'Hell to Pay'

" Well on the amendment introduced by Michigan congressman Bart Stupak and included in the house's version of the health care reform. Is he thorn in the side of some Democrats and now congressman Stupak is warning his fellow Democrats not to take. His amendment out or change any of the language to effectively make -- Mellon -- this of course is about abortion he says if they do so there will be quote hell to pay."

" Ralph Reed is the former executive director of the Christian coalition founder of the faith and freedom coalition he joins us this morning good morning to you Ralph. Good morning had to be witty and good to have you there are reports that there was kind of a back room deal Nancy Pelosi saying now we're gonna take this language out in conference don't worry about just agree with -- now. Might this entire health care package fall apart over one issue abortion. "

" Well I think we're on the verge of of a civil war breaking out in the Democratic Party over this issue and and I I have to tell you it's really interesting because it turned conventional wisdom on its head. The conventional wisdom in Washington has always been that this issue was a liability -- the Republican Party because it allegedly turned off. Moderate and women voters I never bought into that conventional wisdom I've never seen that borne out polling. But what's actually happening now is this has become a huge liability to the Democratic Party you had 64. Democrats. Count on 64. Roughly one out of every four members of that caucus. Who who voted for -- And if they try to play games and take that language. Out of the bill in a conference committee should it pass the Senate and I don't think that's. -- sure thing by the way I think at least half of them will vote against the bill on final passage it is ironic. Did an issue that is barely been mentioned for the last year and a half for two years there could be the issue that Singh's health care reform."

" And of course what we're talking about here is this language big guaranteed that no federal dollars would go towards finding. Abortion so as you said these dozens of Democrats signed on to the health care bill once that was. Inserted but there's no guarantee of what will happen when they try to strike this compromise. With this that it so what just constant Stupak mean when he says they'll be held today. I."

" He means Alison exactly what I just said that he will lead a charge to defeat the bill on final passage in one. You know Washington may be an island of fancy surrounded by a -- of reality. But even they can read DePaul -- results from the New Jersey and Virginia elections. And pro life Catholic governor elected in New Jersey Chris Cristi. Bob McDonnell a pro family pro life -- apologetically so by the way gubernatorial candidate in Virginia elected in a landslide. Caring every district have every Virginia blue dog there about 10% of the total we're talking about. -- average margin of twenty points so these Democrats understand the wind has shifted. And I personally think that this is on the verge of being a family feud that it doesn't matter if you get hairy -- Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama around a table in the Roosevelt room of the White House I don't see how they square this circle. Because either -- Barbara Boxer in the Senate foray Bart Stupak and the house is gonna blow this fill up if they don't get their way on the abortion issue. Should be as she did the bad debate lies ahead route three we appreciate it. Have a good evaluated when you thank you."