Panel Plus: 11/15

" Welcome to FOX News Sunday panel plus the Bill Kristol Mara Liasson Liz Cheney and Juan Williams and one of the joys of this segment is that we do get to continue the conversation. The because of all those commercials were not able to continue on TV. Liz what more do you wanna say about this idea of the trials."

" Well you know I think -- we really need to look very closely the administration is. Fond of talking about how well we're sure they won't escape as though that is the big security concern people -- when we're talking about bringing tariffs on American soil. But escape isn't the issue that you can look back at a track record first of all you gotta worry about radicalization in US prisons. In -- look at it Richard Reid the shoe bomber. Who's been held at the -- and Conrad are now since 2002. He was held under any special restrictive measures that limited we could talk to -- we could meet with complained about -- you know what those -- my constitutional rights to Bratz suit in court. The Obama administration's response was to -- we'll just let those measures expire. So so they're giving people a false sense of security about their willingness frankly -- their ability to hold these terrorists in the situation in which they can guarantee they won't radicalize the population. There's also a long history of terrorists from inside US presence in of the 1993 World Trade Center attack was planned from inside -- state --"

" Why -- I mean look there are I think you would agree a number of down -- there is the possibility of is another attack -- downtown that this creates in effect a red flag for terrorist. That intelligence will be late that they'll get off that is Liz says that they'll be radicalization and something goes on inside the presence. Is the upside. The the statement we make is it worth ovals potential downsides when you could put him in a military commission and have a much greater likelihood of a conviction and have more control over them."

" Yeah it without a doubt it's worth -- if you believe in the constitution of the United States and the rule of law. Clearly these are people whom. The Supreme Court has said even if you were to hold them at Guantanamo have a right to challenge under habeas corpus -- fact that they're being held up that's the Supreme Court of the United States. In addition to which what you have here's the situation with this -- this -- all it's like Obama administration or the Democrats who were so. Reckless but of course it with the bush Cheney administration who allowed I think more than eighty such indictments to be brought against people who are accused of --"

" If I had not issued -- wind is a huge difference the bush Cheney administration. Built Guantanamo and recognize that these are not criminals that these are enemy combatants -- illegal enemy combatants in the."

" Thing is it. Where you want I don't know crimes overseas tension between the enemy combatants and overwhelmingly the Obama administration is leaving those people there or to the -- you know --"

" Let alone are -- are cognizant and said that if for some reason. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is not convicted although it sounds like the attorney general has high confidence that he will be he still can be held indefinitely. --"

" Not the message -- that sentence if he's acquitted big. And Missouri are either not guilty and then what nobody that he's acquitted and then the I didn't that I had a terrible outcome Marshall has you don't want that -- yet I."

" I think that would be a terrible outcome but the fact is. That they have made a decision to try some of these terrorists in military tribunals some of them are going to be tried in federal -- And I think this is -- definitely risks it could be a show trial there could be all sorts of of may be technical snafus but I do think. That other terrorists haven't tried successfully in criminal courts and there's no reason why he also --"

" It's gonna be discussed -- circus a it's not going to do it didn't Sally how are mr. Brockman and is that the Moussaoui stop major hassle if you decide to become a Jihad -- heard our manager Ron I don't think it helped so what's the why take the risk in this case. He Obama himself has said. Military commissions or appropriate their constitutional want this notion that military commissions this the same day or cauldron after 75 other people to it is the risk is. Eating extremely high risk in my -- all five -- victims Arafat growth probably got the death penalty in the front seven cases are going to a few years it'll be a circus. And for what we're doing -- sport. Exit makes the Obama makes Eric Holder feel better that it's happening in New York where he grew -- up and and and that somehow the indicates the rule of law military commissions syndicate -- he's sending people to military commissions. What's the point if you think people to military commissions obviously decision that's been made here. About the value of having this trial in New York City in an American court and saying that we can't convict these people for what is a what I think holders describes the crime of the century that's a wonderful description what was the last -- of the century. What was left of the -- OJ Simpson. That was. For that crime of the century it's disgusting to me it believes that term line crime of the century -- the surface. It's always I think you probably can't always tell you -- the -- tabloid show trials and how he thinks this is how great we have we -- ocean network diagram you OJ Simpson dropped. And yeah. Now we're gonna have another OJ Simpson trial in New York you mistake the magnitude of the crime was committed here and what -- about America. -- about American values and this is that's -- a restatement of American values in the baseline and obviously a lot of authority was mildly authority totally invested in -- as the host of the show. -- Cheney got the final word."

" It it is that completely inappropriate and dangerous to keep on crime it wasn't a crime. College -- Mohammed is not a criminal he is an enemy combatant -- this -- a terrorist attack they declared war on America. If you're enemy is waging war against you and all you're doing is issuing indictments you're gonna lose the war it is not an effective way to they're not."

" Yeah I I I knew he wouldn't let her get the last. Thank you panel. And please check in -- FOX News Sunday dot com throughout the week tell us what you think of our debate. We'll see an -- on."