Change of Heart

" Unresolved problem segment tonight there was intense debate -- the public money should pay for abortions in the Obama care legislation. Issue is still not -- fine. But there is no question abortion remains very controversial in this country. Enter Abby Johnson the former director planned parenthood and Bryan Texas. Ms. Johnson had a conversion and now believes abortion is wrong so he's speaking out against planned parenthood which is trying to stop her -- yesterday. A judge lifted a temporary gag order on ms. Johnson. Who joins us now from Houston along with Sean Carney national campaign director for forty days for life and anti abortion group -- what what is planned parenthood not. Want you say what it what are they fear."

" I think that they are -- it. That. I am going to continue to speak out and tell people. -- And their business model has changed. And that you know this prevention and that they preach about. Maybe it's not really wide planned parenthood is -- out. And that -- the downward economy they are really trying to increase their abortion numbers because that is the most lucrative part of their business."

" do you do you believe that based upon what you saw Bryan Texas do you believe the planned parenthood is an abortion mill trying to profit off that."

" I'm absolutely will leave that. I saw them trying to increase their abortion I saw an increase their abortion numbers behind yet how do you increase in abortion. Well they increased their accessibility to abortion. For a win and so for instance the clinic that I work Jack. I usually we only did abortions every other Saturday and they said you know what that's not really enough we really need to be able to open this up. -- you allowing women to have abortions almost every day during the week. OK now your conversion. From. Pro abortion. To pro life person how to that. Well actually saw an ultrasound guided abortion procedure which is not very common in large abortion. Facilities like planned parenthood. They're a more lengthy procedure but I did actually get to see an ultrasound guided procedure in what I saw on the screen was. A thirteen week baby. -- fighting for -- life."

" And that. Instantly you said this is wrong I shouldn't be a planned parenthood I should be pro life that happen instantly."

" Well what I what I saw was this baby fighting and I I had flashes in my head of my own daughter. I remember having an ultrasound -- twelve weeks with my own daughter and I just was thinking. What am I doing I was thinking yeah I've never seen this before and -- parent head. Really tries to instill in their employees and that and the women that are coming in for abortions -- this is not a baby. This is just a massive sell as you know don't say baby in the clinic don't say -- to that. Women coming in for an abortion and so you begin to believe you begin to believe that it's not a life."

" Mr. Carney. -- court case that. Temporarily. Prevented -- Johnson from speaking about planned parenthood is pretty intense I mean they went after having pretty hard -- not. They did bill and it shows that this organization ever -- to access particularly from one of their own. That somebody can have a change of heart on this issue. And the judge threw it out because they presented no evidence that she had had a breach of contract. She simply saw a baby fight for its life only obviously lose that -- before her eyes. And she changed her position and she came to forty days for life. And knew that we would be accepting of her we hold vigils across the country for people obviously having abortions but also. That people who work in this industry and she trusted that. She was confident and -- and planned parenthood refuses to accept that."

" Well obviously it's a very emotional issue now in your. Experience. And do you. Demonize women who have abortions mr. Carney do you guys do that kind of stuff -- get. That really makes Americans uncomfortable."

" Right in this is a peaceful effort this is -- there obviously for the women who are going into the -- for abortions -- are also there. For women who work in this industry -- is actually that twenty thing. Abortion clinic worker who is approached -- after -- her clinic was. Of the five of them are -- they let that in history at -- is the only. The -- parenthood director who had a conversion and left her job. But we are there for these workers but as we saw -- persuasion handily -- pro -- have to be there. To support them and quality but it's just -- you -- it's a soft persuasion. Absolutely this is a peaceful leopard it's not violent it's approachable and add -- case proves that because -- the the warmth of the people out there and that's -- he let that industry and have somewhere ago all right. Very juicy story ms. Johnson and -- upon and we appreciate you coming on factor the C."