Krohn to the Bone

" Of wonderful young and Jonathan -- friend mr. -- who has just joined us hi Jonathan how are you. I'm gonna find myself I agree with everything I see you look like you get -- little can even felt this -- I can jump in here but I certainly be a chance to I'm just this morning by Ellis Henican and David Webb of my thinking about -- that's and that I think at that point here in the strategy room. Jonathan -- against her thoughts. It's kind of the next generation. Young Republicans if you will. There are moderates in your party who feel like -- there's no room for them. Where -- they go versus the conservatives like if there apparently with appearing now."

" I think first and foremost there are places for moderates in the party. I mean there are certain places where the republic whether Republican Party has talent open primaries and conservatives have lost and -- to more. And that's fine that's how the party system works. But I don't think we need to alienate either conservatives or moderates from the party if we do that we automatically give -- to the Democrat party that's just how the party system works once again. So he really need to make sure that you don't try to alienate consider Republican Party and the conservative movement within the Republican Party into its own little section. That's not how we need to run things you can not like Lynn and nobody's won a third party you won't some -- but the majority of the individuals. And in a general election cannot win on the third party it needs to be run on a -- a two party system. -- going but make sure that becomes more conservative if -- conserve enough do what you can there are because I'm."

" I would say this having lived in Minnesota you talk about third parties Jesse Ventura -- part of the time that I lived in that stage. Was governor but it didn't translate beyond that Jonathan and I can see exactly if it's a lot of people -- kind of -- it and it's like well that's almost too many choices for that I have a I have a question."

" About that this goes to the point he just made. You mentioned becoming more conservative do you define -- do you split the difference between social conservatism. And all the forms of conservatism."

" Sure I see here's the problem that's common to the Republican Party. You have some people would say there's a pure conservatism. And then there's an island here conservatism. And then there's this -- and if that's not how the Republican Party -- going to be divergent after -- Republican Party. And the conservative movement that's just how it is I -- a different views you have economic conservative view of social conservative view of -- seeing conservatives. You have -- conservative view of neo conservatives you have. -- libertarians. You probably got to bear Republican Party and that's great he -- it diversity and you get divergent aspects in the debate. Let you keep them."

" Just follow me follow the -- that's I think you're actually right about -- no you join me. And saying it's really dull the considers to do things like drive us to go far ballot there -- go light -- light like David. Good to be mean. Congressman I would."

" I don't yeah I'm gonna say. I don't think it's gone to -- was the best choice for the candidate. Because they didn't have an open primary in New York that's just how they did it -- was wrong. And Doug Coffman had a good chance if he had been put up against lots of bobbled an open primary in new York and they didn't do that. -- and let the numbers worry -- wait a minute I -- I'm planning unit that desperately need urgent Doris."

" The numbers involved in -- Hoffman initially before the outside influences came -- gave him seven to 10%. And win this fight started between she. And -- and was way that mold when it came down to the primary is a symbol indicator of the difference in the two. It's Gaza thought the wind Hoffman when she dropped out and often got got the nod to go up in the final run. He did not even have a ground game ready to work in the district this was an outside influence race and this is -- can I."

" you gotta understand. Is that the party had already endorsed -- Obama by the time. Doug -- was making his big pushes I mean he was only 3% behind -- probably Newt Gingrich endorsed her and he said to Doug -- had no chance. I'm a big supporter of the speaker and I think he was right -- moderates in the party we don't need to alienate them. But -- the main problem was it Doug Hoffman had an opportunity. Lies and numerically he actually was pretty close to counsel filed in the long run. I don't think that it isn't -- why do you."

" As usual in the purges and why you drive everyone out who wins and a 100%. Each who team right wing though I really meant -- I. It's -- but let me let me ask for a definite on. -- I never from your from your point of view from your point of veto them. You said. The party needs to be more conservative -- you say more socially conservative former conservative across the board. Because that's a key definition and that's the battling. That's the battle going out of the Republican Party right now where we have Shar-Pei Hannity and Coulter and a number of other people you know public faces of the not in the part of -- London based on these leaders gathered up the party leaders are public faces that speak for a lot of conservatives who -- I -- conservative. Not a Republican and he says it clearly ought to show so what happens perceptual -- across the country and this is what's happening in states like manager okay. If they see conservatives -- social only fashion."

