she wasn't coming after her like a pit bull in any sort of looking better -- over her."

" in the book. Sarah Palin says that she booted the interview I'm issued a brought about -- booted it it was and one of her finest moments now. Why she -- it will will discuss that. But it did look to me in reading the book. But they were overloading of her bonds say this say that he did say that don't say this don't say that that's what happened to President Bush. They would overload a month so much stuff that. They get in there any forget batter hey don't be thinking about instead answering your questions. Continue about what he should say. Rather than speaking from the heart that's would look to me. Now I did speak to Katie Couric a Friday night. About how that interview. I have to you don't want a dumb dumb crap -- you know -- that's what they've we do here that we pressed. He's and out I tell you which he called me but you know it would adjusting from Katie Couric supported view how she saw the interview and we'll discuss them."

" We're we're -- the governor as well we're looking forward to that interview as well as interview with Lou Dobbs tomorrow night. And the folks out there are thrilled because Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly are also going on tour around the country as well well aren't they should be no well also I cops searched."

" I'm right. Mom I'm frightened about this -- The -- trust to work the the though he had some bold fresh to -- we just don't look at the fourth -- to gonna do Tampa. As South Carolina -- Carolina Norfolk Virginia and what's very out in Long Island. Just for fun we just don't look fine and -- what instrument do you play. I'm an embarrassment back and yeah."

" And they're not going to close these districts can you believe the elements that I'm sorry -- like your biggest to a noise. That's why is the most watched show on television wants cable news that is Bill O'Reilly to host the O'Reilly Factor Lou Dobbs on Monday Sarah Palin would just learning at the end of the week on a Monday well. Soundtrack -- thanks so much for waking up and you have. Okay guys thank you I."