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Published: Wed, 11 Nov 2009
Description: Ask Dr. Manny Show: Millions of Americans suffer from chronic pain. But before you pop another pill - check out these natural remedies that will knock out that pain
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" From music to magnets to acupuncture get ready to step away. From the conventional world of medicine and into the land of alternatives welcome to ask dot demanding. When I went to medical school alternative remedies were not a common practice even though some have been around for more than 5000. Years. We would talk about the power of pharmaceuticals on the success of surgeries today those treatments are still the most prominent but times have changed. Some holistic cures are now at the forefront of medicine and these natural painkillers are available from pet. To tell."
" What looks like a high tech experimental. Is actually doctors tapping into Jennifer fox is brain waves to help her get rid of her migraine headaches it's pretty."
" You're just done for the day."
" The 25 year old began suffering from migraine headaches in middle school. After trying numerous medications many of which made her headaches worse Jennifer decided to try another approach bring music therapy."
" Okay this -- thing and what cast -- digitally. Within a couple. Very complex -- it him into musical sequences. Pretzel advocate for the peace excuse I hit personalized. Musical. --"
" Every patient will get his or her own music recording based on their brain waves to personalize musical pieces are created. That to Midland says it is 8285%. Successful. There are no side effects and it sounds like a piano."
" Listen to it -- through. Everything before then after the first few weeks I've started to notice it I was responding right now I really don't get any migraine headaches -- get. Maybe it's sinus -- that you that can be environmental or something like that but I'm reminding us."
" You can't yet but it comes you back acupuncture has been the pain killing king. But in the alternative world. Acupuncture has become fairly mainstream. Some insurance companies even cover it but the newest wrinkle copying is not. This suction device creates a vacuum inside each couple. The cubs are then placed in various acupuncture points on the body and either -- still or moved around the skin in massage like motion."
" After my first visit. That was the first night I slept pain free. And in that little bit of -- to come back again after my my third visit now I've had no pay. Yeah."
" Tapping -- on certain pressure points in the body is also creating a buzz. It's -- emotional freedom techniques or EFTs."
" There are circuits in our body. Where electricity. Is passing along and traveling and that's what we're doing work cleaning out. This system might do -- so we don't use needles we call psychological depression."
" diesel for -- addictions phobias and other ailments. If you think it looks strange so did Carol look but concerns over aesthetics went out the window. Which started using it on patients."
" Client after client said how. I feel better my body feels more relax my neck is an associate. I don't feel like having a cigarette with -- issue."
" Obsession with the hand held devices. Has generated a new chronic pain problem. Blackberry. It normally is seen here. It's going the."
" I can barely move -- found nothing happens -- something about immediately."
" Unwilling to under the knife. David went to see doctor Steven -- who offered up -- less invasive procedure."
" I want policies nonsurgical approaches one of the ones I use a lot for Blackburn come -- Carpal Tunnel Syndrome would be aggressive technique which is a -- special technique. Which helps to smooth out the muscle and take out those fibers adhesion to build up overtime and restrict commotion in their -- hand wrist and elbow."
" Dot Fisher shot it also uses a low intensity call laser therapy. --"
" It's basically non invasive light that helped bring down inflammation. Increase the range of motion. And reduce the pain Nicole Lazard draws fresh blood to the area. Speeding the healing process. Patients usually feel results after just a few visits."
" We take thousands of steps every day and all that walking can take its toll on October 6. Studies have shown that using magnets. And increased bone healing and decrease inflammation and pain."
" The very strange sort of feeling -- sort of this. Tap tap tap tap tap on your you can feel it in your tissue and and it goes towards sort of the damaged part of the joint."
" Pulsed electromagnetic therapy is not FDA approved yet but patients are praising this method. After just a few sessions it felt. Soft -- and little bit more flexible. I actually try magnetic therapy to and it can be used in other parts of the body. But it may my tired feet feel a little bit better when we return to medicine hunter is fresh from his latest adventure. And ready to tell us which foods and -- will kill your pain naturally. Welcome back US got demand. We have shown some alternative therapies that can knock out paint. But there -- foods and herbs that can do the same thing naturally join me now is Chris Killen. Better known as the medicine hunter Chris we served as natural remedies bowl with the who are all. Hiker is any idea what you'll be -- you and your herbs. You know it more as good you got that hey I get herbs you know there. Listen we would talk about alternative to talk about food and herbs and I know you brought a whole bunch of things who that have a lot to do with painful right okay. Right well let's. I think the first question I want answered is a lot of folks asked you this. Why why is it that these things help with pain well some plants contain."