" I think we need to do -- we need to -- winning to a Bob -- didn't Virginia as a party. When he did get to the solutions on the big issues that Americans are very interested and health care economics. Jobs. Those are the big issues that Americans are the most interested in when it comes to the polls ended without. Why didn't you mention health care -- why isn't that the Republicans waited so long to come up with the room who they did. Well -- had. Eight pills before Nancy Pelosi came out with 8096 -- others. Eight other -- I asked -- to get -- defense and then my next question is whether public relations on -- If you know if I can't think 1100 Adam how come people that don't know about now how secure the mainstream media -- yeah. Media. Sure I -- all over in certain areas if you had to go look -- because the mainstream media wasn't very interested. In talking about Republicans don't president."

" John another here's the reality the Republicans and you understand this I think David thinks this is smart politics but have have fashioned themselves as the party you know right. Barack Obama was elected to do some stuff."

" Motivated it -- police."

" Obama was elected guys could do some things I think you local approval of those things -- like those things."

" But when he starts doing them if only answer from Republicans is no no no not a single vote for the stimulus not a single loafer for health care. -- battle back you know that's not a good -- emblematic."

" Has -- something that's very important in this though. If the answer the correct answer is no it is the right answer now to there are always good we should -- Heather's question I mean to. -- is going to -- to Harris his question. About -- them on the republic. Took to the Republican PR machine it failed miserably. The Republicans have had a horrible. PR machine I said -- you've heard me say it in this in this studio and before over the past year. If the Republicans put the bill put it out to the public if you can't get it through the committee in the house put out publicly say this is our solution. They have failed miserably do all right so how is that going to change going forward and you see it. And while it it needs to change -- I think slowly but surely we're seeing correct yeah."

" Are you see -- the GO KK -- Pelosi has said we were all waiting to see that the house version of the bill before it went for a vote. Remember what the president promised us the -- sending -- house. She said no way or even if it's happening to our through this is a chance for the GOP to stand up and say yeah there's something -- speaker of the house won't do we're gonna show you what we got and let that be word of mouth."

" Well I I think fit -- GOP trying to do that I mean like my friend and fellow Georgian representative Tom price. He came out with that -- an amazing bill a long time ago in opposition to the original HR 3200. But what happened was. Is when he tried to go on other opposing news media such as NBC CBS and ABC he would not get in the same air time that the the big. Democrat -- was given so. I think that the problem is -- it."

" Born and it -- of the bill. Not if you're our guy out of a lot on the wing and you think we should devote half the median of."

" No I don't think so I just think that. It needs it or going to give an odd for going to claim it's are especially if the mainstream -- gonna -- that from non bias it needs to give. Equal all it needs to get some opportunity. To the opposition and there were eight bills you can have all the bills on -- if you want creeping -- whichever one you -- but couldn't but the mainstream media -- a horrible job of applying those. -- would have of the Republican Party and they did every time I heard Tom price. Are given the -- or any conservative or any Republican and gone on the on the air on one of the Sunday shows saying that to say we have alternatives. But the problem was as they they did the media didn't really give them."

" Chance. Flickr -- doesn't -- that for the longest time the Democrats didn't have a billionaire. So I thought bias when I would watch -- just kind of a hometown player occasionally even though I work in news I do still -- you are. I think -- I think we'll have a built right now this is earlier this summer and the power bill was the thinking it without -- and it wasn't being talked about again I have my question to see if maybe PR -- the difficulty government bond. Will quickly if we can talk road ahead in the Senate for health care bill what do you think is gonna happen next with the health care bill -- and."

" Well I think it's going to be hard it depends it all dependable people like Joe Lieberman have the deciding vote in this bill in the Senate. What he does end and it's Olympia -- and some of the more -- moderate Republicans actually end up. Jumping ship if they do within it looks like that it looks like the bill will pass in the united in the it looks like the Senate -- in the Senate version will pass in the United States senate. However you've also got a couple of moderate Democrats here in there and you've got the independents like Joe Lieberman are -- independent minded as well. Who. Have not truly committed either way. There's going to be a couple there's going to be a few weeks I -- before the Senate actually I think will go for its own vote. And it's going to be used primarily I think for arm twisting in the offices of Harry Reid and the Oval Office itself. So what we can see it looks right now -- it's going to be a tough bill I don't think the Democrat to get the sixty votes. I think that a filibuster -- most likely will occur. But the question is how long Republicans can hold out."

" I Terry will pass writing this email. Not for the American people they are not doing health care on behalf of the American people they are doing it for their own political power and control in the united citizens. Thank you very much for your email -- and read the whole -- has -- a -- but I wanted to Democrats have been in there. Jonathan how the book coming."

