No Care in Health Care?

" Hello and welcome to freedom watch your daily dose of raw liberty streaming online at foxnews.com. I'm your host judge entered a -- and a here. Defending freedom defending your natural rights and defending your right to have a government that stays within the confines of the constitution. Congress recognizes no limits on its power it doesn't care about the constitution. It doesn't care right here inalienable rights doesn't care about the bill of rights it doesn't even read the bills that writes. If this healthcare bill that was passed by the House of Representatives becomes law life as you have known it. Freedom as you have exercised it and privacy as you have enjoyed it will cease to be. The health care bill at the house passed. Authorizes US attorneys to see jail terms for those who refuse to acquire receive -- purchase health care. The bill actually authorize as the IRS to add to the tax bill of anyone refusing to buy insurance. A 2.5 percent surcharge. On that person's taxes. Whoever refuses to pay the surcharge. Could be indicted for income tax invasion and if convicted. Sentenced to five years in federal prison. That incarceration. Would cross the feds about 50000 dollars a year far more than any health insurance package. Joining me now to discuss all of this is former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson governor welcome back to freedom watch."

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" Governor I know when you're the governor of New Mexico. You were arguably. Of those strongest defender of state sovereignty. And the biggest skeptic of federal power in a state house anywhere in the United States in modern times. What can the states do to stop this steamroller. That is coming their way from the federal government."

" You know law column. At this point I'm not sure what can be done I will tell you that. Medicaid -- breaking. The state. Medicated breaking alt stake this state that the states putting meat has spent. Medicaid dollar Medicare -- more. Broken the federal bank 55 trillion dollars in unfunded. Liability. Out of -- they were going to double the national debt in the next. In the next eight years. This is just something that can't afford it now we're gonna we're gonna -- great -- get. Medicare at one -- got Medicaid on the other end of both of them breaking and breaking the bank. State banks. It'll banks already busted an -- gonna add in the very middle. I. It is straight."

" a lot of people ask me literally. What can be done I mean can the states for example attempt nullification. Could the state of New Mexico if you were still the governor. What the legislature filled with those are respected state sovereignty and individual freedom. Enact legislation that purported to nullify. Federal health care. On the grounds that this has never not authorized by the constitution. Has not only never been regulated by the federal government. But as an area traditionally reserved for state regulations states regulate the practice of medicine to make sure only real doctors are prescribing. It. Cures were there for their patience in 1834. The state of Massachusetts nullified the fugitive slave law. And wouldn't let anybody. Capture runaway slaves and has some mine are nullification that goes on today with respect to medical marijuana and what time zone you're in. But do you think that a state could really say the feds don't try to cross into our borders."

" I think I think it's certainly the case could be made let them would it would be appreciated would -- be understood. And again would be just. Met with. Hostility in and of itself. I think that that in their reality of it happening I don't I don't see it happening. I'm not all health care debate. What I heard which regarded -- debate is. Coverage for everybody and of course say saving a lot of money. I guess on the optimistic side I was looking or savings -- all -- I don't see any. At all in the -- bottom line I think -- would would poll. We -- a result of actually opening up health care remark."

" One of the -- proposals that's been advanced for the Democrats in order to get some of that. Republicans to vote for -- and in the Senate where they can't pass this without some. At least one Republican vote. Is the so called state opt in opt out meaning the legislature of a state. Could vote. Two deny a the obligation. Of people in the state. To comply with this federal statute do you see that happening in any of the more independent minded states like say Idaho. Oh or Montana. Or Alabama or states that take their sovereignty seriously rather than their money from Washington DC."

" You know. I I I certainly appreciate the fact that it could happen. I guess I'm not believing it is going to happen I mean it. I keep seeing it people believe. That this is gonna work some outlet I don't think anybody's -- step up. And -- Step up to do that I don't think any state in that out and do that. And again -- Really -- that. We're just we're just gonna further or break the bank."

" Well is there anything that we can do as you see -- having been a a two term governor of a state where they decidedly and unique libertarian. Freedom loving state sovereignty respecting track record that we can do big picture. About a congress and a federal government that's out of control. I mean Jefferson who said many wonderful things reminded us that if that congress. Can set the limits on its own power. If the congress can decide. What parts of private human behavior it can record it can regulate them there will be no limit. To congress -- regulation are are we doomed to. To a Soviet style central planning or is there anything that we can do other than to vote the bums out of office when -- up for reelection."

" Well I think -- to bomb -- of office. And again. You know judge I'm really excited about the fact that I have formed by 27. Committees that allows me to speak out on issues that -- is just happened. And he. And I would -- it exactly where it is yours congressman out of control I have this healing. Oh look at it. Rather than just that packet not thing and about it and I am. Taking this state something about it but we do need to return to the constitution we do need to return. -- concept. Fifty states to -- laboratories of democracy. I imagine health reform in this country if if these states were to take on all in different ways. And by doing that in the active accounts. Solution but by doing that you would actually have best practice -- it doesn't need it today because the federal government at stake and on the belt. -- all powerful all knowing we know best. We're gonna good -- and in fact that's just not the case and as helpless as it is a panel think anybody should give up. On non. I'm trying to make a difference and yet bottom line vote on top vote everybody."

" While Ronald Reagan as you know was fond of saying in this country can vote with your feet. Meaning if you don't like the laws in New Jersey you can move to New Mexico if you don't like the laws -- Connecticut. You can moved to Texas but as the federal government regulates more and more than. The states or less and less laboratories of democracy and used to be the liberals by the way used to be the left. That like the ideas of the states as laboratories of democracy. As allowing people to do things within those states. That the federal government might not approve of how about in this is an area that you and I and and many people watching us now have a spoken out about. How about a state that decided to decriminalize. Marijuana not just for medicinal purposes. But for private recreational purposes in the home. Do you think that the federal government would still pursuing users and distributors. Of marijuana. With the same zeal. That it now pursues them."

" Well Massachusetts. Went to the old last general election that -- that Obama was. Was elected and voted 65 to thirty but the decriminalized pot in Massachusetts the so that is that are happening now Denver. And -- voted big decriminalize. Marijuana in the city of Denver I'm. Recent poll. Conducted. Gallup poll 53%. Of the population. That that marijuana should be not legalized. 53 to 47 when he got 53% of -- population that says 47 forced out of circulation other go to jail. That's not that's not good lost so I think guys think that worst saying that. That is happening and I think the whole drug issue at all marijuana legalization issue at a tipping point nationally right now."

" And maybe that's the route to more state sovereignty governor Johnson thanks very much for joining us on freedom watch."

" Thank you keep it up thank you."