" Anti inflammatory. Compounds. Many of the antioxidants were familiar with the you know reducing oxidation in the body. Many of those compounds are also anti inflammatory. So they actually work. In the body like the anti inflammatory drugs they suppress the Cox two enzyme which is your big in -- nation enzyme. And so that helps to relieve pain and bomb in fairness. Most don't do with as quickly or aggressively as the drugstore business popping a -- yeah but but they can do it. Pretty quickly and very well."
" So the mechanism is almost the same same neck as we that when we take it well we find some on the natural. Product okay let's go through the less. I see my favorite ginger root ginger yes ginger root you know you don't wanna taste every single one but I would hope. All right ginger root he would go spicy. And I don't get -- right there and I'll get you to be done unplug -- debate about. Cool and yachts -- bravery. Democrat."
" Only. I remember this -- me talk about that. Yeah. I was -- you're paying coming on it contains these compounds called. Ginger Rawls and show golf and -- their antioxidant but there were also powerfully anti inflammatory. If you get if you got like inflammation if you got joint pain on special course sore throat too which is an acute inflammation. You make a ginger root he. About he's the size of a -- graded up make -- out of it drink it that'll help to reduce that pain and inflammation and especially in the case of sore throat. There's nothing like injury all right well we got that. And -- Which is despise -- the yellow bicycle -- among implement and use -- you know. But we have this fracturing number at that herb store while back. Okay not too bad now. Tumor is one of the most powerful is like in -- cemetery not well okay. But you know. It's good actor. Good really good that of the -- most powerful anti inflammatory plants and all of nature it's got a group of compounds called the -- humanoid. And the bottom line is that there quite concentrated in this route. They significantly reduce inflammation. So if you got a good high intake of let's say yellow curry on a regular basis. Or if you just cook with two -- in soups stews veggies fish whatever. You can help to reduce an inflammation and cooking it does not degrade the enzyme properties it doesn't you know some compounds like vitamin C year reduce flight with heat. Some compounds have very stapled the -- humanoid. You good -- for days they're not going to be received. The next thing is if I don't know. Cat's claw out -- that's this vicious looking stuff here. Cat's claw is the bark of mine from the Amazon. And cats claw is actually you know it's it's pharmaceutical drug and Austria for the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis the stuff -- Here help buddy give me is some Frank Sinatra. -- it didn't fit it isn't bring my way my way. Only time. It's got -- Smells terrible. It's -- it should it's a part of it was the cordless bodies -- again maybe process would. Cap squat is a very significant. Anti inflammatory and I use it to relieve pain from old injuries that I use it regularly so that if you have a headache give you have joint pain in the headless. -- actually like joint pain and you can get -- caught in fairness people don't have to drink it but this is an extract I have a home but you can get cat's claw and capsules now this comes the liquid form a did you put some powder and -- This is a liquid extract may inform me but you can also get it in capsules if you just don't wanna deal with the taste it and natural food stores places like all foods right you can get -- extract. Okay so that's that ginger yeah now the this. I'd put in my lamb chops all the time Rosemary. Rosemary. Profound antioxidant properties very significant anti inflammatory activity usually people don't -- Eat enough Rosemary to get the real engines went -- that really hard. -- Blended up and put it in different recipes and you'll get more of the anti inflammatory power. Oh and and done National Institutes of Health has been doing a lot of research into the end -- and -- to -- and salads. Sure you can. -- vinegar chop it up really finally put in an vinaigrette it's good stuff. All right yeah and this has properties also ziglar you the theme all -- which are antioxidants are also very significantly anti inflammatory. So good pain relievers as well. All right. We have a juice yet now the -- this is black current views and the good thing about this it tastes delicious. The purple pigments the stuff that you get in blueberry elder berry blackberries. They are. Significantly. Anti inflammatory. What this will not do if you've got like. Pain in your joints it's not gonna -- and half hour and but if you have a daily intake of these purple antioxidant. It'll reduce the overall. Inflammation if you experience high in calories. No no -- here. It's got some it's got some sugar and it sure but. Actually good -- of stuff they blocked it makes an excellent actually even have black current vodka so they go safe right and I was gonna coined phrase. Now bad but so you have if you have these hand high antioxidant fruit and a regular basis. You're likely to experience less inflammation. So it's not so much oh gosh I'm in pain I'll drink a glass of black courage but just overall as a dietary recommendation. Now you have a whole bunch of the -- some capsules I -- yeah let's do animal. Begin buying my. One of my great favorites tiger bomb. It's your classic men fall. You don't think -- and that's more up here. Those creams really you know their pain -- they're more like psychologically I think you know. When I have really sore muscles and I put on tiger -- I get great really. There's this this is like the Tabasco sauce of pain relievers I see it every now and has capsaicin -- it has. Let's see what does this have been that it's actually got -- for and then falling on the two primary -- classic. Class leaving age they have. Stuff works stuffs works great art and then you have -- greens there -- got. Capsaicin cream you know capsaicin cream that's hot peppers hot pepper you taught me that. Well they go yet but you knew that anyway doctors recommend capsaicin. For arthritis. Pain and the crazy thing is. One quarter of 1%. Of this that saw his capsaicin all the rest is just inner cream. It's sufficient enough that like you need a pain in your joints you put in on relieved that pay them from. Got an encapsulated. Product here called -- and super concentrated. In into work especially. I is that for pain relief for old injuries. I'd say it works about 75%. Good stuff it."