" I just finished for the -- it comes out -- stores February 23 and the title. Defining conservatism the principles that we'll take our country back. And it can be -- it can be ordered on Amazon Barnes & Noble borders books a million. And just make a point in my book I really don't try to focus on one divergent aspect -- conservatism. My goal in the book is to focus on basic philosophy that -- unites the conservative movement. And -- being able to use that to create solutions. And that's how Bob McDonnell one of Virginia and that's how Chris Christie won in New Jersey. Because people are tired of hearing simple ideology is coming out and that's all that you talk about you can't do that. You can't win on that. People want working solutions. Bob McDonnell campaign on solutions. It'll bring back jobs. -- cutting taxes on balancing the budget and Chris Christie campaigned on lowering taxes and has saying how the Democrats and Jon Corzine hadn't done that in Virginia when they promise to lower property taxes. So I think of what the Republican Party has -- is -- as has started to a great job this year. It during the -- during the Tuesday elections. I think what they did a great job of doing is they campaigned on that new GOP PR machine if you -- use that example it created a new kind of campaign for the Republican Party to embrace. Where we campaign on the solutions and used that as our basic idea for the Republican Party."

" Interestingly Tuesday I was actually in Charlottesville Virginia the weekend before the elections that just you know what 48 hours before everybody went to vote."

" And I saw -- distinctive collision of and the ads on television their locally. And -- you know. Aside from all of the political things you just said one thing that really stuck out. In my mind about the Bob McDonald adds versus regained the Democrat in the race was that they were. We're not in very positive that almost motivation yeah I mean -- is exactly and and it wasn't so much what all the political -- wasn't is that they made to feel good when you're and that's interesting point if if the Republican Party and if that's the new PR. That that's right that becomes the good -- Leyland I have to --"

" Right that is in the moderate argument -- made -- very and the problem is that -- conflicts with all the things going on in the party the driving should -- mountain. -- and -- and we've got. Yeah. -- encouraging to me -- and it's I mean you'll talk moderation but then you go around."

" I don't stayed on point when he has -- point you're you're good at that -- yeah so most guys that are good at it look. Want to try to drive the argument back to what fits in the Huffington Post world of the daily -- world of driving moderates out the fanning. -- Harris brought up the point of Virginia versus New Jersey. In Virginia you have -- mintel I cultural and tell it's a little different they tied closely to Washington DC. A referendum on the incumbent was more for referendum on. What the Democrats have -- whole. And what great -- couldn't do. In New Jersey was a clear referendum on -- which -- and then some twenty points yeah to have somebody who's been involved in campaigns against Corzine since two. Six a more aware of this than three BI. Say this because I live in New Jersey I would say it is too thin people kind of understanding Saddam the independents really pulled John -- lot of Democrats who voted against John -- what in your motor voter. Reg guide -- story and hasn't been coming up you talk hey. Yeah yeah yeah. You guys want to lose drive the moderate you -- human. I knew I -- he might not know that hello Eric I don't hear that the -- an -- Jonathan Jonathan paperwork -- a signal to -- to finish terrorism clearly here but this is important. If you look at the key break outs in New Jersey then the Democrats didn't turn out in areas like Camden county New York -- six cal IQ there is. It was a referendum on the incumbent where Democrats stayed home in Hudson County but. And whereas for any other at some voted no way look at the Agassi -- going to end Chris jagged wound up 5% of the votes in the end couldn't figure out due to be easier but he didn't have much of an effect as the men that we're just. The independent -- that we're shifting to -- shifted back and again. 39 plus 250% of -- going to Kristy and -- the OK Jonathan your."

" Yeah I just make a point here. I think fit in in response to our friend over there who's saying that we want to drive the moderates out. I I you have to understand anybody in the party that wants to win and I agree you have to understand. Fit the majority of Americans are not conservatives there's forty -- not vote -- recent Gallup poll -- only 40% of conservatives. And that they're more in -- there are even more independents than there are liberals. So whoever wins of the independence wins the election and the -- it but the -- it we did that."

" Virginia and New Jersey and other the other very different Jersey once again like are liking that and I'm a woman have to stop because we're gonna -- off the -- the satellite's gonna drop and I don't wanna haven't happened when you're in the middle of your sentence because I wanna be able to say thank you. And how much we adore you we want to have you back thank you so much Jonathan Cronin -- fourteen. I -- I'll be turning fifteen in March and it's another day I don't let yours I don't celebrate mine anymore. I don't know I think we'll see you next time all right --"