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Navajo Code Talkers

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Navajo Code Talkers

Published: Thu, 12 Nov 2009

Description: Bill Toledo and Frank Willetto, two of the famed Navajo Code Talkers, tell Alan the fascinating story behind their covert role in World War II

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" Can you tell me mr. Toledo what does that what does that code talker what. What is this what are we talking about."

" A code talker is. Language are now more tries. -- During world war two. And we use this code. On the battlefield. In the South Pacific. When."

" Ferraro -- mall Pall mall on them off. And as Japanese. Broke don't push as cold. -- So -- noon. Or doing. So we're in you have bad shape -- so marine corps. We're looking for another cold there's a more secure your. And the they wanted to find another code that system more secure than. There was a man. And Amanda was. The grew up one no -- land when there was a little boy and you learn to cold. No body language. In his don't want that his idea. We do that came about two years studio -- cold and then non. Britain and after the after that happened in on and a DL -- countries. That's yes that's the to use our language as a cold. Can help them in the war. You'd -- emerge in a war yes -- strong. No wrong since we're having -- Museum and you bill. We're asking in that country to help us share so it's just -- just turn -- will help you know."

" It's about time to give back yes and this is after they -- they broke all the other attempts to communicate they were not able to Japanese are able to break through every kind of communication until. The -- is what 29 original people. Right there -- 29 people who ultimately and who knew this and then only right now maybe a hundred people around who still have this knowledge and information. Her daughter Barbara are less than a hundred -- here and you are credited mr. Leno with wins because of the ability to communicate in this code. Helping us some plant their flag and he would jima and and what you would then you're adding he saw the play was simple play basically these are the flight be planted in the ass. So that what that was quite a moment."

" Where he would we saw the down. A smaller flag was raised first. Yeah. -- or my division's third marine division was were referred to reserve. And downstream marine through marine division landed on unknown viewers you march 4 and fifth lender first well. February 19 1940s what was that moment like when you -- Who were really. Decided to see excited to see the flag up on almost all Boschee. To yourself -- feeling about it you know that we're we're here. Because some allies and share ideas you Navajo yes Salmonella mr."

" Let your Navajo PSA and as well. How -- this code developed in. You know as some information has now come out they declassified it as I understand it's just a few years ago."

" Well. -- it wishes sells for his. Years and years older. And now. Then sandwiched and have always speak. Is -- it. Other language. But when you. When do you. One their first quarter and nine away and they're letting it end. And made it into cold. -- where there is -- ABC in English. Early in now long haul if the word and Navajo began within any English that would relate to a word. And they would use different words that began when they -- no the worsening word would get used over and over in his -- and there is some words that you can use that Georgia say. Oh let's say fox. You can say that. But. There are some words that you can you can nets I say fox and -- is unique to say. And FO -- So if that debt is something that. Our own have always couldn't understand."

" Even that close mr. Toledo couldn't understand couldn't break the code here know or horse terrorists around -- or tribe and neither -- according break it. That's really really amazing you were you have to go to school with two. Can order cold and it was never written down right mr. Leno there was no no it was not install -- memorize. Our own computer on her head. It has not saying there. And mr. -- you're saying you're actually once mistaken for Japanese and taken prisoner during the war is that correct progress currently that's what happened."

" Well. -- on non -- bill and on February 1 phenomenon. November 1 not to enforce the three. And as a rule where events in his -- jungle. One of the dollar -- man in our of the time battalion was walking without us with the communication. And group. And then the rest of their Frontline troops were ahead of us. And this so Iraq from a song -- it -- walker would. Communications group announced. He saw though as the Japanese. -- you poke around -- Romo back and told her to raise my hand. And Rashad -- determinant through or retired commander hoosiers nearby annoy enough. His -- there commanders that. His fondest Japanese walking among the Marines and hardware and very close. Cancer in dogs attacked and who says she's a marine general Doug you're infiltrating and then off. And then. Commanders told them that. You know are you doing among the communication guru Bruce force to be in the front line. A lot of truth -- is better get your -- medical Rivera. And -- that is just -- this -- go we know our courses are men in all sort at this time. You turned your overall. All radio man there's as the -- for dialogue partners you know. His turn to him like this without me knowing that and they became my bodyguard he. And by the farm on total bought 43 years after the war standoff on other it was a whole body -- well as I went to visit him on. And now they -- used to live. And his still his -- and of rewards and on and on his cause there was somewhat to check com and invited to take him 43 years to a given that piece of information well I did this and how they're not live in their Macs are cool. Who lives in California."