" But let me ask you one last question -- can you be mixing all of this let's see if you know you UK it is just too much just like you can have broccoli and asparagus thing Leo okay you can have ginger and -- American Rosemary. And all of these things in your diet on a regular basis. Hippocrates said let your food be OK. That's very good I know. Now what to do. If I want some natural remedies from the start adding some of this. -- and I like I have seen some studies on this particular its viewers. Europe and that he. The negative -- to get it pretty quick -- all right Chris thank you so much for joining us live -- you are the man thank you fair -- more adventures out there in the world. And how well what what cures are coming up with. You can check out the medicine hunt does blog got Fox's -- dot com and coming up next we run down the latest headlines -- are very don't -- samaritan who. -- I put my vocal chords to good use with a very special little girl it's a mostly a lot many close ones and a at. -- Welcome back to ask about the many and welcome back my partner in crime the lovely -- this in the record here to sort through the medical studies. Making the headlines -- got to see as a man I love the purple pants fall you know I don't wear a purple -- I have."
" Have anyway got titans producers. Yeah."
" We have a lot of headlines you know -- show is all about alternative that are."
" These and -- control of things like that so I wanted to kind of focus on the first studies that we gonna look at this new one that talks about children. And we experienced frequent I guess the stomach aches. And how they can actually improve their pain by using their imagination tell me about this thing."
" Is this is a great say that's coming out of an end in the November issue of pediatrics and basically it looked at 34 participants that -- between the ages of six to fifteen years old. His suffer from functional abdominal pain what is that that's the type of persistent abdominal pain they don't really have a cause for and generally cancels grow out of it and -- teenage years it was."
" This is an elegant and associated with the disease right or or icon GI abnormalities on that by some frequent and stomach belly aches but really of no no source --"
" And what they did is they had nineteen of these 34 participants. As that not only undergo standard therapy. But also to undergo this guided imagery therapy which is very similar to self hypnosis. But they basically did is they want them to imagine themselves. It's as serious something that would whoever produce less pain would stop them from developing the pain for example one of the things that they would have been too. Is bound pretend that they had a match that they have a shiny object in their hand that melted and they put it against their Bally's. And the lights in the warm to of this object. What basically protect anything from coming in and hurting their -- it was like it's almost like meditation for kids exactly exactly and they did it twice a week for twenty minutes of every day for ten minutes and they actually found that the kids that we're doing -- guided imagery therapy. I actually had three times more chance of having improvement in the abdominal pain in the kids that didn't possession very good technique and I sometimes have my patients -- this as well at night. My post surgical patients as well as sort of get them to try to imagine where the pain is last whether heal the scars of decrees that and that seems to work."
" My only criticism of the study is that it's very small 34 pay very soft and you know. I I get I get this it's good thing for -- All right let's look at the next one which is a hotly debated issue. No no matter how you slice it in there and has a lot to do with. The topic that we've been talking for now weeks. Here's united. Childhood vaccinations. I -- we talk about the swine flu and everything else so. What do you think about this study that came out that looked at. Fever lowering medications. Can actually lower. The immunity from vaccines in children."
" Right this is the one of the first major studies that's come out that's actually shown that there was a reduction in the immune response for kids that receive tunnel if you like some parents are. Mothers fathers -- take their kids for their shots their regular childhood vaccinations were talking about calling him on some means of -- You know tuberculosis whatever their their regular vaccination shots back. Meningitis. And these that they'll sometimes given Tylenol either just before they go on for their vaccination right of the -- that they get their vaccination. In the hopes of reducing their fever respond."
" Before they even get so I think so yeah. Kind of prophylactic. You don't take kids you gonna go get the shot an hour -- wanna give you some. Let's say hi Tyler alike medicine right and this way you know if you get a little grade fever or discomfort in your -- it's not gonna be as."
" Matt -- they'll be less fussy and everything else and and that the bottom line is is that. This is. It it actually was shown in the study that it did actually reduce the immune response that the kids had -- that was when they took the Tylenol is the -- as opposed the kids that didn't take the time what would be the mechanism. To -- why why would tie -- I think is mechanisms that blood to your fever response you know we get a vaccination of some of -- warn people that have been talking about with H1N1 vaccination you may get a little creature you have to risk. And that's your body's natural response to developing antibodies. Against this -- so what it's doing is it's sort of inhibiting that fever response which is actually had a good thing and it's controlled. And when it's limited so to speak. So the CDC actually advocates for kids that are high risk groups for developing seizures. Actually have the tunnel prior because fever can sometimes trigger seizure activity in children. But some -- think it given from the results from this study. Although their response is not adequate it is reduced so if you can avoid giving him a -- and I'll go ahead and do it. -- unless they're high risk procedures."
" All right over the past couple of years robotics surgery has been becoming very popular option. When he comes to prosthetic cancer prostate cancer. It's a less invasive approaches seems to reduce his side effects that you get. But a new studies as. Maybe not so because maybe. Issues of incontinence. And erectile dysfunction. Are greater. In now and robotic. Surgery for prostate --"
" So Ryan this is a major study huge say they came out of the journal of the American Medical Association. -- look at -- 9000 participants between the years of 2003 and 2007. The whole basis of the study anyway just to says that the background for is that. There yet that the question is should patience if they've been diagnosed with prostate cancer especially early stage. Should they undergo surgery which has the consequence of erectile dysfunction or incontinence. Or can't we just as radiation alone sufficient. Or just watchful waiting and if there's any change in the prostate -- pushing toward the surgery. So that's still the question that's out there should patients be undergoing surgery at what stage of the -- and -- us."
" Well this so this they really doesn't deal with the ultimate question of what's the best treatment. For prostate cancer righted the exact doesn't have much -- what that it really don't have a defense that out yourself and talk to multiple specialists."
" Right and it is really looked at whether or not robotic surgery. -- it up the traditional open surgical procedure for removing the prostate is is the best one and there's also a little bit surprising especially those that are doing prostate. Robotic prostate surgery. And what they did is they looked at the participants 1900 of them had undergone robotics surgery. And of those people -- they did say in the hospital one day last they did receive less transfusions they did have less internal scarring. But on the other hand. They have if they are more likely to complain to complain of incontinence or erectile dysfunction within thirty days of surgery as opposed to the open surgical procedure. And the difference was 5% of patients with robotic surgery first is that 2% with the open surgical --"
" That's what would you tell me let's say I god forbid develop prostate cancer you my partner in crime has said so myself at the beginning of the show. And I wanted to have surgery because I didn't wanna keep -- what would you tell me to do."
" If you going to have surgery and I'd like to have surgery doctors say I would say really talk to the surgeon in the other urologist is going to be doing the search and because I think any -- doctor some ideas part of our eighteen hair and and this is his specialty. And he really feels like the one thing about the study is that it was really done during the learning curve. -- surgeons when they were just learning this robotic surgeries and you feel that the numbers are not really fair -- of a concern about the validity of questionnaires that they sent patients. So the bottom line is is that talk to -- urologist if you have a urologist has a lot of experience with robotic surgery. And they had good success with it probably their bottom surgery is a better way to go. And I know on back to some money Kansas he says his his patients have -- and I tell dysfunction and incontinence and those have open surgery."