" Well -- and heavy -- 43 years ago. The committee -- That there are 200 terms mr. -- I understand it there which grew over to 600 by the end of the war. So you had to know this by by heart and by Roche you had to know all these words. But they were the enemy."

" Has surged. Days there's no way -- care -- paper they wouldn't let us -- day so we just had to memorize everything and remember. Every word debt debt to that was made."

" And were they -- it was because it immediately be able to translate because in the old days before you before this code was instituted. It would take a long time to decipher what the old code wasn't so you're able to get information quickly that was part of the reason this was able."

" To work so well right well. Number one. There where to move. -- talkers in each company which is. Thirty man. And airs it on each one of these companies. They have there two man. So. 11. Guy everywhere and trying to wearing their phone and and -- guides us. -- Donna what -- sent to the court he years in here repeats it uses this guy. -- has a notebook. And any ratchet down. And annoying you're ratchet down -- already do quoted. So all they do is turned over to their commander or where you whoever's forcing go to."

" And the kind of information you're able to convey his troop movements and and plan some things like that."

" Well that's that's that's hole of the hole or the other talk about lot of a lot of secrecy. This where is so secret. That our own -- now able. There were captured on Philippines. Could not understand it because we were talking about -- Birds and bees in the creation and they don't know what into Canada but that is you could hit it couldn't put it to get there. So they must fill out ahead strategy on on right in the area where you get out and I invited Japanese yes his -- still alive language right. Had already out why are you there is being given to us. All be I don't know years and years ago and we still. Hall packed in the United States now having those are there and that that well then that's come -- or as -- 300000. -- threat now. In this country in this kind they all speak the language and well some. -- Some of our students. Their version and wishes English. And and later on when days get on to college then you start. Trying to learn novel yeah -- what torture is very it's our right."

" We -- talking with the I've never who cut no code talkers. Frank will -- don't you just heard in bill Toledo. What do you think of the Nicolas Cage movie did you see that they called it when talking which is another right -- Right did you see that."

" Yes and went -- her dream premiere. In Los Los Angeles. Somewhere new and Hollywood ideas. And I couldn't believe. Exactly why. That movie was made that way. Because. There were only about three seconds where and it could talk a wise and sending a message yeah and Dan and Dave knows that we we didn't know. We didn't know is it. We were supposed to be shot if we can't be beat capture. We didn't know that really really so law. -- you saw today in the Indy movie this guy throws the a grenade underwear again either in noble sports to be. Told -- straightened her branding their Japanese friends -- premium."

" Where that's amazing. One last point I wanna make which is that you were not honored to with a hero's welcome. Because there was a military secret too important to divulge. Back then so at the end of the war you never got the welcome you deserve to know -- now thankfully time has passed and so many Oregon don't get to see. The accolades coming your way now but there's toward this effort to get a museum is they're not. They're all in these -- are yes."

" In a way. I know my way under lieutenant they gave me in my discharge. He just told me forget every -- to learn. In their Marines. Go back and start where you left all four and and start your life again. And I never saw anything about it in fact I'll work with. Other -- Coach who ensure. Code talkers and I didn't even know that. And 1968. When now President Reagan big -- got elected. And he. Want it all he's Navajo code talkers thank you mean -- governor of California relate to governor Californians sixties that that money was elected president. -- beautiful when he became president yeah breaking a present when he was elected president. Yes okay. So. That's going gators are hiding down. They're they're guys that we're working. In -- as a code talker. On our application only states some of them say. Communication. Does all of that saarc charter I say my own debt we've got bill is discharge papers afterwards -- war. Banana and other issues can come out and then more information come at any awards owner of five years after the war they finally said these -- novel quote -- Well and so view the museum in the news and he is. Is being built is about to be built through the other -- is now being planned and then we hope that we. More people well -- out but I. Correct no Taylor -- he's started. You know a donation. It -- their people or -- he started that so we plan to have our. The museum and Jeff and Steve somethin' for our young people to. Ride through Noelle what really happened. Over 5060 years ago."

" And that's you can go to Navajo code talkers dot org to get my information mr. Toledo mr. little an honour to meet both of you know. Thank you on this veterans day for talking to us and and for reservist or country no I very much welcome you're welcome."

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