" I I totally agree a mean this is not the first time that we have seen a study that goes retrospectively. And looks at you know the number of years and a lot of patience. About a new procedure per say. And that's exactly right when you have a surgical. You know surgical technique. That is being analyzed that learning curve I mean I did it when I was doing certain things for obstetrics there's a learning curve. What are you gonna get more complications and if you include the data yet it's going to be skewed way but -- get -- all right so I'm gonna have the -- of the prostate surgery -- some. We gave you need another reason to indulge eight and one of my favorite guilty pleasures. Here it is chocolate. To -- actually ease pain researchers saying that chocolate. Me I'm."
" But I I just hey Chris I I had Chris and I notice -- he made me drink some some. You know here and I'm still chewing on my ginger root here. He didn't bring any chocolate but kind of Chris I talked with us against Dan Bailey -- this -- might be good for pain."
" This is coming out of the journal of neuroscience and what they did is they fed rats. All have Iraq study. Out -- a -- is gonna like the chocolate it is gonna do anything you want a close look at the chocolate and assuming either -- and anyway they fed the rats. That would either chocolate chip or they gave him a drink of water. And in both groups actually they had a blunted affect a pain and both groups actually -- my. But you know supposedly in humans if you drink water before -- you're gonna feel more full and you and you eat less but needless to say but they've found is that. Eating basically just lines the part of the brain that causes pain or that you feel pain and sense -- and actually helps you to an actual causes you to eat more. So the bottom line is is that we probably should not be advocating this study too much is the last thing we need is an advocate eating chocolate just have way."
" I don't don't take three -- and call me in the morning that kind of -- Well into -- to -- them a little chocolate one you know how much I love that little chocolate ones who was good for the heart and also this there. Anyway as always doctor -- thank you so much for joining us who have the greatest thank you for all the good tips. I'm coming up a very. Soulful many -- one that's guaranteed to make its."
" A British university study found listening to your favorite music helps ease pain. Researchers tested a patient's ability to tolerate pain when listening to pillows and it turned out the patient could endure more. So for this week's many plus one I wanted to see for myself. I visited the Elizabeth Seton pediatric center in New York City and that have very special girl. Stephanie they tell me who like music is that rule one."
" My first impression of ten year old Stephanie your -- she's a child of few words that is until we started singing."
" Yeah that's I. Stephanie was born with -- bit thinner and now formation the spinal column. That often causes severe nerve damage and infection she has spent most of her alive at the Elizabeth Seton pediatric center in New York City. Because she needed so many surgeries after birth. The hospital staff says they use music therapy as a treatment to elevate moods and ease pain."
" a lot of times we -- clapping and smiling. And -- even just opening their eyes are turning their head which. It may not be realized France and someone who isn't train that -- that is a really strong response to that child maybe doesn't do that any other time we do when they're hearing. Music."
" And -- matches does not have a medical degree or a stethoscope that he's helping -- the sake. One song at a time."
" Lillian. I hit it okay. Imagine back."
" Musicians who -- now we're doing is we're bringing. Our joy of playing music and connecting with the patience to."
" Giving -- child I heard her singing there are lots of different things or listening. Asking for music unlock different assets for David -- getting a blood drug getting whatever medical service that that she had to get through."
" After playing a concert at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in 1999. Candidly and another musician realize that powerful affect their music had on the patients they formed a nonprofit musicians on call. And started performing at patients bets."
" patients stop. Worrying and winds that may be stopped wearing for a little bit stop thinking about what specific problems I've been going on like console and his twin brother Jose."
" Many children at the hospital are non verbal so the roving musicians are allowing them the opportunity to communicate in another way -- that's actually now its tenth year musicians on coal is 300 volunteers strong. And it's -- with some of music's biggest names levels. -- are sold to bring the gift of song to hospitals in New York City Philadelphia and Nashville and Miami."
" We have the need all the time in all of our cities for volunteers so if you're a musician you can. You can volunteered to play in a hospital. If you're not a musician you can volunteered to guide you can take a musician from room to room and and represented musicians on call."
" And little and then at that name -- it back yeah."
" Blue okay. Yeah."
" Music can truly make a difference. Because as one famous poet once wrote it washes away from the -- the dust of everyday life. There's no doubt in my mind music has healing powers in fact we showed you several alternative therapies here today. But I have to give you one big word of advice please please talk to your doctor before trying any of them. What works for one person may not work for someone else. And you must make sure these are -- are safe and right for you. As always check out our website fox -- health dot com for more on today's topic that's all for now thank you so much for joining us on documenting Albers until next time. Well I'll still be documented that you might be a little bit healthier."
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